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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 06:35 PM
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Angry Outta control gas prices

I just filled up, and it was $2.09 a gallon for premium (Suburban NYC area) i was wondering what everyone was paying per gallon???
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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 07:08 PM
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its around 1.70 to 1.80 here in houston! btw...i got 27 mpg on my way home from dallas to houston!
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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 07:27 PM
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$2.229 for 93 octane Sunoco on the NY Thruway last week, an all-time high!

$1.969 for 94 octane Sunoco today, suburban NJ.

Now aren't you happy you bought the 4-banger TSX instead of that Humvee?
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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 08:34 PM
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Lowest price I've seen locally is $2.23/gal. for 91 octane at two local ARCO stations. The news reported that the wholesale price of gas dropped about 30 cents/gal. from a couple of weeks ago and that the price of gas would soon follow. Yeah Right. It's dropped 3 cents from two weeks ago. the oil companies.
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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 08:40 PM
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in IL 93 Octane is about $1.91
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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 11:29 PM
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Hmm..cheap for you. I just filled up today, running out of gas so I pulled into a fancy Chevron station for a fill-up of 91 octane..at $2.39. I live around Los Angeles area.
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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 11:36 PM
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$1.80/93 Octane

1 good thing about VA, one of the lowest gas taxes
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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 11:44 PM
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You guys shouldnt complain. In europe its more than that per litre! Gas is still a very very cheap fuel source. Its cheaper than water (bottled anyways).
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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 11:44 PM
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Last time I filled up it was 2.29 a gallon in San Jose, CA. Unfortunately us in the Bay Area are usually among the highest prices in the nation.

Here is a cool site showing different prices in our area. 2.49 a gallon looks the highest as of right now.

http://www.sanfrangasprices.com/
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 12:32 AM
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$2.299 at the Fremont & Wolfe 76 in Sunnyvale on 3/2
$2.279 at the Fremont & Wolfe 76 in Sunnyvale on 3/12

So maybe it's coming down.
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 01:53 AM
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$2.019/gal at Blain, WA
$2.039/gal at Burlington, WA
$2.099/gal at Bellevue, WA

All Chevron, all 92 octane. ARCO is about 2 cents cheaper overall.
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 02:08 AM
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$2.319 at the 76 station here in North San Diego County.

$2.339 at the Arco. Go figure.

$2.419 at the Chevron. Which really sucks because my baby runs the best on Chevron.
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 04:15 AM
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In europe we pay about 1.10 euro per litre. Must say that it's for 95 octane fuel (which is standard here). You can also go for 98 octane fuel, which is about 1.25 euro per litre. I think a gallon is about 4.5 liters. (your octane levels are pretty low though.... what is the octane level on your 'premium fuel' ?)
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 05:38 AM
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Found Shell at $1.81 last night. Definitely not complaining!!!
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 05:47 AM
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Originally posted by moda_way
Found Shell at $1.81 last night. Definitely not complaining!!!
And that for a Dutch company ! :-)
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 05:50 AM
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1 gal is 3.8 l.

Biker, who lives in the land of cheap fuel, well at least at $3.90/gal it's the some of the cheapest in Western Europe.
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 08:44 AM
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Paid $1.89 for 93 octane recently...before that it was $1.92, going down?
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 10:17 AM
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I did $1.859 in MA this week.
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 10:27 AM
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Saw Octane 93 for $1.79 here in Rockford, IL at an Amoco and a Mobile today. Some other brand gas stations north of Rockford have it for less even.
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 11:08 AM
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$2.249 at my last fill-up. Damn this is getting expensive.
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 11:13 AM
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$2.07 for 93 octane in NYC

Side question though: Did Sunoco get rid of the Ultra 94? I have been using Amoco 93 for the last 3 years because it just hasn't been convenient to get Sunoco, but one finally opened up in my neighborhood and they only have 93 now???

Sorry to thread jack.
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 12:07 PM
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here is a $1.63 for 87 octane, while its $1.89 for 93.
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by Agent_Chen
here is a $1.63 for 87 octane, while its $1.89 for 93.
We are lucky here in Missouri. It's about a nickle cheaper on this side of the state.
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 01:31 PM
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1.619 for 93 octane at Costco today.
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by kenk25
1.619 for 93 octane at Costco today.
DAMN!!! I paid $2.249 for 91 at Costco. Why the hell is gas in Cali so much more expensive than the rest of the country?
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 02:02 PM
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2.42 at cheveron in riverside, CA (so cal)
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 03:08 PM
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Del Mar, CA Mobile 91 Octane 2.65/per gal :pfawk: :bukkake:
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 03:12 PM
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Originally posted by Mokijoki
In europe we pay about 1.10 euro per litre. Must say that it's for 95 octane fuel (which is standard here). You can also go for 98 octane fuel, which is about 1.25 euro per litre. I think a gallon is about 4.5 liters. (your octane levels are pretty low though.... what is the octane level on your 'premium fuel' ?)

That's really expensive. I can see why small cars sell well over there. I live in Canada and we're paying about $0.85/L for 94 octane. I think they use a different formula for calculating octane in North America than they do elsewhere. Our 94 octane is roughly the same as your 98.
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 03:19 PM
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$1.99 for 93 @ Mobil here in Connecticut.
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 03:20 PM
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Originally posted by CGTSX2004
DAMN!!! I paid $2.249 for 91 at Costco. Why the hell is gas in Cali so much more expensive than the rest of the country?
Extra taxes.
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 03:23 PM
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Originally posted by Lung Fu Mo Shi
Extra taxes.
But not even the highest in the country and yet our gas prices are the highest in the country by far. I remember someone put up a listing of all the states and their total gas taxes per gallon and I think there were 3 or so states with more taxes per gallon than California, yet they had gas prices substantially cheaper than Cali.
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 03:34 PM
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cheapest gas ...

You guys ever check out this site...it's basically the lowest gas prices recorded in your state.
Just try www.yourstategasprices.com/

ie www.newhampshiregasprices.com...

But then again, don't feel too bad. Gas in Europe is about $5 a gallon !
When i'm over in Germany It's costing me well over $100. to fill an Audi A8 over there. Fortunately Audi reimburses me... but driving high speeds in Europe, though fun will definately cost you.
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 03:46 PM
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Thanks todd for the site. This may be useful.
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 03:56 PM
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Originally posted by CGTSX2004
But not even the highest in the country and yet our gas prices are the highest in the country by far. I remember someone put up a listing of all the states and their total gas taxes per gallon and I think there were 3 or so states with more taxes per gallon than California, yet they had gas prices substantially cheaper than Cali.
California demands that refineries make a special gas for the California market to reduce our smog levels. Its a gas for CA markets only - the other EPA emission reduced areas are not as stringent as those of the CARB (California Air Resources Board).

As this gas can only be sold in CA no one wants to make too much of it and so if there is a shortage or a problem or they feel like screwing us they usually do.

California also changes over to the special low-smog gas around the end of Feb and uses it through Oct so the prices shoot up. Add to that the upcoming driving season and it doesn't look good. $3 here we come. :'(

Blame California EPA *and* the refineries.
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 04:06 PM
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Let's start with the refineries.
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 04:09 PM
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IIRC California has just 6 refineries to provide gasoline for the entire state. And because we have a special formula mandated by state law we can't import from other areas. During the changeover from winter to summer fomulas (or the reverse) the refineries are not at max production. If demand increases beyond the production limit, prices will spike up. This problem will only become worse as our gas consumption increases unless we can either produce more or standardize our gasoline formula to allow other state's products in when needed.

Now the question is, how much will prices decline here when production once again increases to meet demand?

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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 08:21 PM
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Originally posted by Santa Rosa Steve
[B]IIRC California has just 6 refineries to provide gasoline for the entire state. And because we have a special formula mandated by state law we can't import from other areas. During the changeover from winter to summer fomulas (or the reverse) the refineries are not at max production. If demand increases beyond the production limit, prices will spike up. This problem will only become worse as our gas consumption increases unless we can either produce more or standardize our gasoline formula to allow other state's products in when needed.
And Shell is closing a refinery in September here in CA... we are screwed!

$2.47 for 91 gas here in San Luis Obispo, CA
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 10:19 PM
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I laugh whenever people talk about how expensive gas is yet they buy bottled water for 3 times the price of gasoline. Gas should be $10/gal when you figure all of the processing and refining that goes into making it and delivering it to your tank. Just be thankful that its as cheap as it is.

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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 12:16 AM
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Gas was relatively cheap in Toronto today. It was at 67 cents a litre. Too bad I didn't need to fill up.
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 12:26 AM
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Gas is pretty cheap here in Georgia. We transport gas through underground pipes, not by trucks, so the gas isn't taxed to death. It's about $1.52 average for regular, and it's just a bit more for the higher stuff.
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