New Engine Break in Period?
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I've been told that you should keep your new car below 60 mph and not to push it towards the "red-line" for the first 500 miles to keep from damaging the engine. Is this just a farse? Seems to me that with today's machine technology we can make parts precise enough to prevent unessesary wear. Any thoughts?
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its true. try a search.
but in short, here are break-in tips:
1. keep rpm under 4500k
2. keep it under 70mph
3. vary rpm as much as possible under 4500k rpm
4. apply brakes gently for first 200 miles
5. do this for first 600 miles (some people say they get more hp/torque if they break-in for 1000 miles)
6. am i missing something?
but in short, here are break-in tips:
1. keep rpm under 4500k
2. keep it under 70mph
3. vary rpm as much as possible under 4500k rpm
4. apply brakes gently for first 200 miles
5. do this for first 600 miles (some people say they get more hp/torque if they break-in for 1000 miles)
6. am i missing something?
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Re: New Engine Break in Period?
Originally posted by Lorog1992
I've been told that you should keep your new car below 60 mph and not to push it towards the "red-line" for the first 500 miles to keep from damaging the engine. Is this just a farse? Seems to me that with today's machine technology we can make parts precise enough to prevent unessesary wear. Any thoughts?
I've been told that you should keep your new car below 60 mph and not to push it towards the "red-line" for the first 500 miles to keep from damaging the engine. Is this just a farse? Seems to me that with today's machine technology we can make parts precise enough to prevent unessesary wear. Any thoughts?
Also , its not a good ideas to brake very hard on ANY new brakes.
And finally...the owners manual specifically states to break the car in slowly...so that tells me that I may as well do it. Better to be safe than sorry right?
So for me that meant no hard braking, and shifting before 4k MOST of the time. As for keeping it under 65mph...i personally dont see a reason for this. As long as your rpms are low enough, and you avoid having to brake hard...it shoud be ok. Thats my 2 cents.
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I think you guy's are being a little conservative. If it'll rev to 7100 rpm, get it up there once and awhile. I've had mine up there on a couple of occasions and I have 200 miles on mine. It's a Honda, they like to rev a little even when new. I'm not condoning it as a regular practice till ya get some miles on it, but come on. I'm not talking about red-lining it, just gettin it up in the rev range once and awhile. Your engine will thank you when you do it later on.
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My dealer just called me yesterday and informed me that they had located and picked up the color and 6sd trans I requested a month ago. However, to my amazement, I informed that the car already had 287 miles on it. I am a bit concerned about this...
What are your thoughts?
What are your thoughts?
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Originally posted by moroulette
My dealer just called me yesterday and informed me that they had located and picked up the color and 6sd trans I requested a month ago. However, to my amazement, I informed that the car already had 287 miles on it. I am a bit concerned about this...
What are your thoughts?
My dealer just called me yesterday and informed me that they had located and picked up the color and 6sd trans I requested a month ago. However, to my amazement, I informed that the car already had 287 miles on it. I am a bit concerned about this...
What are your thoughts?
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if i am going to keep the car long, i will ask them to give me another one, How do i know the car was treated during it's virgin 287mile? if i want to keep the car for 5 years, i would wait for another 1 month for them to located a new car.
in ontario Canada, there is a law the specific the mileage for a "new car"can not exceed certain km....
hope this helps...
in ontario Canada, there is a law the specific the mileage for a "new car"can not exceed certain km....
hope this helps...
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Originally posted by moroulette
I already negotiated it down to $26,000 with my POS trade-in. I thought I got it down to the lowest price possible. How much more should I ask for?
I already negotiated it down to $26,000 with my POS trade-in. I thought I got it down to the lowest price possible. How much more should I ask for?
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Originally posted by gogozy
if i am going to keep the car long, i will ask them to give me another one, How do i know the car was treated during it's virgin 287mile? if i want to keep the car for 5 years, i would wait for another 1 month for them to located a new car.
in ontario Canada, there is a law the specific the mileage for a "new car"can not exceed certain km....
hope this helps...
if i am going to keep the car long, i will ask them to give me another one, How do i know the car was treated during it's virgin 287mile? if i want to keep the car for 5 years, i would wait for another 1 month for them to located a new car.
in ontario Canada, there is a law the specific the mileage for a "new car"can not exceed certain km....
hope this helps...
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My car had 4 miles on it
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Of course I had to ask "why?", and the response I got was that it was swapped twice from Boston to Newport, RI and back to Boston.
Of course I had to ask "why?", and the response I got was that it was swapped twice from Boston to Newport, RI and back to Boston.
It's up to you whether you care about that or not. If you don't plan to keep it beyond the warranty period you probably shouldn't care.
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Originally posted by ebcheon
ibut in short, here are break-in tips:
1. keep rpm under 4500k
2. keep it under 70mph
3. vary rpm as much as possible under 4500k rpm
4. apply brakes gently for first 200 miles
5. do this for first 600 miles (some people say they get more hp/torque if they break-in for 1000 miles)
6. am i missing something?
ibut in short, here are break-in tips:
1. keep rpm under 4500k
2. keep it under 70mph
3. vary rpm as much as possible under 4500k rpm
4. apply brakes gently for first 200 miles
5. do this for first 600 miles (some people say they get more hp/torque if they break-in for 1000 miles)
6. am i missing something?
Personally I would stay below 4k for a couple of hundred miles, 4.5k up to 500, 5k up to about 700, 6k up to about 1000 and then redline (as often as possible
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The downside of improper running in can be a shorter engine life, but also loess power (as pointed out in (5)).
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I know these basic break-in period thoughts have been expressed by a number of people on this forum and with some variations on these themes. I restate them here simply to set the stage for my question:
1. Avoid WOT
2. With the manual shifter, vary the speed and rpm, gradually accelerate then let the engine drag the speed down, in each gear
3. Stay at 4,000 rpm or lower
4. Don’t hammer the brakes or tires
5. Keep the speed below 70 mph
6. Don’t use the cruise control
7. Try to run the car at night – cooler air is easier on the engine during this critical period
I have a 5AT with the sport shift, and I plan to keep my car for a number of years, so I want to give the transmission the best break-in possible for a long life. I’ll be extending the “rules” out to 1,000 miles for myself. While in “normal” automatic mode, and with only moderate acceleration, I find when I flip the shifter over into sport shift mode, I’m already in 5th gear by the time I get to 40 mph, which tells me the first 4 gears wouldn’t get much of a workout if I continued to do just that.
I spent many years driving manual transmission cars (clutch foot still looks for something to do once in a while!) so I may have a different approach to breaking in an AT. In the process of trying to follow # 2, above, I find myself in sport shift mode virtually all the time. It really gives me a good feel for watching the gears and rpms to make sure all the gears get a good workout. My question for the experts on this forum is this – is it ok to stay in sport shift mode all the time, or should it be considered just a novelty to be enjoyed once in a while? I’d like some thoughts on this because even after my break-in period ends, I think I’ll still want to spend major time in sport shift mode.
Your thoughts?
1. Avoid WOT
2. With the manual shifter, vary the speed and rpm, gradually accelerate then let the engine drag the speed down, in each gear
3. Stay at 4,000 rpm or lower
4. Don’t hammer the brakes or tires
5. Keep the speed below 70 mph
6. Don’t use the cruise control
7. Try to run the car at night – cooler air is easier on the engine during this critical period
I have a 5AT with the sport shift, and I plan to keep my car for a number of years, so I want to give the transmission the best break-in possible for a long life. I’ll be extending the “rules” out to 1,000 miles for myself. While in “normal” automatic mode, and with only moderate acceleration, I find when I flip the shifter over into sport shift mode, I’m already in 5th gear by the time I get to 40 mph, which tells me the first 4 gears wouldn’t get much of a workout if I continued to do just that.
I spent many years driving manual transmission cars (clutch foot still looks for something to do once in a while!) so I may have a different approach to breaking in an AT. In the process of trying to follow # 2, above, I find myself in sport shift mode virtually all the time. It really gives me a good feel for watching the gears and rpms to make sure all the gears get a good workout. My question for the experts on this forum is this – is it ok to stay in sport shift mode all the time, or should it be considered just a novelty to be enjoyed once in a while? I’d like some thoughts on this because even after my break-in period ends, I think I’ll still want to spend major time in sport shift mode.
Your thoughts?
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Originally posted by chrisalberts
When they transfer cars between dealers it should be on a flatbed. That answer is BS - it's been used as a demo or as a sales manager car.
It's up to you whether you care about that or not. If you don't plan to keep it beyond the warranty period you probably shouldn't care.
C.
When they transfer cars between dealers it should be on a flatbed. That answer is BS - it's been used as a demo or as a sales manager car.
It's up to you whether you care about that or not. If you don't plan to keep it beyond the warranty period you probably shouldn't care.
C.
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Originally posted by TSeniorX
I know these basic break-in period thoughts have been expressed by a number of people on this forum and with some variations on these themes. I restate them here simply to set the stage for my question:
1. Avoid WOT
2. With the manual shifter, vary the speed and rpm, gradually accelerate then let the engine drag the speed down, in each gear
3. Stay at 4,000 rpm or lower
4. Don’t hammer the brakes or tires
5. Keep the speed below 70 mph
6. Don’t use the cruise control
7. Try to run the car at night – cooler air is easier on the engine during this critical period
I have a 5AT with the sport shift, and I plan to keep my car for a number of years, so I want to give the transmission the best break-in possible for a long life. I’ll be extending the “rules” out to 1,000 miles for myself. While in “normal” automatic mode, and with only moderate acceleration, I find when I flip the shifter over into sport shift mode, I’m already in 5th gear by the time I get to 40 mph, which tells me the first 4 gears wouldn’t get much of a workout if I continued to do just that.
I spent many years driving manual transmission cars (clutch foot still looks for something to do once in a while!) so I may have a different approach to breaking in an AT. In the process of trying to follow # 2, above, I find myself in sport shift mode virtually all the time. It really gives me a good feel for watching the gears and rpms to make sure all the gears get a good workout. My question for the experts on this forum is this – is it ok to stay in sport shift mode all the time, or should it be considered just a novelty to be enjoyed once in a while? I’d like some thoughts on this because even after my break-in period ends, I think I’ll still want to spend major time in sport shift mode.
Your thoughts?
I know these basic break-in period thoughts have been expressed by a number of people on this forum and with some variations on these themes. I restate them here simply to set the stage for my question:
1. Avoid WOT
2. With the manual shifter, vary the speed and rpm, gradually accelerate then let the engine drag the speed down, in each gear
3. Stay at 4,000 rpm or lower
4. Don’t hammer the brakes or tires
5. Keep the speed below 70 mph
6. Don’t use the cruise control
7. Try to run the car at night – cooler air is easier on the engine during this critical period
I have a 5AT with the sport shift, and I plan to keep my car for a number of years, so I want to give the transmission the best break-in possible for a long life. I’ll be extending the “rules” out to 1,000 miles for myself. While in “normal” automatic mode, and with only moderate acceleration, I find when I flip the shifter over into sport shift mode, I’m already in 5th gear by the time I get to 40 mph, which tells me the first 4 gears wouldn’t get much of a workout if I continued to do just that.
I spent many years driving manual transmission cars (clutch foot still looks for something to do once in a while!) so I may have a different approach to breaking in an AT. In the process of trying to follow # 2, above, I find myself in sport shift mode virtually all the time. It really gives me a good feel for watching the gears and rpms to make sure all the gears get a good workout. My question for the experts on this forum is this – is it ok to stay in sport shift mode all the time, or should it be considered just a novelty to be enjoyed once in a while? I’d like some thoughts on this because even after my break-in period ends, I think I’ll still want to spend major time in sport shift mode.
Your thoughts?
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Anyway, I've got a 2.5 hour drive back. Should I really stop every 45 min or so to let the motor cool down. We live in FL and it gets hotter than crap down here this time of year? I'm convinced now to break the motor in slowly and vary the RPM...funny, I used to think this was all a load of crap.
Thanks for the info, I'll let you know how the drive home is.
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