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Old Apr 15, 2005 | 03:08 PM
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i thought that this was proven already?

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Old Apr 15, 2005 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jlukja
Driving the AT is so sublime it leaves your right hand free to



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Old Apr 15, 2005 | 10:25 PM
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Countryside: MT definitely
Busy traffic: AT

Traffic in my city is getting worse every year.
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Old Apr 16, 2005 | 12:52 PM
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Nicky,

Girl to girl here . . .

This is the best MT out there. My husband just totaled his 2002 RSX-S which had a great
MT. This is even better! For this car, go MT. FYI, I drive 2004 TL AT . . . IMO MT did
not make it on the TL, but I love driving the MT TSX.

Rachel
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Old Apr 16, 2005 | 06:49 PM
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A Huge Deciding Factor Is That Manual Transmissions Tend To Last Longer (providing Clutch May Need To Be Replaced At Some Point) And That They Can Also Be Overhauled Or Repaired. In Contrast To An At, Once It Starts To Fail Replacement Is Imminent.

And Yes Most Importantly Mt Is Alot More Fun, Makes The Ride Be Worth The Drive!!!
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by JAYCEE
A Huge Deciding Factor Is That Manual Transmissions Tend To Last Longer (providing Clutch May Need To Be Replaced At Some Point) And That They Can Also Be Overhauled Or Repaired. In Contrast To An At, Once It Starts To Fail Replacement Is Imminent.

And Yes Most Importantly Mt Is Alot More Fun, Makes The Ride Be Worth The Drive!!!
PLEASE DON'T TYPE IN ALL CAPS!!
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by pcaulfie
Let's put this question to rest F-O-R-E-V-E-R. I'm an AT owner but if I'd do it again, I'd get the manual. Real men drive MT, pussies like me drive AT. I've always driven manual before my TSX. I learned on a stick shift mini-van with a clutch from hell. Once you get used to it, it's second nature as others have said before. I've owned my TSX for one year. The longer I drive it, the more fun it is. It still feels like I just drove it off the lot and think MT would be even more fun.

I'm getting old, about to have a family, working on the pot belly, and I live in Northern Virginia. I'm a lazy sack, so I drive AT but I idolize the guys on this forum that drive MT.

Posts like that will get you in these parts. Never let the enemy know what your thinking.



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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by berlinrl
Nicky,

Girl to girl here . . .

This is the best MT out there. My husband just totaled his 2002 RSX-S which had a great
MT. This is even better! For this car, go MT. FYI, I drive 2004 TL AT . . . IMO MT did
not make it on the TL, but I love driving the MT TSX.

Rachel

nicky is a guy
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 03:31 PM
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Girl power!!
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 03:36 PM
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6MT on TSX is really top notch

Rest is up to you.
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 03:56 PM
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I thought maybe my sales guy would help out so I sent him this email:

Well, I'm still gathering feedback on the transmission so I figure I might as well ask the guy selling the car since you'll have to get the car delivered either way and there is no price difference.

I learned to drive on a manual transmission and used it for about a year before I inherited the automatic I've been driving ever since (about 9 years). I have a 5 minute daily commute to work (no traffic), spend most of my daily driving suburbia and highways within 20-40 miles of my house. My initial thinking was that I'd enjoy a six speed since the TSX is a "sport sedan" but my sensible side (which admittedly prevails in most situations) tells me to just take the auto to avoid having to teach my girlfriend how to drive and eliminate the possibility of losing interest in shifting gears.
His response was:

the decision is your's only.........Call me with you want me to sell you this car.
I guess I was optimistic requesting human emotion from a car salesman.. Forget his bad grammar even..

Reading this board sure shouts 6MT, but I'm afraid it's like coming here asking whether I should buy an Acura or a Ford.. Not that I'd ever expect someone here to recommend a Ford, but it seems like this bunch is the "hardcore" group similar to Nintendo gamers or Mac users that would accept nothing less than an automatic.. I'm not sure if I'm one of those people, I like to think that I could become one..

Bottom line: My heart says manual, my brain says automatic..

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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 04:00 PM
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For me: My fart says manual, my Mom says automatic.

My Mom > My Fart
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by glacius
I guess I was optimistic requesting human emotion from a car salesman.. Forget his bad grammar even..

Reading this board sure shouts 6MT, but I'm afraid it's like coming here asking whether I should buy an Acura or a Ford.. Not that I'd ever expect someone here to recommend a Ford, but it seems like this bunch is the "hardcore" group similar to Nintendo gamers or Mac users that would accept nothing less than an automatic.. I'm not sure if I'm one of those people, I like to think that I could become one..

Bottom line: My heart says manual, my brain says automatic..

- g
Sale guys just want to sell cars, he would rather you buy one of each

Nintendo?!?!? What's dat? It's PS2, PSP... PS3 on and on man!!

Actually quite many users here do have the 5AT... maybe just coz us 6MT guys shout louder
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Nicky
For me: My fart says manual, my Mom says automatic.

My Mom > My Fart
Is it Nicky or is just getting smelly here?

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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 04:15 PM
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Interesting that this thread seems to indicate the majority would favor the 6MT, but Acura seems to think 70% would want automatics.
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by TomK
Interesting that this thread seems to indicate the majority would favor the 6MT, but Acura seems to think 70% would want automatics.
but AZ users probably represent a pretty small % of the entire Acura owners population.
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by glacius
I thought maybe my sales guy would help out so I sent him this email:

I guess I was optimistic requesting human emotion from a car salesman.. Forget his bad grammar even..

Reading this board sure shouts 6MT, but I'm afraid it's like coming here asking whether I should buy an Acura or a Ford.. Not that I'd ever expect someone here to recommend a Ford, but it seems like this bunch is the "hardcore" group similar to Nintendo gamers or Mac users that would accept nothing less than an automatic.. I'm not sure if I'm one of those people, I like to think that I could become one..

Bottom line: My heart says manual, my brain says automatic..

- g
I'd say go with your heart, that's where you feel happiness. Your brain can play tricks on you, lol. That being said, I still think the 5AT is the best choice for those who commute in heavy traffic daily. It's convenient yet still offers good performance for an AT. Compared to some other ATs I've driven, the AT in the TSX is very responsive and the SS mode is awesome. A good compromise, and my choice of transmission since the TSX is my daily driver.

I don't know where you got the idea that car sales people give a fart about your emotions. They'll smile, say hello and ask you how you are. But after that point, you are just a walking dollar sign.
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 05_TSX_GP
but AZ users probably represent a pretty small % of the entire Acura owners population.
That's why we need those Acurazine stickers!!!
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 04:31 PM
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Ahh, I guess I'll never know what's right for me until it's too late, or I've made the right decision.. Which means to my right brain, "get the automatic" and you won't know what you're missing (if anything) in the manual tranny..

- g
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by glacius
Ahh, I guess I'll never know what's right for me until it's too late, or I've made the right decision.. Which means to my right brain, "get the automatic" and you won't know what you're missing (if anything) in the manual tranny..

- g
Damn... you keep this up, and :troutslap are what you'll get

Do yourself a favour and buy one of each

If you are lucky, try that very sensitive sales guy and see if he could hook you up with say 1 week loaner of a 6MT then a 5AT, so you can base your decision with actual first-hand impression
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by osubuckeye98
That's why we need those Acurazine stickers!!!
bumper stickers?!

I'd prefer cooler looking ones for the back small windows. Or even better, plate frames
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 05_TSX_GP
bumper stickers?!

I'd prefer cooler looking ones for the back small windows. Or even better, plate frames
bumper stickers

static cling window stickers
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by TomK
Interesting that this thread seems to indicate the majority would favor the 6MT, but Acura seems to think 70% would want automatics.
Is this really the number? When I bought mine, the dealer told me 90%/10%... maybe he was just trying to make it sound even harder to get in my combo.
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 11:05 PM
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Is this really the number? When I bought mine, the dealer told me 90%/10%... maybe he was just trying to make it sound even harder to get in my combo.
On our forum, 60% of our members have an AT. I expect that the percentage is higher outside the forum world.
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by osubuckeye98
bumper stickers

static cling window stickers

Like theese!!



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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 11:47 PM
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what's that site ?
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 12:52 AM
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On our forum, 60% of our members have an AT. I expect that the percentage is higher outside the forum world.
Oh, no question about it that the memboers here would be biased... what the sales guy told me was that acura distributers were forcing (well, that's too strong a word; providing incentive to) the dealers to buy in the 90/10 ratio. I guess if the demand were different, Acura would try to change their numbers and compensate as quickly as possible, so that might have only held for a few weeks/months at a time until the manufacturing was adjusted..
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 01:04 AM
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i drive an AT (not a TSX) and i can say i enjoy it just as much as driving a MT.


i may be the black sheep, but there is nothing wrong with that
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 08:00 AM
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I had to drive an hour to test drive a manual, so getting this guy to give me a loaner for a week is impossible..

I think I'll sit on the decision for a bit more and let my head think about things.. One day it's 6MT, the next it's 5AT..

- g
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by matelot
what's that site ?
The main onFyre.net page serves as a 'Homepage' for people's browsers. Look in the bottom left and you'll see a link to Acurazine.

We have our own forums, too... which are general discussion. It's our own little community

We actually had our first onFyre 'mini-meat' last Sunday... here's some pictures:





We're all from Southern California.. if you'd like to see more pics check out

http://www.onfyre.net/forums/showthread.php?t=423
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by glacius
I thought maybe my sales guy would help out so I sent him this email:



His response was:



I guess I was optimistic requesting human emotion from a car salesman.. Forget his bad grammar even..

Reading this board sure shouts 6MT, but I'm afraid it's like coming here asking whether I should buy an Acura or a Ford.. Not that I'd ever expect someone here to recommend a Ford, but it seems like this bunch is the "hardcore" group similar to Nintendo gamers or Mac users that would accept nothing less than an automatic.. I'm not sure if I'm one of those people, I like to think that I could become one..

Bottom line: My heart says manual, my brain says automatic..

- g

If your daily commute is 5 min with no traffic, and your girlfriend is not demanding that you buy an AT, get the MT.

I bought an AT because my commute is 25 min with some traffic, but most of all because my wife always hated driving standard on our last car (Accord coupe), she really wanted an auto this time.

I may have picked a standard if I was in your position, but having said that, I don't regret getting the AT, I have yet to drive a better sportshift, it's fast shifting in SS mode and smooth in auto mode, and I actually like being able to put it in auto mode in stop and go traffic. Especially since it lets you do other things with your hand like reach for your PDA or cell phone (not that you should be making calls while in the car, but still).
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 01:36 PM
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my frds are all asking me why i am not getting a MT....

but mine is a 02TL, which doesn't have MT....-_-''''

AT has a much beter resale value than the MT, but MT is more fun thou, esp in TSX '

for TL i will stick with AT coz it has enough power
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 05_TSX_GP
bumper stickers?!

I'd prefer cooler looking ones for the back small windows. Or even better, plate frames
I want both
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey
I want both
Same here do they exist already by the way???
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 05_TSX_GP
Same here do they exist already by the way???
I've got the window stickers.
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
I've got the window stickers.
How can I buy official AZ window sticker?
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 03:59 PM
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They're comming....
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
I've got the window stickers.
Dan you da man...
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Astro only had a handful of pre-production samples at the Toronto meet but I think they look pretty good:



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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Belzebutt
If your daily commute is 5 min with no traffic, and your girlfriend is not demanding that you buy an AT, get the MT.

I bought an AT because my commute is 25 min with some traffic...
A 25 minute commute in traffic? If I had a 25 minute commute in traffic I would have gotten the MT. You're lucky. Now with a 1 hour commute to go 14 miles...the AT comes in handy.
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