dipkat

In my research for the Jetta 2.0 T laoded vs. the TSX I have come accross the following, which really blows me away. The TSX scored very very bad in rear crash test ratings (Poor), compared to the Jetta (Acceptable) which is quite high on the ratings scale. Looks like the TSX barely passed the crash test.

TSX
http://www.hwysafety.org/ratings/hea...ead_acura.html

Jetta
http://www.hwysafety.org/ratings/hea...olkswagen.html

Wow this comes as a big surprise to me as I had assumeed that the TSX was a cut above the rest.

Bbasso

Good find

leftride

iTrader: (1)

sucks for the TSX (and their owners) but still wouldnt want a jetta.

joerockt

dipkat

Also if you look at the detailed test results, the TSX actually failed in the seat design parameter test

http://www.hwysafety.org/ratings/hea...age.html#acura

Dan Martin

Of course the VW will do well in crash tests...it's hard to crash when you're parked in the service bay at the dealer.

dj Dozhe

What's funny is a crashed TSX still looks better. Interesting.

dom

Now look at every other crash result. The TSX receives 5 stars everywhere but rear side where it receives 4.

sleeper

haven't we had people here who were rear-ended in the tsx? i thought they said even though the car was damaged, it was pretty much only the trunk that took the beating since it absorbed the impact. maybe they weren't hit at 40mph+ or by a tank of an suv, though. either way, acura needs to step up to better standards.

Dan Martin

If you look at the list, pretty well everyone failed the test. Only a handfull received the "good" rating.

curls

The one caveat to this is that rear crash ratings factor LOWEST into the overall safety of a car from a crash perspective, namely because, as the top of that page states, the injuries are rarely serious (as opposed to front or side impact where serious injuries are FAR more frequent).

This is where the TSX does really well, and gets its overall score to be among the best.

http://www.hwysafety.org/ratings/rat...es.aspx?id=460

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/NCAP/Cars/3218.html

dipkat

Honestly, this needs to be taken seriously. The whole point is not about how the vehicle/trunk looks after the impact, but how much forces the body absorbs vs. how much force is transferred to the body. Here's the description of the objective of the test

"For each seat/head restraint, rear-end crash protection is an assessment of occupant protection against neck injury in rear impacts at low to moderate speeds. Although such injuries usually aren't serious, they occur frequently. "

... should we also be wearing helmets while driving the TSX ( .. just kidding!)

dj Dozhe

Either no one has gotten into a rear end crash in a TSX since inception, or this is not as important as some people would like to think.

CGTSX2004

iTrader: (1)

Based on people's actual experiences here with rear end accidents, I must say that the TSX body seems to do a pretty good job absorbing most of the impact and all those people seem to be fine so that tells me the seats work well enough.

joerockt

Yea, that 21_in_AZ guy got creamed at like 80mph or something from a stop and walked away...Need to find that thread...

Edit: http://www.acura-tsx.com/forums/show...&highlight=sad

jiggaman

i was rear ended by a navigator and it didn't even put a dent...

fuckleberry

old news, TSX's rear crash rating has been poor since it first came out

CGTSX2004

iTrader: (1)

Actually, if my memory serves me correctly, the IIHS tested the TSX and it received a 5-star rating at first, but upon disassembly, they discovered that Honda has a number of styrofoam bumper protectors built into the rear bumper right in the center of the bumper so they removed those and offset the crash point from dead center and then re-rated the TSX as a 4-star.

Rather lame, really.

fdl

the 04 TSX faired alot better in tests. weird.

joerockt

...in the Navigator?

LuvMyTSX

Take a look at some of the pictures of TSX's that've been crashed in this forum...you'll see some horrible pics, but hear from the people in the car that they are fine and safe, and VERY thankful for the TSX.

dpak84

Before i got my TSX i had an 02 accord got rear ended and the car was going about 45mph ruined the trunk but i walked away without a scratch.

I also had a buddy who tboned a car in his 01 (going about 70) civic he ended up totalling the civic and again was able to walk away virtually scratchless.

all in all im very confident with the Honda/acura quality on their cars when involved in an accident. thats just my opinion though.

CGTSX2004

iTrader: (1)

Actually, if I remember correctly, jigga's mom was driving the Navigator...

TSX 'R' US

I thought it was the front bumper that had that...

CGTSX2004

iTrader: (1)

Both front and rear have it. But apparently the IIHS felt that Acura was cheating in the rear.

psteng19

Hmmm... something to consider.

I'd definitely give the edge to the Jetta for crash safety tests.
VW did a good job on the new Jetta/Passat from what I've read.

Esp. the pedestrian safe front bumpers

xenonhid

Not this Jetta guy again

Jetta


All these Jetta threads are so = :gheylaugh: :gheyfight: :ghey:

girllover

I had worst accident ever in my life and i'm still here because of tsx why would belive to institute look at real deal.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25462

Colin

I'm guessing the NHSTA is trying to encourage the addition of active head restraints. Encourage those with them, and dog those without. Readers of thsii thread shoud be aware that we're talking about potential whiplash injuries, and not the ability of the car to protect occupants from crushing

waterrockets

...like my wife's Volvo

I'm glad the kids spend more miles in that Volvo than my TSX.

jiggaman

yep !!!

03CoupeV6

Why is that? The TSX probably meets or exceeds the Volvo's scores in every other category and if they're riding in the rear seat or they're too short to touch the headrest in the front then this test is moot.

This isn't a test of how the body of the car absorbs a rear end collision. The car isn't even tested, the seat is removed and tested on a sled. Most cars fail this but to me, I don't take it too seriously.

ChicagoTony

check data from these on the same page, all had poor rating:

Audi A/S 4
BMW 3/5 series
Cadillac CTS
all infinitis
etc.