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I have had my heart set on getting a Acura TSX. I currently have a 2000 Accord V6 show car. My daily is a POS '95 Chevy Lumina. I have been looking at a car that is going to get good gas mileage. I was looking into Honda Civic, Toyota Prius, Toyota Camry. Thoes cars are really not my style. But I always wanted to get a Acura TL but I can't afford that with all my other bills. So naturaly my second choice was the Acura TSX. I fell in love with the TSX and was planning on getting one right after Christmas. The reason I am upset is that it only takes Preimum gas.

My question is what kind of gas mileage do you get out of a full tank of gas? I drive 40 miles round trip to work and back each day. I would say half of that is Highway. Right now I am putting in about $45 of gas each week in the lumina (87 octane. The Lumina is a POS that leaks oil and engine light is always on so i know it doesn't get good gas mileage. I really want to get the TSX cause I will not be happy in anything else.

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Gas mileage, generally, is really good in this car. I have been getting over 26 mpg in suburban (no highway) driving. A 4 cyl. Accord will probably be similar and take regular gas, but if you think about it, it's not that much of a difference. The TL, which is more expensive, gets even lower mileage and also takes premium, so you wouldn't want that anyway.

There are tons of threads on this subject, do a search to bring them up.
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Originally Posted by DJ2000
Hi,

I have had my heart set on getting a Acura TSX. I currently have a 2000 Accord V6 show car. My daily is a POS '95 Chevy Lumina. I have been looking at a car that is going to get good gas mileage. I was looking into Honda Civic, Toyota Prius, Toyota Camry. Thoes cars are really not my style. But I always wanted to get a Acura TL but I can't afford that with all my other bills. So naturaly my second choice was the Acura TSX. I fell in love with the TSX and was planning on getting one right after Christmas. The reason I am upset is that it only takes Preimum gas.

My question is what kind of gas mileage do you get out of a full tank of gas? I drive 40 miles round trip to work and back each day. I would say half of that is Highway. Right now I am putting in about $45 of gas each week in the lumina (87 octane. The Lumina is a POS that leaks oil and engine light is always on so i know it doesn't get good gas mileage. I really want to get the TSX cause I will not be happy in anything else.

Thanks for reading.

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I don't have time right now to do the math cause i'm at work but if you are split 50/50 city highway driving to work, depending on how long that highway trip is, your driving style, and some averages from other members on this forum, you will most likely get between 21-23 MPG to be conservative. So you are driving around 200 miles and assuming you get that gas mileage, that puts you in around 2/3-3/4 down from a full tank of gas. Last i just filled up from around the same spot (with about 200 miles) there which was just under 9 gallons @ $2.79 for 93 Octane, it was a little over $25. Again these are estimates, but again to be conservative, you will most likely be spending around $30 give or take.

Hope it helps ya a little!

On a side note, i go the train station and bck, 3.32 miles from my house with two periodic trips 28 miles round trip in a week and i average about 19-21 MPG, so that is why i assumed you'd be alittle higher than me as well, cause i don't have much highway at all.
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You'll have to do more than describe mileage of your commute and mix of highway and surface streets. Most of my commute is on the highway but most of it is also bumper to bumper. I get closer to 20mpg in an 04 AT TSX.
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Search is your friend. This particular topic has been hammered to death.
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You should check out this thread:

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...hlight=mileage

The TSX is an outstanding highway cruiser. Getting 425-475 miles from a tank of gas in straight highway driving is not uncommon for the 5AT or 6MT (31-36 mpg). City mileage will vary from 17 mpg to 27 mpg.

If the .20 cent difference between 87 and 91 octane is a factor, then you might want to stick with a Accord I-4. Same engine detuned for better economy, no fun factor at all.

Here is the math:

15,000 miles per year 21 mpg avg = 714.3 gallons used (using 87 octane)
15,000 miles per year 23 mpg avg = 652 gallons used (using 91 octane)

714.3 Gallons X $3.00 87 octane = $2,143 per year
652 Gallons X $3.20 91 octane = $2,086.4 per year

Difference of $56.50 cheaper overall per year for 91 octane compared to 87 Octane (assuming you lose a minimum of 1 ½ to 2 mpg because of using a lower grade).
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Yeah I know how to search. My particular post was in hopes for you all to talk me into getting it anyway. Maybe with some good tips or suggestions on the gas. I really just want to "TALK" to you guys about this subject rather than reading someone elses topic. If you think I need to search and dont want to talk to me about it it's just as easy to pass this topic by and go to the next with out treating me like a dumb noob that post pointless topics.
I love the TSX and need some other type of opinion other than my wifes that is probably going to say " I dont think its a good idea" Afterr the shock of Premium gas I am getting just getting over it little by little. The gas prices seem to be droping at a nice rate. I even read on MSN yesterday that they dont dought that gas prices in a few years will go back down to $1.15 a gallon.

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Originally Posted by mrgold35
You should check out this thread:

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...hlight=mileage

The TSX is an outstanding highway cruiser. Getting 425-475 miles from a tank of gas in straight highway driving is not uncommon for the 5AT or 6MT (31-36 mpg). City mileage will vary from 17 mpg to 27 mpg.

If the .20 cent difference between 87 and 91 octane is a factor, then you might want to stick with a Accord I-4. Same engine detuned for better economy, no fun factor at all.

Here is the math:

15,000 miles per year 21 mpg avg = 714.3 gallons used (using 87 octane)
15,000 miles per year 23 mpg avg = 652 gallons used (using 91 octane)

714.3 Gallons X $3.00 87 octane = $2,143 per year
652 Gallons X $3.20 91 octane = $2,086.4 per year

Difference of $56.50 cheaper overall per year for 91 octane compared to 87 Octane (assuming you lose a minimum of 1 ½ to 2 mpg because of using a lower grade).
wow thanks for the usefull informtion.
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well if you assume that mileage will remain equal because many cars can have the same milage even tho they require different grades of gas, it's around 150/yr for the difference... say you fill up once a week and it costs you 3 bucks/tank...

it's not a huge different to be honest...
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if u cant afford the gas dont buy the car.
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My contention is that if you are concerned about the price difference between premium and regular gas, maybe you shouldn't be buying an Acura or any other luxuary model car. Not trying to be a dick, it's just that the price difference isn't that much so if it is a factor in the decision maybe you need to lower your style standards.
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Originally Posted by cibs
well if you assume that mileage will remain equal because many cars can have the same milage even tho they require different grades of gas, it's around 150/yr for the difference... say you fill up once a week and it costs you 3 bucks/tank...

it's not a huge different to be honest...
along this line of thinking....

40 miles/day x 5 days/week = 200 miles/week
x 52 weeks = 10400 miles/year

I average 27mpg overall but lets say you will average 25mpg so
10400miles/25mpg = 416 gal.

The spread between 87 octane and 91 octane is usually 20 cents/gal. so
416gal x $0.20/gal = $83.20

So, assuming all else being equal you will pay $83.20 more over the course of a year for a car that gets 25mpg. If you use 87 octane in your TSX then your fuel economy will go down and the "savings" of using 87 octane will go down as well. Of course, if you go with a Civic you might get 34mpg combined and your "savings" will increase. I guess my point is that it'll cost you roughly $80-$100 more for fuel annually. If you're considering a $28K-$30K automobile is it worth it to worry about an additional $80-$100/year.
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Originally Posted by LuvMyTSX
Gas mileage, generally, is really good in this car. I have been getting over 26 mpg in suburban (no highway) driving. A 4 cyl. Accord will probably be similar and take regular gas, but if you think about it, it's not that much of a difference. The TL, which is more expensive, gets even lower mileage and also takes premium, so you wouldn't want that anyway.

There are tons of threads on this subject, do a search to bring them up.
what LuvMyTSX said
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^^ exactly what i was thinking, but just didn't have the time to do the math. thanks jlukja!
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Originally Posted by jlukja
The spread between 87 octane and 91 octane is usually 20 cents/gal. so
416gal x $0.20/gal = $83.20
That's $6.90 extra a month. So you're about an extra value meal and a happy meal per month away from a TSX. Get the TSX, man.
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Originally Posted by GIBSON6594
My contention is that if you are concerned about the price difference between premium and regular gas, maybe you shouldn't be buying an Acura or any other luxuary model car. Not trying to be a dick, it's just that the price difference isn't that much so if it is a factor in the decision maybe you need to lower your style standards.
I would agree. If the extra $3 per fill up is an issue then maybe you should re-evaluate why you would like to buy the TSX (or any other Acuras or luxury marques).

I bet you won't even notice it when filling up.
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Originally Posted by CarbonGray Earl
That's $6.90 extra a month. So you're about an extra value meal and a happy meal per month away from a TSX. Get the TSX, man.
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I tried the reverse and started using 91 octane in my Accord to see how much my mpg would increase. I'm getting 1 1/2 mpg better in combined city driving (60% hwy) and a little over 2 mpg better on the highway (comparing 87 to 91 octane on a 9 year old Accord LX 4dr).

From the math above, there isn't really a big $$ savings/expense over 12 month. There is a time savings; it would mean 2-3 less trips to Sam's club waiting 10-20 minutes to gas up each time.

I think the Honda/Acura engines would show a more noticeable difference in octane level overall gas mileage compared to Ford/GM/Dodge counterparts.
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Originally Posted by mrgold35
You should check out this thread:

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...hlight=mileage

The TSX is an outstanding highway cruiser. Getting 425-475 miles from a tank of gas in straight highway driving is not uncommon for the 5AT or 6MT (31-36 mpg). City mileage will vary from 17 mpg to 27 mpg.

If the .20 cent difference between 87 and 91 octane is a factor, then you might want to stick with a Accord I-4. Same engine detuned for better economy, no fun factor at all.

Here is the math:

15,000 miles per year 21 mpg avg = 714.3 gallons used (using 87 octane)
15,000 miles per year 23 mpg avg = 652 gallons used (using 91 octane)

714.3 Gallons X $3.00 87 octane = $2,143 per year
652 Gallons X $3.20 91 octane = $2,086.4 per year

Difference of $56.50 cheaper overall per year for 91 octane compared to 87 Octane (assuming you lose a minimum of 1 ½ to 2 mpg because of using a lower grade).
Thanks for doing the math, i just made a lot lot of estimates cause i don't have time to do the math....gotta do too much math in designing this rebar for the turnpike bridge!!! Gotta make sure the roads are safe for ya'll to drive on

Taking my numbers (estimates) i'm just under what your $2,000/year!!
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Originally Posted by JeffS
I would agree. If the extra $3 per fill up is an issue then maybe you should re-evaluate why you would like to buy the TSX (or any other Acuras or luxury marques).

I bet you won't even notice it when filling up.
You guys are right. What the hell am I worrying about. Its not that bad. See this is what I need. Not that I can't figure it out myself its just that I need a little reassurance.
plus what MrGold posted it seems to pan out anyways. I am glad that I started this topic. I feel much better about getting that TSX.

Its not that I cant afford the gas. When I started looking at cars I was looking into Hybrids and cars that get great gas mileage. But to be honest I dont see myself driving thoes ugly ass cars. Plus I would hate to turn smug. Gas prices are starting to get better anyways.

one more question maybe some of you can answer for me before I call an insurance agent. How much do you all pay for insurance. I am aware that mine is not going to be the same cause of everyones is different. So if you are Married, about 25 years of age what are you paying per mo. in insurance?

Thanks for all the info fellas.
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Sorry to deflect your question, but there is a HUGE thread about "what are you paying for insurance on your TSX" with dozens of useful entries, and I'm sure you don't want us doing that all over again. Just search it

Also, some asshat took it on a big tangent about page 3 i think and there is some bashing, but it comes back and has a lot of useful info in it in general.
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Originally Posted by Reach
Sorry to deflect your question, but there is a HUGE thread about "what are you paying for insurance on your TSX" with dozens of useful entries, and I'm sure you don't want us doing that all over again. Just search it

Also, some asshat took it on a big tangent about page 3 i think and there is some bashing, but it comes back and has a lot of useful info in it in general.
Yeah your right. Right after I posted it I started searching for it.

DISREGARD previous post about insurance! thanks
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just get the TSX since at max its probably 100-200 dollars a year more. And at the pump thats an extra $3-$4 which is pretty reasonable IMO. As others mentioned before people can afford a 27K car but cant spend 3-4dollars more at the pump shouldnt be driving a 27K car.
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Stop thinking so much. The dollar difference in the end is not worth talking about. Go buy your new ride, enjoy the new car smell, open up the sunroof and go for a long drive.
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Originally Posted by hyun
if u cant afford the gas dont buy the car.
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Simple buy another accord they have great deals on 06 models...
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Originally Posted by Still Water
Stop thinking so much. The dollar difference in the end is not worth talking about. Go buy your new ride, enjoy the new car smell, open up the sunroof and go for a long drive.
this is probably the best advice yet
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Originally Posted by Newplay1
Simple buy another accord they have great deals on 06 models...
meah.... I dont like the exterior of the Accord. I hope to get a good deal on a 06 TSX right after christmas.
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meah.... I dont like the exterior of the Accord. I hope to get a good deal on a 06 TSX right after christmas.
Congrats on the good choice!
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Originally Posted by DJ2000
Hi,

I have had my heart set on getting a Acura TSX. I currently have a 2000 Accord V6 show car. My daily is a POS '95 Chevy Lumina. I have been looking at a car that is going to get good gas mileage. I was looking into Honda Civic, Toyota Prius, Toyota Camry. Thoes cars are really not my style. But I always wanted to get a Acura TL but I can't afford that with all my other bills. So naturaly my second choice was the Acura TSX. I fell in love with the TSX and was planning on getting one right after Christmas. The reason I am upset is that it only takes Preimum gas.

My question is what kind of gas mileage do you get out of a full tank of gas? I drive 40 miles round trip to work and back each day. I would say half of that is Highway. Right now I am putting in about $45 of gas each week in the lumina (87 octane. The Lumina is a POS that leaks oil and engine light is always on so i know it doesn't get good gas mileage. I really want to get the TSX cause I will not be happy in anything else.

Thanks for reading.

Brandon
You'll average somewhere around 26MPG driving 40 miles round-way (assuming at least 2-3 of the 40 miles are city). The fuel tank capacity is 17.1 gallons, but the gas indicator lights up when you use about 12-13 gallons. So do the math...
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Originally Posted by hyun
if u cant afford the gas dont buy the car.


That's not the point. The point is that A LOT of people hate shelling out that extra $4-7 dollars per fillup, especially when other 4-bangers gulp down 87 octane w/out problems.
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I try not thinking about the gas prices too much, like others say, just enjoy the car, go out for a long drive.
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I put in $45-50 full tank 91 octane. Thats about $3-3.30 for premium.

and I drive 60 miles a day.
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you dont have to fill up your car on premium gas everytime, but its a high compression engine (so I've been told) so it will get better gas mileage with premium gas.. go figure
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I think with the 04-05's you CAN put regular but at the cost of some performance. Not sure about the 06's though.

Also, if you're hondatafied (like me), forget about regular (not that i'd ever consider using regular), you're now a slave to premium!
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Originally Posted by CarbonGray Earl
That's $6.90 extra a month. So you're about an extra value meal and a happy meal per month away from a TSX. Get the TSX, man.
This is exactly why I roll my eyes when people go "Why'd you buy a car that takes premium!"
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If fuel efficiency is your highest priority, the TSX is not the car for you
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Originally Posted by fdl
If fuel efficiency is your highest priority, the TSX is not the car for you
well it really isnt anymore. Thats why I want the TSX over the ugly cars that get good gas mileage.
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Originally Posted by mrgold35
You should check out this thread:

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...hlight=mileage

The TSX is an outstanding highway cruiser. Getting 425-475 miles from a tank of gas in straight highway driving is not uncommon for the 5AT or 6MT (31-36 mpg). City mileage will vary from 17 mpg to 27 mpg.

If the .20 cent difference between 87 and 91 octane is a factor, then you might want to stick with a Accord I-4. Same engine detuned for better economy, no fun factor at all.

Here is the math:

15,000 miles per year 21 mpg avg = 714.3 gallons used (using 87 octane)
15,000 miles per year 23 mpg avg = 652 gallons used (using 91 octane)

714.3 Gallons X $3.00 87 octane = $2,143 per year
652 Gallons X $3.20 91 octane = $2,086.4 per year

Difference of $56.50 cheaper overall per year for 91 octane compared to 87 Octane (assuming you lose a minimum of 1 ½ to 2 mpg because of using a lower grade).

what this dude said. 91 octane is not that expensive! i don't think its cheaper in the long run..but its not going to kill you and plus you get awesome performance. my tsx purrs like a kitten with premium.


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