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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 01:26 AM
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HIDs auto level?

does our tsx have auto leveling headlights?
because, HIDs are illegal here in usa without autoleveling. on my friend's lexus, i can cleary tell they do adjust, but i cant really tell if our tsx does adjust.
anyone know?
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 01:32 AM
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They do not auto-level (and I have never heard of any such law here in the states).
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 01:33 AM
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Not autoleveling = not illegal

Acura wouldn't be importing an illegal product. None of the Acura vehicles have autoleveling...so I'm pretty sure it's not illegal.
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 02:30 AM
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hmm. guess im wrong.
i was told they couldnt sell aftermarket kits because it didnt have auto leveling.
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by euroStyle
hmm. guess im wrong.
i was told they couldnt sell aftermarket kits because it didnt have auto leveling.
That is a different issue. Since last year, Aug 15 to be precise, aftermarket kits are banned in the USA because the NTSB (I believe) was getting many complaints because people were installing aftermarket HIDs in sealed beams that weren't designed for it, and the result was poor alignment and many got blinded by the light. (though in my opinion, 9 out 10 times the problem really was that people stared directly into these lights)
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 05:57 AM
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The new RL will probably be the first Acura to have auto-level HIDs.

Lots of HID equiped cars out there have no auto-level.
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 10:27 AM
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yeah only a few just got the new feature and theyre around 40 or 60 k if i rememeber correctly.
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Xtremespeed2102
yeah only a few just got the new feature and theyre around 40 or 60 k if i rememeber correctly.
Umm...not really...

BMW, Lexus, Audi, Mercedes, and other manufacturers only do auto-leveling xenons. Even on their entry-level cars, like the 3-series, IS, A4, C-class, etc...
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 11:01 AM
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You wouldn't believe the extra cost of those auto-leveling lights....
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 11:18 AM
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I know this my first post, I don't have a TSX, but really like the car. I think the autoleveling issue is for Europe. You are not allowed to have HID's in Europe w/o some sort of autoleveling. The autoleveling can be either adjustment of the light (in the case of BMW's) or through self-leveling suspension(in the case of Mercedes Benz). The reasoning is if load the car down the headlights do not put an light down on the road.

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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 11:21 AM
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In all honesty, the auto-leveling capbilities right now, I feel, are hardly useful. Their reaction time isn't fast enough to compensate for every rise and dip in the road and for most situations, they still blind other drivers. Until auto-leveling technology can provide near instantaneous adjustment, they will be just another gimmick to jack up the pricing of cars.
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
In all honesty, the auto-leveling capbilities right now, I feel, are hardly useful. Their reaction time isn't fast enough to compensate for every rise and dip in the road and for most situations, they still blind other drivers. Until auto-leveling technology can provide near instantaneous adjustment, they will be just another gimmick to jack up the pricing of cars.
But they aren't designed for every dip in the road. They are designed to compensate for more rear seat (or trunk) loading, tilting the front of the car up.
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Lung Fu Mo Shi
But they aren't designed for every dip in the road. They are designed to compensate for more rear seat (or trunk) loading, tilting the front of the car up.
Right, but the marketing people try and promote it as though it were designed to handle every dip in the road, which gives people the wrong impression. If they didn't market it as such, then people could make the right decision based on proper information.
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
Right, but the marketing people try and promote it as though it were designed to handle every dip in the road, which gives people the wrong impression. If they didn't market it as such, then people could make the right decision based on proper information.
Marketing has NEVER done that from BMW, BEnz, Audi or Lexus. Lung Fu Mo Shi is correct, it is about the rear load from passenger or/and stuff in the trunk.

What you have seen is marketing for adaptive headlights that swivel in the direction of your turn.
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by skilit
I know this my first post, I don't have a TSX, but really like the car. I think the autoleveling issue is for Europe. You are not allowed to have HID's in Europe w/o some sort of autoleveling. The autoleveling can be either adjustment of the light (in the case of BMW's) or through self-leveling suspension(in the case of Mercedes Benz). The reasoning is if load the car down the headlights do not put an light down on the road.

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Wrong and wronger. You can get HIDs in just about any car (even in an econobox VW Golf) that have no autoleveling.
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 02:01 AM
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Wrong and wronger. You can get HIDs in just about any car (even in an econobox VW Golf) that have no autoleveling.
Is that true for Europe? I know in the U.S. you don't need autoleveling. I did a quick search on the United Nations of Economic Commision for Europe for HID in the transport section and found this document:

http://www.unece.org/trans/main/wp29...oc/47inf06.pdf

if you search through the document for automatic on page 19 it has the following line:

"More recently, as a condition for allowing HID headlamps
in Europe, these lamps must be installed only when automatic leveling (aiming) and automatic low beam
washing and/or wiping is installed."

so I don't think I was wrong or wronger
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by skilit
Is that true for Europe? I know in the U.S. you don't need autoleveling. I did a quick search on the United Nations of Economic Commision for Europe for HID in the transport section and found this document:

http://www.unece.org/trans/main/wp29...oc/47inf06.pdf

if you search through the document for automatic on page 19 it has the following line:

"More recently, as a condition for allowing HID headlamps
in Europe, these lamps must be installed only when automatic leveling (aiming) and automatic low beam
washing and/or wiping is installed."

so I don't think I was wrong or wronger
That was from a 2001 document in which some US guy was providing info about European issues. All I can go by is what I see on the streets around here. There are cars with HID that have no Auto leveling and no spray/wash feature.
Look at any European product list and you'll see the headlight washer as an option not standard/required.
It could be that for marketing/product reasons most newer models (like 5 series) come with autoleveling but there are many without.
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