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Old 08-27-2006, 12:05 PM
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Anybody else finding the starter a bit harsh?

Hi Gang,

I have 200KM on my 06 TSX and I have driven 3 different TSXs in total. In all of them I found the starter very harsh and noisy. In fact my 99 Civic and our 93 Camry are much smoother as I turn the ignition on them.

I'm writing a review on TSX somewhere and I have to list a few CONS of the car. Thought I'd add this one too.

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Old 08-27-2006, 12:09 PM
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It's suppossed to be reducing emissions as it starts. Could that be why you find it harsh?
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do a search this has been talked about..

something to do with high compression and premium fuel..

oh and i read about the fuel emissions thing also.
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i think it also takes awhile to start up.
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Originally Posted by jesuswalks
i think it also takes awhile to start up.
Ya I've noticed it needs to turn over 5-6 times before the engine starts up. I guess this is normal? was a bit scared that there might be something wrong with my starter since my car is only a couple days old. I'm use to cars starting up after 2-3 turns.
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Originally Posted by derbaff
It's suppossed to be reducing emissions as it starts. Could that be why you find it harsh?

I'd do a search before listing it as a con in a review. It's even written up in the owner's manual.
Old 08-27-2006, 10:07 PM
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yeah thanks guys, I'm not going to list it in the CON list as it really isn't something to be concerned about. I'm very used to Honda's quick and smooth start, and that's why I was surprised by TSX's hesitant roll.
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Originally Posted by tinter
Ya I've noticed it needs to turn over 5-6 times before the engine starts up. I guess this is normal? was a bit scared that there might be something wrong with my starter since my car is only a couple days old. I'm use to cars starting up after 2-3 turns.
Mine takes about 4 turns. The latest 06 models in Australia have a different starter sound and start with only 2-3 turns.
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Also the TSX engine has a long stroke, this makes it harder to start.

99 mm stroke in the TSX vs. the 86 in the TL.

The 1986 Legends was 75 mm
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so is there a way to get the tsx so start up quicker?
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Originally Posted by mltk53
so is there a way to get the tsx so start up quicker?
I'll be changing my battery to one with a higher CCA rating. Will update this thread on whether it helps the car on starting.
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apparently it's a function of the ECU to keep the car from starting quickly helping to reduce emissions...

I would think that changing the battery wouldn't make it start quicker, as the ECU is what controls the car's start...
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I've had starters before, and I've found them all to be harsh, if what you mean that it seems like the engine jumps roughly on the mounts when you start it from the keys.
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This is the least of my worries
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Originally Posted by fdl
This is the least of my worries

What worries?
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It would be nice if the all new TSX would have a push button start.
Old 08-31-2006, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
Also the TSX engine has a long stroke, this makes it harder to start.

99 mm stroke in the TSX vs. the 86 in the TL.

The 1986 Legends was 75 mm


You beat me to it. The long stoke produces better low-end power, but come at the expense of smooth starting and ability to rev without power dropping.

You could always get a stroker kit.
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Originally Posted by cibs
apparently it's a function of the ECU to keep the car from starting quickly helping to reduce emissions...

I would think that changing the battery wouldn't make it start quicker, as the ECU is what controls the car's start...
AUDM 2006 models start quicker. I have to change my battery anyway, so it'll be a good observation.
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Originally Posted by aaronng
AUDM 2006 models start quicker. I have to change my battery anyway, so it'll be a good observation.

Do you have the 2.4L or 2.0L in your AUDM 2006?
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The nitpickers are coming out again.

This thread is teh stoopid.
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Originally Posted by fdl
This is the least of my worries
Originally Posted by dom
What worries?
People realizing that he's really not a celebrity ?
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Originally Posted by mrgold35
Do you have the 2.4L or 2.0L in your AUDM 2006?
2.4L
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Originally Posted by joerockt
The nitpickers are coming out again.

This thread is teh stoopid.
Yes and I'm sure all your 6519 posts have been nothing but 5-star quality posts.
Old 08-31-2006, 11:38 PM
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i noticed this too on my 06, i was scared but you guys relieved me
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I thought the same thing, only AFTER I bought the car. I never noticed it when I was at the dealer test driving any of the cars - but that could be because they often have it running before I get in.
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Originally Posted by IranBT
Yes and I'm sure all your 6519 posts have been nothing but 5-star quality posts.
All better then this :ghey: crap noob.
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