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Old 12-16-2004 | 07:32 PM
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Automatic V. 6 Speed Manual

I fell in love w/ a silver TSX. My only issue is whether I should get an Automatic OR 6 speed Manual. Advice & feedback welcomed!

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Old 12-16-2004 | 07:34 PM
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Thats a no brainer, 6 spd!
Old 12-16-2004 | 07:36 PM
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This has been covered a lot before. Have you ever owned a manual before? I enjoy my 6MT and I think a lot of other people here do also, but we all tend to be pretty biased. Read these:

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7084

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=416
Old 12-16-2004 | 07:37 PM
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There is no right answer to that question. Look deep within your soul and choose one.
Old 12-16-2004 | 07:48 PM
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At least you can't screw it up. It's a win-win.
Old 12-16-2004 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by wsklar
There is no right answer to that question. Look deep within your soul and choose one.

right, look deep into your soul and choose the one that suits you... just be sure you choose the 6mt

but seriously, choose what suits you best. the 6mt is great IMHO, however, I also had the comptech shortshifter installed which just makes it that much better. I highly recommend it if you do get the 6mt
Old 12-16-2004 | 08:06 PM
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5AT=riding
6MT=driving

Sorry, couldn't resist.
Old 12-16-2004 | 08:29 PM
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Look at all these 's pressing for MT
Old 12-16-2004 | 08:55 PM
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I have to say that the 6MT is the easiest and smoothest transmission I have ever driven. It is a blast to drive. A big reason I got the TSX 6mt over the G35 6mt was because the transmission was way better. I drive a lot in the various cities for my job and I have never said "I should have got an auto". I had a 98 Maxima SE 5MT and the TSX tranny blows it away. Like someone said, either way you can not make a bad decision. Good Luck!
Old 12-16-2004 | 08:57 PM
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I have been searching deep within my soul...I think I'm leaning towards an MT...! Thanks so much for your feedback..More welcomed.

Louie Louie
Old 12-16-2004 | 09:01 PM
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the post above is right, this car has one of the best shifters on the market - AT ANY PRICE! If you enjoy driving a manual, then you have to give it a shot. Now if you live in a big city and will be sitting in stop & go traffic all day, that may dictate your choice. But if you're basically on the open road, go with the stick. I did and love it.
Old 12-16-2004 | 09:53 PM
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At age 24, I bought a MT. At age 44, I bought an AT.

I have the 5AT and I love the SportShifter. The AT gives you one less gear, lower gear ratios (higher gearing) and slightly less acceleration. In my case, the MT would produce lower gas mileage; so the AT also gives me better gas mileage.

I like the convenience of an AT, alone with the ability to have more use of my right hand for handling a coffee cup or coke can.

I don't advise using a cell phone while driving, but if you are of those that do, then it is a no brainer; only the AT will do.

The AT gives you the best of both worlds; the ability to use it as a fully automatic and the ability to shift yourself. Unlike some cars, the SportShift mode of the TSX will not automatically upshift as the RPM's increase. You can bounce it right off the rev limiter in any gear.

The only grip I have with the SportShifter is that I find the direction to be reversed of what it should be.

I may be completely wrong, but I tend to think that an AT will have a little better value as a trade-in, or on the used car market, since most shoppers (about 60 percent) are interested in the AT.

I choose AT and have not regretted it for a minute. It is interesting that with many brands, the AT is an extra cost option ($1,000-$1,500), but not with the TSX. I developed, many years ago, the technique of using my left foot for braking and my right for throttle, so the AT is a perfect fit for having quick reflexes for braking and for holding position at traffic lights on steep inclines (and, it is a lot easier, for me, than the heel-and-toe technique).
Old 12-16-2004 | 10:05 PM
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As long as I am on a flat surface, I am happy with my 6MT even stuck in traffic. But I guess I tend to leave too much room in front of me during the stop-and-go traffic and others cut into it from time to time. Other than that, it's cool.

Though I could not imagin what it would be like being in the bumper-to-bumper traffic on a sloped section.
Old 12-16-2004 | 10:21 PM
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6MT 6MT

IBTL

Old 12-16-2004 | 11:57 PM
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i love the 6MT in the tsx.

the AT in the tsx, as well as every other AT i have driven, always feels like it is in too high of a gear, and it's hard to control the throttle to go exactly the right speed that you are seeking.

congrats on the great tranny choice. please join the SSM TSX Drivers Unite thread, and if you plan to mod, please post pics in the modified tsx gallery.



btw, learn how to use the trout.

Old 12-17-2004 | 12:24 AM
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I very much appreciate your input. I want the car NOW, but no manuals are available at the dealership . I guess the 6m is worth the wait. Anyone know how long it takes? Someone said as little as 24hrs(from another dealer). Live in S. California.
Thanks again
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Old 12-17-2004 | 12:29 AM
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Also, Jim makes a great point about the cellphone issue!
Thanks
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Old 12-17-2004 | 12:50 AM
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What's the main purpose of the car? Fun/commuting/traffic/etc.

If you want a commuter and go through heavy stop/go traffic...want to have a free hand to eat/cellphonedial/etc. (responsibly).. go with an AT.

If you want more fun, go through stop/go less traffic, sports car feel.... get an MT

IMO of course
Old 12-17-2004 | 02:37 AM
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Doesnt the AT have a feature where the transmission can also be shifted manually??

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Old 12-17-2004 | 02:49 AM
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Look ma, another MT vs. AT thread.
Old 12-17-2004 | 05:33 AM
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Look ma, another MT vs. AT thread.
Wait till we get other choices like CVT or sequential.
Old 12-17-2004 | 08:14 AM
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I would have gotten a 6MT if it wasn't for my wife...who can't drive stick
Old 12-17-2004 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by palmspringsesq
Doesnt the AT have a feature where the transmission can also be shifted manually??

Louie
Still not the same as an MT.
Old 12-17-2004 | 08:57 AM
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It's simple, like i mentioned before. Get the 5AT. 0-60 3.6 seconds.
Old 12-17-2004 | 09:04 AM
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6 gears>5 gears
Old 12-17-2004 | 09:06 AM
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Both transmissions are exceptional. The 6MT is the best available on the market at practically any price range. I like Honda MTs better than I like the MT in the Ferraris and Lambos that I've driven.

The AT is also one of the best on the market. Smooth shifts in regular driving, fairly intelligent algorithm for calculating shifts, holds the gears when it needs to, and gives you the option of manual shifting, which provides sufficiently quick shifts (faster than any other AT based sequential shifter that I've driven).

It's really just up to what you need in a car. I chose the AT mostly because I was planning on unloading the car on my brother, but it looks like that may not happen. Still, I don't mind the AT at all and it's still a fun car to drive.
Old 12-17-2004 | 09:45 AM
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If you are in traffic a lot (commuting like me) then you MUST get an AT. If you are not sitting in traffic a lot, go with the 6mt.

My left leg is thanking me for going from a 5sp prelude SH to a 5AT TSX.
Old 12-17-2004 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim Holloman
At age 24, I bought a MT. At age 44, I bought an AT.

I have the 5AT and I love the SportShifter. The AT gives you one less gear, lower gear ratios (higher gearing) and slightly less acceleration. In my case, the MT would produce lower gas mileage; so the AT also gives me better gas mileage.

I like the convenience of an AT, alone with the ability to have more use of my right hand for handling a coffee cup or coke can.

I don't advise using a cell phone while driving, but if you are of those that do, then it is a no brainer; only the AT will do.

The AT gives you the best of both worlds; the ability to use it as a fully automatic and the ability to shift yourself. Unlike some cars, the SportShift mode of the TSX will not automatically upshift as the RPM's increase. You can bounce it right off the rev limiter in any gear.

The only grip I have with the SportShifter is that I find the direction to be reversed of what it should be.

I may be completely wrong, but I tend to think that an AT will have a little better value as a trade-in, or on the used car market, since most shoppers (about 60 percent) are interested in the AT.

I choose AT and have not regretted it for a minute. It is interesting that with many brands, the AT is an extra cost option ($1,000-$1,500), but not with the TSX. I developed, many years ago, the technique of using my left foot for braking and my right for throttle, so the AT is a perfect fit for having quick reflexes for braking and for holding position at traffic lights on steep inclines (and, it is a lot easier, for me, than the heel-and-toe technique).

Old 12-17-2004 | 10:29 AM
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This is my first MT, and I loooooove it! But seriously, it's up to you, not us...although I did have my neighbor call me his hero b/c my car is a 6MT :-)
Old 12-17-2004 | 10:42 AM
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With the traffic in southern california, I recommend the AT. I've always driven MT in the past but the traffic sucks so bad in so cal that MT is just a pain in the ass, it's not fun anymore.
Old 12-17-2004 | 01:18 PM
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Get the 6MT unless you drive serious traffic ALL THE TIME. I wish I had paid heed to this advice. The 5AT is good, but it is no stick.
Old 12-17-2004 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by vietazntsx
I would have gotten a 6MT if it wasn't for my wife...who can't drive stick
Exactly! Although she has only driven it 2 times since I bought in July '04, it was such a PIA with my old manual car since she could not drive it.
Although to be totally honest, I'm not sure that I would have gotten the 6M anyway. My 30 minute commute can be a bit rough and I've found that I've gotten lazy in my old age and don't always want to shift.
Guess, I should save some bones and buy me a 3rd car that is a manual
Old 12-17-2004 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by GIBSON6594
6 gears>5 gears
3 pedals > 2 pedals
Old 12-17-2004 | 06:33 PM
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After searching deep within my soul, and given the fact that I am 44 and have a bit of arthristis on my left hip, I've decided on the AT. I testdrove it and had a blast w/ the AT and sportshifter. Hope i made the right choice. If it were not for the sportshifter feature I would of gone w/ the MT.
Thanks again and look forward to having my new Silver STX w/ Navi. in about 10 days!
Old 12-17-2004 | 06:57 PM
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After much thought and searching within my soul, and also due to the fact that I am 44 and have a bit of arthritis on my left hip, I've decided on the AT. I test drove the AT today and had a blast w/ the auto shifter. I hope I made the right choice. Its Silver Satin w/ Navigation. Its on it's way from Japan and hope to have it in about 10 days!

Thanks again for your feedback, it is much appreciated
Louis
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Originally Posted by palmspringsesq
After much thought and searching within my soul, and also due to the fact that I am 44 and have a bit of arthritis on my left hip, I've decided on the AT. I test drove the AT today and had a blast w/ the auto shifter. I hope I made the right choice. Its Silver Satin w/ Navigation. Its on it's way from Japan and hope to have it in about 10 days!

Thanks again for your feedback, it is much appreciated
Louis
Congrats on the choice.

You'll enjoy owning the car.
Old 12-18-2004 | 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by palmspringsesq
After much thought and searching within my soul, and also due to the fact that I am 44 and have a bit of arthritis on my left hip, I've decided on the AT. I test drove the AT today and had a blast w/ the auto shifter. I hope I made the right choice. Its Silver Satin w/ Navigation. Its on it's way from Japan and hope to have it in about 10 days!

Thanks again for your feedback, it is much appreciated
Louis
Congrats on your purchase!!!
Old 12-20-2004 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by palmspringsesq
After much thought and searching within my soul, and also due to the fact that I am 44 and have a bit of arthritis on my left hip, I've decided on the AT. I test drove the AT today and had a blast w/ the auto shifter. I hope I made the right choice. Its Silver Satin w/ Navigation. Its on it's way from Japan and hope to have it in about 10 days!

Thanks again for your feedback, it is much appreciated
Louis

Congratulations on your purchase.
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