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Old 11-22-2004, 04:56 PM
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AWD JDM Accord question

Does anyone know what kind of AWD system the JDM Accord has? Is it similar to the system on the Pilot (fwd until a slip is detected) or is it more like the systems on the A4 or a Subaru (permanent AWD)? Any info is appreciated.
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My guess would be the same system as the AWD Pilot and CR-V has.

Certainly not SH-AWD..
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JDM accord???
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Originally Posted by cruzingsilver
JDM accord???
The CL7 or CL9. I think the one with AWD is a CL7 but don't quote me on that.
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cruz... JDM = Japan Domestic Market, in other words not for sale in North America.
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its a CL9, CL7 is only the Euro-R no, options on that.

Honda calls it 4-wheel drive, sounds more like it transfers power only when slipping
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damn awd accord.. sounds fun
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We need someone who can read Japanese to visit the Japan Honda web site to tell us what it says about the AWD system. I doubt its a very complex system. Nothing like SH-AWD. My question is if it would bolt into the TSX since they are very similar cars. They even list AWD with the 2.4L.
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get real guys, why would AWD be worth the cost to source a transmission, install and void your warranty, add weight to the TSX and do you really need AWD for 200hp?
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No, but you might want it for use with a supercharger and higher horsepower
applications where torque steer might become a problem. Seriously though, I'm just curious what kind of system it is. My guess is similar to the Real Time 4-wheel drive on the CRV & Element.
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It's the same RealTime 4WD system
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i didnt' even know the jdm accord came w/ all wheel drive?!?

i'm confused. but dont really care. i agree. awd for 200hp? not worth it.
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Originally Posted by sauceman
My guess would be the same system as the AWD Pilot and CR-V has.

Certainly not SH-AWD..
That would be my guess, too...
But, didn't they test SH-AWS on JDM Inspire (US Accord)? I saw a video clip somewhere where they were using Inspire for a testbed... If they used the same platform for Inspire and JDM Accord, then I guess it could be possible..

But (another but), I doubt they'll put SH-AWD (or any AWD) on JDM Accord or TSX, especially with 200 hp engine.. That will make 0-60 time for 5AT really 3.5 minutes..
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The Euro R dosent even push out 200 hp i think, however its got torque like crazy....and as Caroll Shelby said: "Horsepower Sells cars....But torque wins races".....

And AWD would be good in the TSX...with a boost of HP...lets say 260 HP....210 ftlbs...and an AWD system to a 6 speed manual....oooh....that would be nice
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Actually you've got that backwards. The Euro-R puts out less torque than the TSX but more HP at higher RPM.

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7971
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oops...sorry...was thinking of some earlier specs I had read, and forgot they were in Different Units...
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Originally Posted by omelette
It's the same RealTime 4WD system
You're pretty sure about that? In that case, most of the components could come from a CRV except things like the drive shaft due to length.
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Isn't the K20A in the EuroR just the same K20A in the DC5R??
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Originally Posted by supraken
Isn't the K20A in the EuroR just the same K20A in the DC5R??
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Originally Posted by Type-S RPh
You're pretty sure about that? In that case, most of the components could come from a CRV except things like the drive shaft due to length.
Looking through the honda.co.jp website. They only had general descriptions for the RealTime 4WD and the SH-AWD. The Accord page lists the Accord as 4WD, I didnt find any other type of 4WD system, except this article (link) about Honda's 4WD debuting in 1983 ...I didn't bother reading it though.
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well guys, the JDM AWD Accord is for the option for the base model only.(160hp K24 with ugly 15" wheel covers).
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what's the big deal , if any, with RL's SH-AWD ?
How is it different from the other makers ?
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There's quite a lot of difference really. The biggest change is the magnetic couples that transfer the exact amount of torque to the appropriate wheel. http://world.honda.com/HDTV/news/2004-4040401a/
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Originally Posted by xizor
its a CL9, CL7 is only the Euro-R no, options on that.
That's not true.

Here's the breakdown on the chassis codes for JDM Accords.

Sedans:
CL7 - All 2.0L FWD Accords, that's including the Euro-R
CL8 - All 2.0L AWD Accords
CL9 - All 2.4L Accords (FWD only, not available with AWD)

Wagons:
CM1 - 2.0L Accords (FWD only)
CM2 - 2.4L Accords (FWD only)
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Originally Posted by vwong
Wagons:
CM1 - 2.0L Accords (FWD only)
CM2 - 2.4L Accords (FWD only)

There's also a CM3 chassis for the Wagon which is 2.4L and 4WD

http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/a...index.html#4wd
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