Do you need winter tires on the TSX?
09-08-2005, 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by curls
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If you are going to be running dedicated winter-time tires, YOU MUST GET WINTER TIRES.
Just because the Michelin thing says the Energy tires have "8" snow grip, it fails to address the MAIN purpose of a winter tire: Resistance to turning into hockey pucks (hard-as-fuck rubber) at cold temps. Normal "all-season" rubber formulations will start to get very hard as temps below about 5*C. Once you get into the -10 to -30*C range, the all season tires are as hard as ice, literally. This significantly diminishes their ability to grip ice or snow, as the "sipes" cannot open/close to grab onto snow.
Winter tires (the ones with the mountain-peak + snowflake symbol) meet rubber industry standards for temperature resistance and will not get anywhere near as hard as an all season rubber tire.
If you are going to be running dedicated winter-time tires, YOU MUST GET WINTER TIRES.
Just because the Michelin thing says the Energy tires have "8" snow grip, it fails to address the MAIN purpose of a winter tire: Resistance to turning into hockey pucks (hard-as-fuck rubber) at cold temps. Normal "all-season" rubber formulations will start to get very hard as temps below about 5*C. Once you get into the -10 to -30*C range, the all season tires are as hard as ice, literally. This significantly diminishes their ability to grip ice or snow, as the "sipes" cannot open/close to grab onto snow.
Winter tires (the ones with the mountain-peak + snowflake symbol) meet rubber industry standards for temperature resistance and will not get anywhere near as hard as an all season rubber tire.
I don't know whether it's true or not, and for how long you need to drive in the cold for this to happen.
09-08-2005, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by excited
When I went to the dealer today, I asked how much a RSX 16" wheel would cost and they would cost $569 Cdn/ $478 USD per wheel.
We don't have the salt problem here in Alberta but our winter is longer than most and I would like to have a good wheel for that time period. I'm not sure if I want to pay almost $2300 Cdn for the wheels and still have to buy the tires. I might do a little research to find a compromise wheel.
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We don't have the salt problem here in Alberta but our winter is longer than most and I would like to have a good wheel for that time period. I'm not sure if I want to pay almost $2300 Cdn for the wheels and still have to buy the tires. I might do a little research to find a compromise wheel.
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09-08-2005, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by sauceman
I've also been told that running all seasons during winter will actually cause them to dry out and actually wear much quicker the next warm season.
I don't know whether it's true or not, and for how long you need to drive in the cold for this to happen.
I don't know whether it's true or not, and for how long you need to drive in the cold for this to happen.
09-08-2005, 12:38 PM
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I run winter tires here in VA, not because it's really necessary, but more because I want to run summer tires the rest of the year, and summer tires+snow/ice=TSX in a ditch.
I was very impressed with my Dunlop Winter Sport M3s last winter. They outgrip the OEM Michelins in dry and wet conditions, and power through ice and shallow snow much better than the OEMs (I got stuck in icy parking lots three times the winter I ran the OEMs). The Dunlops aren't a hardcore snow tire like Blizzaks, so you Canucks would probably be better off with something else. However, they offer great ride comfort, noise levels, and dry grip while providing good snow/ice traction.
I was very impressed with my Dunlop Winter Sport M3s last winter. They outgrip the OEM Michelins in dry and wet conditions, and power through ice and shallow snow much better than the OEMs (I got stuck in icy parking lots three times the winter I ran the OEMs). The Dunlops aren't a hardcore snow tire like Blizzaks, so you Canucks would probably be better off with something else. However, they offer great ride comfort, noise levels, and dry grip while providing good snow/ice traction.
09-08-2005, 01:23 PM
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I've got a set of steelies and winter tires from tirerack.com. I think I paid about $500 shipped for everything. I do a lot of trips up for snowboarding so I wanted to make sure I had a good set. I take the bus to work so I don't put a lot of miles on them during the winter. Should last me several years.
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09-08-2005, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by itrhybrid
I've got a set of steelies and winter tires from tirerack.com. I think I paid about $500 shipped for everything. I do a lot of trips up for snowboarding so I wanted to make sure I had a good set. I take the bus to work so I don't put a lot of miles on them during the winter. Should last me several years.
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Same.. 16" x4 w/blizzaks.. had for 3 winters now.. love them in the snow..
09-09-2005, 10:23 PM
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I'm leaning towards purchasing the Pirelli WINTER 210 215/50R17 91H . They are not cheap but have terrific reviews. Anyone have any experience with these tires?
http://www.tiretrends.com/wheel2/iuc...05&tireSize=17
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Gary
http://www.tiretrends.com/wheel2/iuc...05&tireSize=17
Thanks
Gary
09-10-2005, 09:10 PM
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I too am looking for snowtires for my 1st TSX's winter. Although the Blizzaks are often highly rated, I hate buying a snow tire that is only a "snow" tire for 55% of it's tread life, while the remaining tread compound is rated as all season.
Here is a helpful website to look at reviews of snowtires. It is a season old but good information non-the-less
http://www.snowtire.info/
Here is a helpful website to look at reviews of snowtires. It is a season old but good information non-the-less
http://www.snowtire.info/
09-11-2005, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by excited
I'm leaning towards purchasing the Pirelli WINTER 210 215/50R17 91H . They are not cheap but have terrific reviews. Anyone have any experience with these tires?
http://www.tiretrends.com/wheel2/iuc...05&tireSize=17
Thanks
Gary
http://www.tiretrends.com/wheel2/iuc...05&tireSize=17
Thanks
Gary
If I go for the 210 on my TSX this year, I will use 16" on steel rim instead of 17". We have a lot of salt in Toronto.
09-11-2005, 05:17 PM
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I have a set of Goodyear Eagle winter-ice grips. I have about 7000mi on them, I ran them on our old Mitsu Eclipse for one winter before we sold it and got the TSX, luckily the size will also work on the TSX provided I get some 16" rims to fit, but lucky for me--we have Tire Rack.
215/55/16 is the size I will be running. They look like new still, these goodyears did a great job on the Mitsu. Unlike Summer tires, I think it's hard to find a bad winter tire.
Come deep snow, any good winter tire beats the piss out of an All-season tire. A good snow tire on a FWD car IMO, can be better in the snow then all seasons on an AWD car.
215/55/16 is the size I will be running. They look like new still, these goodyears did a great job on the Mitsu. Unlike Summer tires, I think it's hard to find a bad winter tire.
Come deep snow, any good winter tire beats the piss out of an All-season tire. A good snow tire on a FWD car IMO, can be better in the snow then all seasons on an AWD car.
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