how faster/slower is the tsx compared to other cars in its league??

(engine wise not luxury wise)

some cars i really would want to compare with are

honda civics (ex/si 99-current

honda accords

honda prelude (newest body ver)

etc.

also how much better is this 4clyn compared to other makes

example: mitsu eclipse gs

toyota Camry

this is not a vs thread i just want to ask tsx owners what you guys think casue im planning on getting a car and been looking into a tsx or tl , besides from the luxury options im torn between these two cars, i know the tl is faster but i rather have a tsx but if it cant even beat a civic ex or si then i may have to go towards a tl.

thx guys your opinions is greatly appricated

ps love this fourum

 

Let me understand this better. Your buying a TL so that you can prove yourself that you can beat a Civic? For an EX, any car can beat that lol. It seems like money is not a problem to you so I suggest getting a TL- Type S. You will win and your grand prize is a $38k debt ! Goodluck !

 

auto or manual? It seems like the TL-S is the clear winner for you if you are concerned about speed. Otherwise, an accord v6 should be compreble if you don't want the price tag of a TL.

 

no no no thats not where im coming from

im just wondering how much faster is the tsx towards other cars in its class and how much better it is then other 4cylners


and im not getting a tl just to beat a civic not at all, all im saying is i rather have a tsx but if the tsx cant even pull ahead of most 4cylners then i would just get the tl instead

reason being is that of course like im sure most of you on this fourum like to drive and i bet you all like to drive aggressively from time to time its the same with me i know the tsx is fun in the twisties but if i have to give it all i got just to beat a civic then the tsx just wouldnt cut it for me

hope this explains it a little better

 

Why are you looking into luxury vehicles if you're more interested in power?

6-cylinder TL versus 4-cylinder grocery-getter civic...hmmm
civic si's 197 hp @7800 rpm with 2945 lbs versus tsx's 205 hp @ 7000 with 3257-3356 lbs. The hp difference is small and the weight difference is big. Civic Si was meant for spirited driving...it comes with a lsd, which the tsx doesn't (even though it's designed from a race-inspired setup)

Honda accord's come in a variety of set-ups...an accord V6 should beat the TSX...

Basically, if all you're interested in is beating a civic, then you're more of a power person rather than a luxury person...and you are looking in the wrong direction

Get the TSX if you're interested in its handling capabilities, goodies, awards....

 

manual ftw =]

im not all THAT concern about the speed i rather get the tsx manly for gas reasons and you can have more mods and it just be more fun to drive aggressively then a tl imo

all im saying is that for that much money if the tsx can only keep up with civics and not beat them easily is paying that much actually more benificial compared to just buying a civic si?


really i want to get a tsx but im just having a hard time deciding and need a little push to get me over the hill with this

 

i guess its just disappointing to see a civic beat a tsx. To me acura is both sport and luxury but maybe your right obviously im"hooked" on a little kick in the speed department.

 

Who cares if Civic SI can beat TSX. Are you looking to get the car because you want to go street race?

 

Honestly tsx is fun to drive, if you ask everyone a rear sway bar upgrade then driving in some windy roads is good enough to have fun with.

Really how much power will you need to really just pass someone on the high way it does it job and how many of your friends would get in the car and say nice car. Most of my friends think the tsx is the tl -_-...

 

no of course not, i just like to have fun in my car from time to time, i love how the tsx can handle and all but i mean im just trying to compare other 4cylns and where would the tsx stand if it were to race (stock to stock) im not sayin i want a car that can beat a si all im saying is that since everyone in the world has a civic i rather have a car (engine wise) that would stand out from them. and im saying i want to be the fastest thing out there or anything like that just sometimes u want to gun the pedel but it would be heart breaking if you did that and u just see other (stock) 4cylns past u by am i wrong?

i kno tsx stands out with an overall package but is that all the tsx has to offer really?

 

Why? The fact that a Civic "beat" a TSX doesn't mean anything. The TSX isn't a race car, but it has plenty of performance and excellent overall balance. Get the car because it blends luxury, performance, handling and features like no other car at this price point, not because you want to race.

 

i live in a rich city that everyone drives a bimmer. it's funny because you see more bimmers than any other car you name such as a civic. what i'm saying is more bimmers on the road than civics. since everyone drives a bimmer, i love my lowered and new wheeled tsx and everyone compliments it due to my obsessive interest in paint quality of my tsx(that means i have many waxes and other goods you can imagine...except Zaino).

 

The car is a blast to drive. Period.

 

lol ok ok ok u all convince me the tsx is well balanced with everything. i was just afraid that if i buy the tsx later down the road i wouldnt be to happy with it just casue it wasnt "keeping up" i hope u all dont scorn me for this post casue i really do admire n like the tsx.

hmm well since im here typing this could anyone tell me what is the best yr tsx??

btw im not planning on getting it till 08 should i wait for a redesign? or get an older tsx since im sure most of the bugs have been worked out

 

Just my opinion, but I don't think the TSX is the car for you.

You want a special car, but you want to make sure that it is *much* better than a Civic Si power-wise, etc.

You should look into getting a TL-type S.

Then you can say, look at my expensive car. And it's much faster than yours.

 

If you want something fast then you are looking at a wrong car. Its quick enough to make a pass. Don't think of tsx as racing car.

 

He was comparing it to 4-cylinder. TL isn't a 4-cylinder car. Why get a ferrari then? the price between civic si and tl-s is huge. You could buy 2 civic si with the price of tl-s.

 

I dont know what your current car is but as for me, I used to have a g35 cpe . I like the power it has to offer and usually have fun with it. I thought that my TSX(current ) will be ok in power but I guess not. Sometimes I would like to pass slow driver on a 2 lane highway, but I cannot do this with my TSX and have a head on collision. I almost got into a few accident from turning out in front of people because I tend to forget that its not a G35 that can pick up speed quickly . So now after 4 months of tsx ownership, I regret not getting a v6 . This week im picking up my new car- IS350.
My point is that, if you want to have fun with speed than the TSX is "definitely" not for you.

 

The TSX is not for you. Get a cheaper faster car.

Wait til 08 if you want a car that can "keep up".

 

I think everyone is being a little hard on the OP. He is just asking a question that I am sure went through everyone's mind too. How does the TSX perform against other car to justify its $30k price tag?? The point is that the TSX is not meant for speed and a civic SI can easily waste it off the line. But given the TSX's other strong points, can you accept this slight flaw? In addition, you can always get Hondata and other mods to make the TSX a little faster.

 

You guys need to chill out...

I recommend you test drive the TSX and feel if the power is adequate for you.

 

That's the thing. The TSX's $30k price tag is not justified by performance. It's justified by the luxury and handling. It's like in Australia, a Mercedes C200 costs about 1.5x the price of a TSX. It handles worse, has less power, yet it still sells because of the luxury.

 

It is not solely justified by performance but you have to admit performance is a big part of any car shopping comparison. Would you have bought the TSX if it had 155hp?

 

thank you thats all i was trying to ask. i just wanted to compare 4cylners to other 4cylners casue nowadays almost every car is getting all the luxury options to keep up with the competition.

i know the tl is not a 4cylner and i wasnt comparing it to the tsx it was just one of my choices. I was just saying that if the tsx 4cylner isnt that strong vs other 4cylners (ex:eclipse gs, camry, civic) then is it really the most bang for your buck? (leave the navi out of it lol)

 

The 155hp option is an engine choice in japan. But if I were after the poverty pack, I'd get the 155hp without the leather, sunroof, HIDs and stuff to keep the price down. If it were a 155hp with the full TSX luxuries, I'd look at other brands as the amount of car per dollar is less and what you start to pay for is just the interior design.

In other words, I wouldn't pay $30k for a 155hp TSX spec'd car. But I'd pay way less than that for a 155hp TSX without the luxuries.

 

Evil_acura.. I think I have the answer for you... people get a Tsx for 3 main reasons, entry luxury, handling and best bang for the buck... civic is an amazing car but in a different class.. its not the best bang for your buck.. because its still a civic.. nor will you get the luxury/gadgets.. I think if you want speed and a 4 banger, you should be looking at the Mazda speed 3.. i think it might be able to take out the TL-S cuz of the weight facter and the torq.. and no one bash me I test drove the TL-S and the RDX in the same day.. note the RDX is nothing what i expected.. pretty pathetic for the price tag.. I say look in another direction.. (MAZDA) but you wont get the reliability, name and looks of the Acura haha..

 

This is why I wrote what I wrote:

"im planning on getting a car and been looking into a tsx or tl , besides from the luxury options im torn between these two cars, i know the tl is faster but i rather have a tsx but if it cant even beat a civic ex or si then i may have to go towards a tl."

 

sorry due to my lazyness. I didnt bother to read the whole posts and assumed that you were just comparing tsx vs. si. on me

 

Hey, no problem.

Evil_acura, endless-whitetsx brought up an interesting suggestion: MazdaSpeed3.

It was one of the 10 best in Car and Driver this year.

Starting at $22,835

HP: 263
Torque: 280 (wow!)

 

What did you think of the RDX? A ripoff for the price and slow too?

 

Well first off.. I just like to say I was comparing the RDX and the TL-s since I test drove both..

So the TL-S had power.. luxury.. ooo the leather was so soft.. I personally dont like the TLs look but hey it can grow on you.. it had like 283 hp and 200 something torq I dont rememeber.. the rear license plate camera made me fall in love haha.. Only bad thing is that the stock tires are the same as the TSX.. I mentioned to the SR are you serious? Alot of torq steer during our test drove..

On the other hand.. for the RDX.. First you neeed to get the steel steps cuz it looks ugly without it and that cost around $1200 cdn cant exactly remember but around there so it puts the RDX about $1500 less then the TL-S. The interior leather isnt as nice.. the navi position sucks cuz u can see it properley, also the rear seat head rest are just pitiful. Now the power, wait what power.. the turbo was horrible.. it states that the RDX has 250 plus torque because of the turbo but it didnt even move.. the car was slow.. I know its an suv but with more torq then hp I really shouldnt be like that. Me and my buddy who is on this forum agreeed our TSX felt faster.. the handling was good because it was SH-AWD but thats about it...

Overall RDX = just another car.. TL-S is a nice luxury, powerful sporty sedan but my next car will be an Mcoupe so these both dont fit me.. lol..

 

hahaha then you'd have a normal 4-cylinder accord.......

 

yeah i did look at the mazda (3,6, and the speeds) but i really dont want a mazda i hear toooooooooooo many complaints from them even with the new speed6 the awd that adjust power from wheel to wheel for you doesnt work unless your really REALLY turning.

maybe i can clear the issue i have with the tsx 4clyn with a different question

from 1-10 where would you rate the tsx 4clyn engine (engine only) in both performance for a 4clyn and reliability?

1 being hyundai engines(only thing i can think of )
10 being "shit this thing can keep up with a v6?"

 

There is a major flaw in your reasoning: You would think about getting a TL if the TSX can't beat a Civic Si right? Well here is the problem: the TL and the Civic Si aren't in the same class. If you were wanting to beat the Civic then you should look elsewhere but stay in the same price range/class. As soon as you jump up to the TL then you are going to be happy that you can beat a Civic. But when you compare it to other cars in the same class as the TL then the TL might not do so well (I don't know how the TL compares to other cars.) Going the other way you could say that by getting the TSX you will be able to beat some P.O.S. cars like the Nissan Sentra or the Ford Focus. Those cars are not in the same class either.

 

155hp, no leather, no HID= accord LX

 

yah, this really isn't a fast car at all. i had an 02 turbo jetta before i picked up my 05 tsx, and the jetta would smoke this car easily in a race. but the look and luxury get way more looks. women love a nice acura

 

Its fast enough for what I need it for, use another car for the excessive breakage of speed limits.

If you want a fast 4 banger, get a subie STI or Mitsu Evo. Same price as a new TSX and they will guaranteed smoke any other stock 4 bangers, especially SIs. Lux isnt really an option as even with leather, you get a lot of plastic and harsh sport ride. Most people usually buy the TSX over those others because its a hell of a nice car for the money

 

If I didn't care about the money I would've gotten IS350

 

The TSX is a terrific combination of:
-luxury (comfort & features)
-performance (power & handling)
-reliability
-economy
-price

If you're looking for a car that is the best in its class in one or two of the above qualities you will find this same car start to lack in another of these qualities. The TSX is a balance of these qualities.

 

ok you guys are getting me wrong i know the tl is in a different class then the tsx, and im not sooo concentrated on beating a civic i only brought up a civic as an example (another 4cylner). once again the reason why i started this thread was to ask all of you tsx owners just exactly how well the tsx engine performs compared to other 4clyner cars. im not looking for JUST speed, it just be a shame with that price tag for a tsx all you really get is a smooth ride and a navi.

before someone jumps me back to "oh just get a tl so u can beat a civic" line, one of the reasons i need to know how good the engine performs is becasue the tsx is a 4door, now how good will it perform with a full load of passengers or just equpiment? you all said that the tsx has good performance , what exactly is good? can it still hold the same power with a full load? or will it take everything that engine got to just keep up with an aggressive traffic?