Buying a loaner/demo TSX
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Buying a loaner/demo TSX
I am considering buying a 2007 TSX that was a loaner with the Acura service dept. It has 6,000 miles on it and it is listed for about $3,000 below MSRP (no navi.) and I will try to knock couple thousand off when I go in. Before I do that, I was hoping for some input. It will be certified pre-owned, 5yrs/62K miles warranty, 7yrs/100,000 miles powertrain warranty.
I realize it has been driven by hundreds of people, and didn't get a proper break-in, but I will probably drive the car for 4-5 years, so I'm thinking the warranty will cover the possible issues that may arise from the car being an ex-loaner.
Any thoughts will be greatly appreciated.
I realize it has been driven by hundreds of people, and didn't get a proper break-in, but I will probably drive the car for 4-5 years, so I'm thinking the warranty will cover the possible issues that may arise from the car being an ex-loaner.
Any thoughts will be greatly appreciated.
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I would make sure to add the extra warranty with the loaner vehicle just to cover your investment at 100,000 miles. I’ve heard if you don’t do a proper break-in the first 600 miles it can sometimes cause high oil consumption at +70,000 miles (more than a quart of oil between changes and sometimes smoke from the exhaust). I think this is very rare for most TSX owners, like 1% of 1%.
The only other problem with a loan vehicle is drivers putting in crappy gas because it is a loaner (86 or 87 octane from u-pump-it convenient stores).
The only other problem with a loan vehicle is drivers putting in crappy gas because it is a loaner (86 or 87 octane from u-pump-it convenient stores).
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I have a CPO TSX (2004) that I bought with 16,600 miles on it back in May 2005. So far, I've not had any problems outside a couple known issues discussed on this forum, so all is well. It now has just under 43k on it and will be 4 years old this February.
I say go for it for the right price, especially since it's only got 6k on it. That isn't a big deal at all. It's just like buying any other used car - you never know how it was treated.
I say go for it for the right price, especially since it's only got 6k on it. That isn't a big deal at all. It's just like buying any other used car - you never know how it was treated.
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IMO i would personally would never buy a demo/loaner car ever! Think about how most people drive those cars when they get them? Its not their property and they aren't responsible for anything that happens to them (well, not accidents but you know what i mean). I mean i get it and just use to go to the train station and such so i don't abuse it at all but if when i got the TL i played with a little bit.
If you get it with the extended warranty then that might be different if you get a good price for it.
my though, i wouldn't get it! Just wait a few more months if you can until the new TSX comes out and they will be GIVING them away!!!
If you get it with the extended warranty then that might be different if you get a good price for it.
my though, i wouldn't get it! Just wait a few more months if you can until the new TSX comes out and they will be GIVING them away!!!
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Originally Posted by jwood_06TSX
IMO i would personally would never buy a demo/loaner car ever! Think about how most people drive those cars when they get them?
On the other hand - and this is OT, I admit - how many of us really do flog the piss out of loaners when we get them? I got a TL and a TSX from Flatirons Acura (Boulder, CO) while my car was being painted, and to be honest, I was so appreciative that they would do something like this that I babied their cars. The TSX only had like 300 miles on it at the time so I was especially easy on it.
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I bought my 2007 with navi for about $25800 (about $28000 OTD) last month and it was brand new. Since your car is a loaner with 6000 miles on it already, it should be cheaper than that. If you can get the car for about $24000, it should be a decent price.
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Originally Posted by hunterk1
I have this impression too and as a result would be wary buying a loaner.
On the other hand - and this is OT, I admit - how many of us really do flog the piss out of loaners when we get them? I got a TL and a TSX from Flatirons Acura (Boulder, CO) while my car was being painted, and to be honest, I was so appreciative that they would do something like this that I babied their cars. The TSX only had like 300 miles on it at the time so I was especially easy on it.
On the other hand - and this is OT, I admit - how many of us really do flog the piss out of loaners when we get them? I got a TL and a TSX from Flatirons Acura (Boulder, CO) while my car was being painted, and to be honest, I was so appreciative that they would do something like this that I babied their cars. The TSX only had like 300 miles on it at the time so I was especially easy on it.
Cars can take some abuse, they aren't made of porcelain. 6000 miles is nothing, IMO.
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Originally Posted by CGTSX07
^^^that is a pretty incredible deal. Isn't that about 2k off invoice? How did you manage to do that?
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Originally Posted by CGTSX07
^^^that is a pretty incredible deal. Isn't that about 2k off invoice? How did you manage to do that?
i brought my car in yesterday to get rid of the check TPMS light. i think my aftermarket alarm set off the light because there's nothing wrong with my tire pressure. they're still diagnosing whether it's the wiring from the alarm or i just need a new sensor. in the meanwhile, they loaned me a 2008 to drive ^_^ not much difference tho, just the navigation disc.
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^ that is a good price, pretty close to what they offered me for a 06 with navi baack in Feb. I got mine for $24,450 + TTL and they offered me one with navi for $25,890 +TTL but it was red and i don't like red cars. It cost me $25,950 or so OTD!
You just need to hit them at the right time when they are planning on getting rid of them. I got a offer on a TL-S leftover for $32,980 + TTL which was unreal, i almost moved on it!!
You just need to hit them at the right time when they are planning on getting rid of them. I got a offer on a TL-S leftover for $32,980 + TTL which was unreal, i almost moved on it!!
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I bought a 2006 loaner with 13k miles on it and it has been fantastic.
No problems, no rattles, perfect condition, and a very good price.
I was wary too about buying a loaner, but I found a few recommendations from service techs that indicated they would have no problem buying a loaner and that the loaners always get proper maintenance. Reviewing the ridiculous detail on Acura's website about their CPO "review" is what sold me.
I also have to admit that I used to flog loaners I got from other manufacturers, but I drive the Acura loaners like my own.
No problems, no rattles, perfect condition, and a very good price.
I was wary too about buying a loaner, but I found a few recommendations from service techs that indicated they would have no problem buying a loaner and that the loaners always get proper maintenance. Reviewing the ridiculous detail on Acura's website about their CPO "review" is what sold me.
I also have to admit that I used to flog loaners I got from other manufacturers, but I drive the Acura loaners like my own.
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When I got a loaner prior to getting my own TSX I tested the limits of the suspension, cornering, acceleration, breaking, everything that seemed remotely interesting or just fun. I would not buy a loaner car. That would be like marrying a veteran prostitute.
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Buying a Loaner/Demo Tsx
Originally Posted by jlukja
That was in my best Joey Tribiani voice.
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For whatever it's worth, I had a TSX loaner a week ago. I put in 83 octane and burnt everyone at the red light...except of course of the folks that had bigger and faster engines. Also tried a burnout, but I figure I would probably get in trouble for that.
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Originally Posted by 1OneLove
For whatever it's worth, I had a TSX loaner a week ago. I put in 83 octane and burnt everyone at the red light...except of course of the folks that had bigger and faster engines. Also tried a burnout, but I figure I would probably get in trouble for that.
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Originally Posted by LuvMyTSX
Seriously....that's not cool. Just because it isn't technically yours, doesn't mean you should abuse it. The dealer is doing a nice thing by providing you with a loaner while your car is in the shop. You should respect it.
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Originally Posted by 1OneLove
The technicians at the dealerships drive our cars the exact same way when they are "test driving" them...do you think they baby our cars?
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GO FOR IT!!!!
My TSX IS or at least was a dealer 'customer pick up' car. Although I live in Southeast Texas, I flew up to Kansas City, MO to get my TSX. It was 6 months old, had 6,900 miles on it, and was offered to me at $22,900 before t/t. I was blown out of the water, I jumped on it right away. My car has performed flawlessly to be honest. The only thing that put a question in my head was a couple months ago, everything cut out while driving down a two-lane road. Engine, electronics, everything...but my radio was still playing (aux jack/ipod) through the speakers.
I know I just went off on a tangent there, but yes. I think it was WELL worth it...and the 700+ mile drive home was really fun too.
My TSX IS or at least was a dealer 'customer pick up' car. Although I live in Southeast Texas, I flew up to Kansas City, MO to get my TSX. It was 6 months old, had 6,900 miles on it, and was offered to me at $22,900 before t/t. I was blown out of the water, I jumped on it right away. My car has performed flawlessly to be honest. The only thing that put a question in my head was a couple months ago, everything cut out while driving down a two-lane road. Engine, electronics, everything...but my radio was still playing (aux jack/ipod) through the speakers.
I know I just went off on a tangent there, but yes. I think it was WELL worth it...and the 700+ mile drive home was really fun too.
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Originally Posted by eilaina
I am considering buying a 2007 TSX that was a loaner with the Acura service dept. It has 6,000 miles on it and it is listed for about $3,000 below MSRP (no navi.) and I will try to knock couple thousand off when I go in. Before I do that, I was hoping for some input. It will be certified pre-owned, 5yrs/62K miles warranty, 7yrs/100,000 miles powertrain warranty.
I realize it has been driven by hundreds of people, and didn't get a proper break-in, but I will probably drive the car for 4-5 years, so I'm thinking the warranty will cover the possible issues that may arise from the car being an ex-loaner.
Any thoughts will be greatly appreciated.
I realize it has been driven by hundreds of people, and didn't get a proper break-in, but I will probably drive the car for 4-5 years, so I'm thinking the warranty will cover the possible issues that may arise from the car being an ex-loaner.
Any thoughts will be greatly appreciated.
Why? The 2007 TL loaner I got from my dealer was a mess inside. Just trashed. I was embarrassed for them.
The only thing that put a question in my head was a couple months ago, everything cut out while driving down a two-lane road. Engine, electronics, everything...but my radio was still playing (aux jack/ipod) through the speakers.
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GO FOR IT!!!!
... The only thing that put a question in my head was a couple months ago, everything cut out while driving down a two-lane road. Engine, electronics, everything...but my radio was still playing (aux jack/ipod) through the speakers.
... The only thing that put a question in my head was a couple months ago, everything cut out while driving down a two-lane road. Engine, electronics, everything...but my radio was still playing (aux jack/ipod) through the speakers.
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I had an ‘07 loaner for part of a day this summer while my ’04 was in the dealer’s shop having the headlights replaced (under warranty, for the condensation problem). I think there were about 5,000 miles on the loaner’s odometer. I was surprised by how much cosmetic abuse the car had taken, inside and out -- scuffs and scratches here there and just about everywhere. I go to extremes in pampering my own car, so it really pained me to see a TSX in this condition, especially such a new one. And who the hell knows what abuse the powertrain had suffered??
As you can guess, I’d never even consider buying a loaner.
As you can guess, I’d never even consider buying a loaner.
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Originally Posted by rx280
I had an ‘07 loaner for part of a day this summer while my ’04 was in the dealer’s shop having the headlights replaced (under warranty, for the condensation problem). I think there were about 5,000 miles on the loaner’s odometer. I was surprised by how much cosmetic abuse the car had taken, inside and out -- scuffs and scratches here there and just about everywhere. I go to extremes in pampering my own car, so it really pained me to see a TSX in this condition, especially such a new one. And who the hell knows what abuse the powertrain had suffered??
As you can guess, I’d never even consider buying a loaner.
As you can guess, I’d never even consider buying a loaner.
We filled it with 3 gallons of gas tho coz they loaned it to us at full tank. 3 gallons for 40 miles, I hope the TSX gets better gas mileage after the break in period >_<
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coming from someone who has only driven acuras, and then sold acuras for a year (a few demo tsx's were in there), i would say you're getting a good car...mechanically that is. most customers take care of the loaners very well while they have them. as for the cosmetics, that just depends on the car.
but when you buy one you know where it has been serviced and all of its records, compared to just a random used car. it is CPO so you get the extra warranty as well, but you really shouldnt expect to have any issues.
having been on the inside, personally, i would buy a demo before a used tsx. also, with it only having 6k miles on it is a definite plus...and there is no "proper break-in" for acuras actually. before the engines are ever installed in the frames, they are run for up to 5k miles to test their durability and to break them in before they are driven. this is part of the reason for their high reliability ratings.
as for the price...most demos are priced to sell. it depends on how badly they want to get rid of it, but most dealerships wont haggle that much (at least not a couple grand) on a used vehicle. they've got a certain amount of money invested in that car and they wont lose money on a used one, unless of course they are desperate to get rid of it bc its been there too long. a new car is different. most will negotiate then! so i wouldnt go in there expecting to get thousands off.
but when you buy one you know where it has been serviced and all of its records, compared to just a random used car. it is CPO so you get the extra warranty as well, but you really shouldnt expect to have any issues.
having been on the inside, personally, i would buy a demo before a used tsx. also, with it only having 6k miles on it is a definite plus...and there is no "proper break-in" for acuras actually. before the engines are ever installed in the frames, they are run for up to 5k miles to test their durability and to break them in before they are driven. this is part of the reason for their high reliability ratings.
as for the price...most demos are priced to sell. it depends on how badly they want to get rid of it, but most dealerships wont haggle that much (at least not a couple grand) on a used vehicle. they've got a certain amount of money invested in that car and they wont lose money on a used one, unless of course they are desperate to get rid of it bc its been there too long. a new car is different. most will negotiate then! so i wouldnt go in there expecting to get thousands off.
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Originally Posted by LORStsxNCSU
... before the engines are ever installed in the frames, they are run for up to 5k miles to test their durability and to break them in before they are driven. ....
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^^so all of our engines were run for 5k miles at the factory?? If that is true, why does Honda recommend everyone to "break-in" their engine for 600 miles?
Also, how can you tell that your customers take care of the loaners? Sure, I might not peel out of the dealership with it, but when I get home, how do you know i'm not redlining every gear on the way?
Also, how can you tell that your customers take care of the loaners? Sure, I might not peel out of the dealership with it, but when I get home, how do you know i'm not redlining every gear on the way?
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I'm willing to bet they pull a random sample of engines to test for problems. It would cost the company Millions of bucks to do this world wide for every engine they produce.
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I might've been exaggerating in suggesting 90% price for a CPO loaner car. But I would still discount it a bit having been any kind of "fleet" vehicle. And my NC neighbor makes a good point, if the loaner was at THAT dealership, all the repair records and work are known and can be provided upon request(?).
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Originally Posted by mrgold35
I'm willing to bet they pull a random sample of engines to test for problems. It would cost the company Millions of bucks to do this world wide for every engine they produce.
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Originally Posted by wackura
I would not buy a loaner car. That would be like marrying a veteran prostitute.
Originally Posted by LuvMyTSX
That doesn't make it right, though. Someone is going to end up buying the loaner, so treating it with some respect would be a good thing.
Now I need to work on treating things other than cars respectfully... Like other drivers on the road, mostly...
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My 06 is a loaner and I have not had any problems with it either. I actually felt betteer about having a loaner because its a dealer cared for car so that means to me that the work on it is quality. In my case the dealer bought the car new as a fleet car and then after 10 the sold it to me. I did get the 100k extra warrenty just in case. I have been happy the the car thus far.