Just test drove the TSX
01-02-2007, 03:11 PM
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Nogard13....just a note that for more than one person on here, the seat position in the TSX takes some time to get right, but when you do find the sweet spot, you're good to go! I have an '04 with no memory seats, so I get annoyed when someone moves my seat, but the newer years have memory seats so that's not a problem.
I've done some long trips in my TSX and the seats have been very comfortable for me. I don't get out feeling stiff or hurting at all as I did with my previous cars.
I've done some long trips in my TSX and the seats have been very comfortable for me. I don't get out feeling stiff or hurting at all as I did with my previous cars.
01-02-2007, 07:59 PM
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My next door neighbour builds Toyota and Lexus cars. (We have a Toyota plant near where I live.)
He says Lexus has extremely high standards and is exceedingly perfectionist. He says it's 10 times harder to meet expectations for the Lexus cars than the Toyota ones.
He says Lexus has extremely high standards and is exceedingly perfectionist. He says it's 10 times harder to meet expectations for the Lexus cars than the Toyota ones.
01-02-2007, 08:47 PM
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After seeing the business card thing at the dealer today, I believe it. He actually told me that we could walk over to another IS250 and the gaps would match the marks on the business card. I chose not to walk all the way across the lot just to see that but I bet it's true.
01-02-2007, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by PJS
Says he who's NEVER ridden a bike!
Unless the bike is asthmatic, there's no way (even against AA/Westfield/Chaterham) it'll be "blown" in the twisties or on track.
Equal measure of bhp/ton, and the bike still walks it due to cornering capabilities, lighter masses to move.
When you invent your twisty, track-eating car, give me a shout - I'll be more than happy to eat my shorts once I've blown every other bike out there.
Unless the bike is asthmatic, there's no way (even against AA/Westfield/Chaterham) it'll be "blown" in the twisties or on track.
Equal measure of bhp/ton, and the bike still walks it due to cornering capabilities, lighter masses to move.
When you invent your twisty, track-eating car, give me a shout - I'll be more than happy to eat my shorts once I've blown every other bike out there.
The theme of the video is (in jeremy clarksons words): the cream of roadgoing bicycles vs. the porsche carrera4, which is nowhere near the cream of roadgoing cars.
01-02-2007, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by dom
The Mazda 3 handles alot better? 
about that.
about that.
01-02-2007, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Nogard13
After seeing the business card thing at the dealer today, I believe it. He actually told me that we could walk over to another IS250 and the gaps would match the marks on the business card. I chose not to walk all the way across the lot just to see that but I bet it's true.
Well, you've got an exciting choice to make. Or maybe some more cars to test drive?
01-03-2007, 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Roffles
Yeah watch this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXQTzxepYjg
The theme of the video is (in jeremy clarksons words): the cream of roadgoing bicycles vs. the porsche carrera4, which is nowhere near the cream of roadgoing cars.
The theme of the video is (in jeremy clarksons words): the cream of roadgoing bicycles vs. the porsche carrera4, which is nowhere near the cream of roadgoing cars.
Read some of the comments posted below the video - very apt most of them.
01-03-2007, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Overtaxed
I forgot to say, thanks for the review!
Well, you've got an exciting choice to make. Or maybe some more cars to test drive?
Well, you've got an exciting choice to make. Or maybe some more cars to test drive?
01-03-2007, 08:13 AM
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Why test drive a IS250 which costs more than a G35 or a TL? Why not drive the TL. It has more power to statisfy your needs. The IS250 is slower than the older IS300, it is also very small, possibly smaller than the TSX. Very overpriced as well.
Originally Posted by Nogard13
Well, I just got back from Radley Acura in Fairfax, VA. I was bored today and decided to go test drive the TSX since it's one of the cars I'm considering buying (hence why I visit this forum). I took out an 06 AT with Nav package and here is what I thought:
Interior:
First thing I noticed where how hard the seats felt. They were comfortable at that moment but I don't know if a long road trip would make my back hurt. The seats in my 02 Honda Civic actually felt more comfortable. The visibility was good, however, and the sliding center console gets mad props.
I liked the fit and finish inside, too. Everything felt like it was just where I would want it to be if I were driving and reached over to do something. The handsfree wasn't really all that intuitive as I tried to pair my phone to test it out and never figured it out. The navi, tho, was pretty cool. I must say, if I do purchase a new car (or, better yet, when I do), I'm definitely getting the nav package.
I did have a problem with the door locks. They interfered with my arm placement when the windows where rolled down. I guess I could get used to that, tho.
Performance:
The engine felt like it had enough power while driving around town but didn't really have the pick-up I expected on the highway. I guess it just needs a bit more torque. I was driving at 70 MPH and I tried to pass some SUV driving besides me. My Scion tC actually feels stronger in this department (and it's at 3200 RPM compared to about 2600 RPM for the TSX so that might have something to do with it, too). I didn't feel like downshifting with the auto since I won't be doing that on a normal basis when I get my car. I fear that uphill roads at highway speeds might be a problem.
Overall:
Overall, I would have to give the TSX an 8.5 out of 10. I was really expecting more power from a 205 hp engine, even if it is an auto. I hear the manual feels peppier but I really want an automatic for my next vehicle. I've been driving a stick for 17 years now and I'm really growing tired of it. Anywho, the steering wheel seemed a bit cluttered and I ended up hitting the voice recognition button several times on accident (I like to drive with my hand in that hole) so I would've preferred it be in another location.
One thing that this test drive did do was help me to appreciate my tC all that much more. I really wanted to upgrade her but now I see that she's really a bargain at half the price of the TSX or IS250, especially when I would rate my tC about an 8.5 as well. I do think I'd be happy with a TSX but it wasn't love at first drive like my Civic was (neither was the Scion, tho). I fell in love with my Civic immediately and still miss it. I like my tC but I don't love it. I'm looking for that love feeling again and thought Acura would provide it with the TSX.
Now it's time to go test drive the IS250. Maybe I'll do that next weekend.
Interior:
First thing I noticed where how hard the seats felt. They were comfortable at that moment but I don't know if a long road trip would make my back hurt. The seats in my 02 Honda Civic actually felt more comfortable. The visibility was good, however, and the sliding center console gets mad props.
I liked the fit and finish inside, too. Everything felt like it was just where I would want it to be if I were driving and reached over to do something. The handsfree wasn't really all that intuitive as I tried to pair my phone to test it out and never figured it out. The navi, tho, was pretty cool. I must say, if I do purchase a new car (or, better yet, when I do), I'm definitely getting the nav package.
I did have a problem with the door locks. They interfered with my arm placement when the windows where rolled down. I guess I could get used to that, tho.
Performance:
The engine felt like it had enough power while driving around town but didn't really have the pick-up I expected on the highway. I guess it just needs a bit more torque. I was driving at 70 MPH and I tried to pass some SUV driving besides me. My Scion tC actually feels stronger in this department (and it's at 3200 RPM compared to about 2600 RPM for the TSX so that might have something to do with it, too). I didn't feel like downshifting with the auto since I won't be doing that on a normal basis when I get my car. I fear that uphill roads at highway speeds might be a problem.
Overall:
Overall, I would have to give the TSX an 8.5 out of 10. I was really expecting more power from a 205 hp engine, even if it is an auto. I hear the manual feels peppier but I really want an automatic for my next vehicle. I've been driving a stick for 17 years now and I'm really growing tired of it. Anywho, the steering wheel seemed a bit cluttered and I ended up hitting the voice recognition button several times on accident (I like to drive with my hand in that hole) so I would've preferred it be in another location.
One thing that this test drive did do was help me to appreciate my tC all that much more. I really wanted to upgrade her but now I see that she's really a bargain at half the price of the TSX or IS250, especially when I would rate my tC about an 8.5 as well. I do think I'd be happy with a TSX but it wasn't love at first drive like my Civic was (neither was the Scion, tho). I fell in love with my Civic immediately and still miss it. I like my tC but I don't love it. I'm looking for that love feeling again and thought Acura would provide it with the TSX.
Now it's time to go test drive the IS250. Maybe I'll do that next weekend.
01-03-2007, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by dnd2984
IS250>TSX>IS350
The only reason I say IS250 lowest is price....If the same price or even 1 to 2 grand differ I say is250 over TSX
The only reason I say IS250 lowest is price....If the same price or even 1 to 2 grand differ I say is250 over TSX
01-03-2007, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by pimpin-tl
Why test drive a IS250 which costs more than a G35 or a TL? Why not drive the TL. It has more power to statisfy your needs. The IS250 is slower than the older IS300, it is also very small, possibly smaller than the TSX. Very overpriced as well.
I started looking at the IS250 just to compare the TSX to something else but I don't think I want to pay $35K for the IS250 with Navi when I can get the TL for that price.
01-03-2007, 08:21 AM
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You need to check out the G35 before making a final decision. Drive the new 07 G35. It's around the same price as the TL, but has everything to offer the IS350 does and more.
01-03-2007, 08:48 AM
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I was actually trying to stay under the 30K mark, tho. That's why I was looking at the TSX and the IS250 (they say starts at $30K but it would cost $36K the way I want it). I think I've narrowed it down to the TSX for now.
I'm not buying until August timeframe, tho, so I'm going to wait and see what the new Accord is going to look like (maybe even the TL redesign if it's really pimp).
I'm not buying until August timeframe, tho, so I'm going to wait and see what the new Accord is going to look like (maybe even the TL redesign if it's really pimp).
01-03-2007, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Nogard13
I'm not buying until August timeframe, tho, so I'm going to wait and see what the new Accord is going to look like (maybe even the TL redesign if it's really pimp).
The Accord will be all new this fall but the TL just went through a refresh so you can an expect an all new TL for 09. (Fall 08 debut) Probably slighlty sooner for the TSX. Again an 09 model.
01-03-2007, 09:07 AM
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07' IS250's were selling at or below invoice before the new year. Im not too sure about now. Every Lexus dealers had tons of 250's on the lot for the december to remember sales event. Loaded 250's with navi were selling at $32k or better.
01-03-2007, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Overtaxed
Oops, forgot: Regarding the seats.
I briefly had an 06 Civic Coupe that I traded for the TSX.
That coupe had the most comfortable seats I've ever experienced! I cannot reproduce that comfort on my TSX, and I'll still always miss those amazing seats, but I find the TSX seats nice and comfortable nonetheless.
I briefly had an 06 Civic Coupe that I traded for the TSX.
That coupe had the most comfortable seats I've ever experienced! I cannot reproduce that comfort on my TSX, and I'll still always miss those amazing seats, but I find the TSX seats nice and comfortable nonetheless.
01-03-2007, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by psteng19
So you've been driving stick since you were 13? Impressive 
but who know's... anything is possible
01-03-2007, 10:26 AM
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The Accord will be all new this fall but the TL just went through a refresh so you can an expect an all new TL for 09. (Fall 08 debut) Probably slighlty sooner for the TSX. Again an 09 model.
Originally Posted by 609CLTYPES
i did the math on that also lol...
but who know's... anything is possible
but who know's... anything is possible
01-03-2007, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Nogard13
I thought the TL and the Accord where due up at the same time. Honda usually does the Special Edition for the Accord the year before they change the body style and I thought the reason behind the Type-S was also because they were changing the bodystyle of the TL. In 03 they released the Type-S and then all new for 04. Eh. I was hoping for an all-new TSX in 08 but I won't hold my breath.
I don't thibnk there is any set pattern to when a new TL is introduced vs a new Accord. But you can be sure that a car that was refeshed like the 07 TL was will stick around for at least 2 model years. (07 and 08)
And the Type S was released earlier than 03. I think it was a model year 02 release.
01-03-2007, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by S power
07' IS250's were selling at or below invoice before the new year. Im not too sure about now. Every Lexus dealers had tons of 250's on the lot for the december to remember sales event. Loaded 250's with navi were selling at $32k or better.
Anywho, if I get the TSX I'm hoping to get employee pricing from my best friend's sister who works for Acura.
01-03-2007, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 609CLTYPES
it's funny that you said you had the 06 civic coupe... my wife has an 06 coupe, and i'm getting the tsx soon
The A pillar, and the view out the backseat windows when I was changing lanes.
I think it may have something to do with the fact that I'm a short female who has always driven cars with big panes of expansive glass. It didn't bother my husband very much.
I don't regret my decision, but it still kinda pains me when I see a Civic Coupe (because I gave her up... snif, snif
).
01-04-2007, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Nogard13
I was actually trying to stay under the 30K mark, tho. That's why I was looking at the TSX and the IS250 (they say starts at $30K but it would cost $36K the way I want it). I think I've narrowed it down to the TSX for now.
I'm not buying until August timeframe, tho, so I'm going to wait and see what the new Accord is going to look like (maybe even the TL redesign if it's really pimp).
I'm not buying until August timeframe, tho, so I'm going to wait and see what the new Accord is going to look like (maybe even the TL redesign if it's really pimp).
01-04-2007, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by pimpin-tl
Lexus does not budge on pricing,
Thats funny because this guy says he got 5K off MSRP. Although I agree, there's no way to get an IS250 under 30K.
https://acurazine.com/forums/acurazine-clubs-meets-15/more-socal-black-angus-meet-5-17-pics-35319/
01-04-2007, 09:41 AM
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I didn't mean I wanted to get the IS250 under 30K but that I didn't want to spend more than 30K when I started looking. I know the IS will cost me at least $33 out the door, if I can get 4K off MSRP (fat chance in this area).
I know the G35 is about the same price as the IS250 but it has a much better engine. I don't know how well it does on luxury, tho. I'm thinking of giving it a test drive and see.
I know the G35 is about the same price as the IS250 but it has a much better engine. I don't know how well it does on luxury, tho. I'm thinking of giving it a test drive and see.
01-04-2007, 10:10 PM
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I kinda regret not test driving the Legacy GT... until I go to the gas pump. 28 MPG on the TSX! Whoo! Our other car is a Subie, and it's a bit of a gas hog. Might be worth it if you want to go fast...
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Originally Posted by afici0nad0
i agree. i too should've test drove it when i was in the market.
Main reason it dropped off my list. The test cars rattled. I had heard they had rattling problems, and then I heard it on both Subies I test drove. (the other was the Outback).
Plus, it didn't seem like a car that price (it's $49,500 for the automatic in Ontario, Canada, taxes in). Looked and felt a notch cheaper inside.
Still, you should test drive it. It's a worthy competitor. (and hopefully, its price is less ridiculous than in Canada......)
01-07-2007, 08:25 PM
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I really do like many of the feature of TSX as I like them on my Accord. I really like the gauge and having 4 door, hid.
Only things I did not like about TSXs were the power and the price. Although they begin 'at similar price, 28k, its harder to talk down TSX since it's acura.
I got my accord drive out at 25500 and I could not be happier.
If 4 door isn't your concern, try test driving an accord v6 coupe. They have pretty much same interior, but more power. Both have pros and cons. I am somewhat debating if i want to trade it in. I do like the look of TSX and the 4 door. But power and look of my accord (full oe kit and lowered) definately makes it hard to let it go.,
Only things I did not like about TSXs were the power and the price. Although they begin 'at similar price, 28k, its harder to talk down TSX since it's acura.
I got my accord drive out at 25500 and I could not be happier.
If 4 door isn't your concern, try test driving an accord v6 coupe. They have pretty much same interior, but more power. Both have pros and cons. I am somewhat debating if i want to trade it in. I do like the look of TSX and the 4 door. But power and look of my accord (full oe kit and lowered) definately makes it hard to let it go.,
01-08-2007, 01:38 AM
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Over here in Australia, the Legacy GT is over $9000 more expensive compared to our equivalent to the TSX. My friend just got a LGT though, and it pulls about the same as the TSX when it is under 3000rpm. When it is above 3000rpm, the LGT's 2nd gear pulls as hard as the TSX's 1st gear.
01-08-2007, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by falcogreg
Ya know, I love quotes like this! I mean, c'mon SLOW??? I have a motorcycle so I know what FAST is. To even approach a bike, you gotta be willin to fork over 40 large or so to compete (80 plus is more typical). There ain't a stock car out there that could come near me in a real world situation. I'm willing to bet that the TSX has better performance numbers than 75-80% of the cars out there. Yeah, you want better, spend at least $5-10k more (again just guessing based on my experiences). To get this performance from this car with all the amenities at this price point, I think you'll have a hard time coming close. You want an adrenaline rush, get a bike and find out what it's all about. Otherwise, enjoy it for what it is or spend a lot more for the gains. But don't knock this car for that reason. It has a lot going for it!!!! 'Nuf said.
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Originally Posted by psteng19
Don't have a bike of my own, but rode my bud's GSX-R (600), so I know just how quick bikes are.
Just watch the video.
And then look up another Top Gear video where a Carerra 911 4S (?) beats a Yamaha R1 on a track.
Then you'll see it's the corners where the bike loses all the ground it gains in the straights.
Just watch the video.
And then look up another Top Gear video where a Carerra 911 4S (?) beats a Yamaha R1 on a track.
Then you'll see it's the corners where the bike loses all the ground it gains in the straights.
01-09-2007, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by psteng19
Don't have a bike of my own, but rode my bud's GSX-R (600), so I know just how quick bikes are.
Just watch the video.
And then look up another Top Gear video where a Carerra 911 4S (?) beats a Yamaha R1 on a track.
Then you'll see it's the corners where the bike loses all the ground it gains in the straights.
Don't have a bike of my own, but rode my bud's GSX-R (600), so I know just how quick bikes are.
Just watch the video.
And then look up another Top Gear video where a Carerra 911 4S (?) beats a Yamaha R1 on a track.
Then you'll see it's the corners where the bike loses all the ground it gains in the straights.
Cheers, Greg
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