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Old 09-14-2003, 02:32 PM
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I'm very car stupid... or should I say engine stupid, that's why I read alot more than I post.
I have, I'm sure the dumb question of the week so please go easy on me.

I know the TSX is awesome and pretty quick but how would it compare to a Jetta VR6?
A buddy of mine has one, on a stick , my TSX is 5AT and I was just wondering if I had any argument to run my mouth and bust his cajones?

If we were to go against each other what would the most likely outcome be?
Old 09-14-2003, 04:32 PM
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He'll probably win. Unless he sucks at driving stick. Sorry.
Old 09-14-2003, 09:21 PM
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Originally posted by ClutchPerformer
He'll probably win. Unless he sucks at driving stick. Sorry.
Unless his wheels fall off, or engine fails, which is a possibility.

On second thought, the VR6 engine avoids that engine coil recall VW had, so you'd be stuck hoping his wheels fall off.
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Vr6 has same HP but significantly higher torque than the TSX, you'll probably get burned. But if the Jetta is an older one(2001 and older I believe)with the 176hp VR6 you can probably take him.
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Actually, a 60 year old woman driving a V6 AT Carmy would kill you... There is much more to the TSX other than the off the line acceleration.

Just wait until he start having some reliability problems with his VW.

I actually like the Jetta VR6 but I would not even consider one.

-There are too many Jettas on the road for now.
-The shifter is not even close to the TSX's.
-VW parts are much more expensive
-The shape of the car is not to my taste

The Jetta has some good qualities but I haven't seen any car magazines rating the Jetta at the top of their comparos lately.

Just my 2 cents
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You'll definitely get burned off the line by a VR6...it has more torque and at a very low rpm.
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Originally posted by lgregoir

The Jetta has some good qualities but I haven't seen any car magazines rating the Jetta at the top of their comparos lately.

Just my 2 cents
I think Edmunds.com had it at or near the top of a "econosport sedan" comparison test not too long ago.
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Ok so I would get burned off the line...... What about highway speeds. Say we were to drive side by side and decide to put em hammer down, would I be able to pull away from him?
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Originally posted by sheik28
Ok so I would get burned off the line...... What about highway speeds. Say we were to drive side by side and decide to put em hammer down, would I be able to pull away from him?
If he's the 200hp VR6, then again, no. Your only chance to win him is when the road gets twisty. Jetta is soft even with the optional sport pkg, and the car understeers worse than TSX.
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Originally posted by lgregoir
Actually, a 60 year old woman driving a V6 AT Carmy would kill you... There is much more to the TSX other than the off the line acceleration.
hahahaha. why are all these people coming on lately comparing the TSX in racing? The TSX isnt a race car, its not fast. But its a damn good looking car and its very nice for the price!
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Originally posted by lgregoir
Actually, a 60 year old woman driving a V6 AT Carmy would kill you...


I thought I'd challenge that statement but you were proved right. A 2002 Camry SE AT with 192HP does 0-60 in 8.0 sec and the 1/4 mile in 16.1.

Note to Self: Stay away from 60 year olds driving AT V6 Camry's
Old 09-15-2003, 12:05 PM
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Originally posted by jcg878
I think Edmunds.com had it at or near the top of a "econosport sedan" comparison test not too long ago.
I wouldn't call a VR6 Jetta econo-anything. Those things are like $27K when equipped with leather and other goodies, and surelly no less than $23K even on the base. Just because it rides like a $17K car doesn't mean it costs that much.
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Originally posted by lgregoir
Actually, a 60 year old woman driving a V6 AT Carmy would kill you...
Add an Odyssey (2002 or later) to the must-avoid list. According to Edmund's , it does 0 -- 60 in 7.9 seconds.
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Originally posted by dnb
Add an Odyssey (2002 or later) to the must-avoid list. According to Edmund's , it does 0 -- 60 in 7.9 seconds.
Yea... and especially the lighter-weight LX ones... they'll sneak up on ya.
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Originally posted by dnb
Add an Odyssey (2002 or later) to the must-avoid list. According to Edmund's , it does 0 -- 60 in 7.9 seconds.
Dude your depressing me, please stop. Your telling me a Honda Odyseey driven by a 45 year old woman with 6 kids can take my Auto TSX??? Whats next? The new automatic kia subcompact does 0-60 in 7.8???

(Insert pic of me hanging myself here )


I need 25 more horses bad...........
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See this is why I bought the 6MT!
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Originally posted by fdl
See this is why I bought the 6MT!
I tried to convince my wife to learn stick but she would'nt have any of it.

But I'll still take the ease of the auto and the sometimes fun of the SS over the extra speed of the 6MT in a heartbeat now that I've gotten use to the Auto.
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Originally posted by domn
Dude your depressing me, please stop. Your telling me a Honda Odyseey driven by a 45 year old woman with 6 kids can take my Auto TSX???
It's probably best to stay away from these minivans and SUVs. Even the "take 'em in the twisties" approach won't work --- if you're neck-and-neck at the first turn you will get broadsided.

Actually, I think we're fortunate to be in the midst of a horsepower war. The TL, Accord, Maxima, etc. are putting out hp numbers for midsize sedans that would've been unheard of a few years ago.

Whats next? The new automatic kia subcompact does 0-60 in 7.8???
It could happen. Here's a Neon that did a 13.82 @ 102 quarter-mile.
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Its funny, I was heavily leaning towards the Accord EX V6 before I bought the TSX simply because I thought staraight line acceleration what was I wanted most.

I'm now having more and more fun with the TSX's handling characteristics everday. Its simply a fun car to drive, which the 240 HP Accord is not. I think the same can be said for alot of those cars in the "HP Wars" IE Maxima, Grand Prix. HP is'nt everything and I thought I would never say that.
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