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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 02:15 PM
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31.5K for Non-Nav TSX

Here's my issue, I wonder if you guys might offer some advice.

I've been searching for a Royal Blue/Ebony 6MT Non-Nav for awhile, and I finally found one that's available.

In fact, it's the only one in the entire state of California!

They will only sell it at MSRP (28505) + 315 for the wheel locks, mud flaps, trunk tray, and floor mats.

My out the door price would be $31500!!!

I've read the price thread, and people are getting nav models for less than this! What do you think I should do? I really want the blue and the 6MT, but is it worth it?

Also this would include me flying, and then driving the car 400 miles home.
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 02:22 PM
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If you can wait 90 days, order it. Then the dealers are at your mercy. LA has been home to some great quotes that I've seen on this forum. Unfortunately for you, the emission standards make it hard (if not impossible) for Cali to trade with other states. I'm looking for 6MT/RBP/ebony w/navi and am resigned to ordering.
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 02:25 PM
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Which dealer is telling you this? I get the feeling that they are full of shit and the salesperson is trying to screw with you.
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by IlliNorge
If you can wait 90 days, order it. Then the dealers are at your mercy. LA has been home to some great quotes that I've seen on this forum. Unfortunately for you, the emission standards make it hard (if not impossible) for Cali to trade with other states. I'm looking for 6MT/RBP/ebony w/navi and am resigned to ordering.

Are Cali cars different (emissions wise) than cars from other states? I would think Honda made the car to be sold unchanged in all 50 states and Canada.
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 02:35 PM
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$31.5k OTD for a non-navi TSX. HEEELL NO!

Thats to much man.

You are in Orange County, shop around. You can get a non-navi TSX for $29k OTD in So cal!
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 02:36 PM
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yes, i too thought that, as long as the car is considered ULEV, it would be legal in CA. and, since CA does have very strict emission laws, ULEV would also be street legal for the entire US and canada.
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by dom
Are Cali cars different (emissions wise) than cars from other states? I would think Honda made the car to be sold unchanged in all 50 states and Canada.
I was told by a dealer that they can't trade cars from California because they have special emissions requirements.
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 02:38 PM
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Which dealer is telling you this? I get the feeling that they are full of shit and the salesperson is trying to screw with you.
Prestige Acura in Santa Rosa.

I have checked with several SoCal dealers, this is the *only* RBP/Ebony/6MT/NonNav in the state.

Are they full of shit? Maybe.

I love that blue, but is it worth getting raped on the price?
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 02:39 PM
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I don't think California bound TSXs have special emissions. The TSX is already a low emission vehicle. I think your delaer is yanking your chain.
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by gsrthomas
$31.5k OTD for a non-navi TSX. HEEELL NO!

Thats to much man.

You are in Orange County, shop around. You can get a non-navi TSX for $29k OTD in So cal!

Indeed, if I chose to get a CGP or NHP or Silver, I could negotiate easily. It's that damn blue. It's so nice, but for some reason CA dealers haven't been ordering them. I wonder why?
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 02:47 PM
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Have you tried Las Vegas, Phoenix, or Tucson dealers?
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 02:50 PM
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Negotiate a good deal on one and have one of the dealers steal one from the shipment that should be on its way across the pacific. They can trade for a specific color or package before the car reaches the port. It's a little more work for the dealer but if they really want the deal, they'll be happy to do it. There should be a new shipment of cars coming every few weeks so you shouldn't have to wait three months for the car. That's just ridiculous at this point.
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 02:51 PM
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I believe the dealer is yanking your chain......the TSX is a low emission vehicle. I remember looking in the manual that says my 04 passed California emissions.
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by jlukja
Have you tried Las Vegas, Phoenix, or Tucson dealers?
I haven't, but now that you mention it, I absolutely should.
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by afici0nad0
^

yes, i too thought that, as long as the car is considered ULEV, it would be legal in CA. and, since CA does have very strict emission laws, ULEV would also be street legal for the entire US and canada.
Unless something changed for '06, it ain't a ULEV, just LEV. Also, I'm not too sure that this has anything to do with CA emissions.
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 02:55 PM
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On the acura site, it says the TSX is a LEV-2 vehicle which I think is the Cali standard.
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 03:23 PM
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Since you're in Orange County call or email Bonnie (the Internet Sales Manager) at Norm Reeves Acura in Mission Viejo. She can tell you when/if she has that combo coming in. She was able to tell me approximately when the combo I wanted was coming in and I put a deposit down. Her delivery estimate was right on the money. She has been offering $500 over invoice to several of us on this board. To see the deal I got click on my username and read my previous posts.
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jlukja
I don't think California bound TSXs have special emissions. The TSX is already a low emission vehicle. I think your delaer is yanking your chain.
Definitely possible, although there is no motivation for him exclude cars that he could potentially sell to me. He also told me Honda will not budge from the 6.35% finance rate he quoted me even though my credit is over 750.
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by karoberts
Here's my issue, I wonder if you guys might offer some advice.

I've been searching for a Royal Blue/Ebony 6MT Non-Nav for awhile, and I finally found one that's available.

In fact, it's the only one in the entire state of California!

They will only sell it at MSRP (28505) + 315 for the wheel locks, mud flaps, trunk tray, and floor mats.

My out the door price would be $31500!!!

I've read the price thread, and people are getting nav models for less than this! What do you think I should do? I really want the blue and the 6MT, but is it worth it?

Also this would include me flying, and then driving the car 400 miles home.
I bought an 04 6MT with nav for only 24,8k OTD. Only $400 more than MSRP for non-Nav. It's an '04, but a great deal nonetheless. I'd search somewhere else. Maybe out of state even. The only thing is there's a clause in the registration for a vehicle being "imported" into Ca... It has to have 7500 mles on the odometer..
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by xingu
Since you're in Orange County call or email Bonnie (the Internet Sales Manager) at Norm Reeves Acura in Mission Viejo. She can tell you when/if she has that combo coming in. She was able to tell me approximately when the combo I wanted was coming in and I put a deposit down. Her delivery estimate was right on the money. She has been offering $500 over invoice to several of us on this board. To see the deal I got click on my username and read my previous posts.
I have been talking with Bonnie, but she doesn't have an RBP/6MT on the way.
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 04:56 PM
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it's not a very good deal, but i think ultimately it is up to you if you really want that combo and don't want to wait.
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 05:04 PM
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btw, a few months ago i saw a white exterior, tan w/wood trim interior 2005 TSX w/ navi going for $33k (before TTL) in carlsbad, california... this was the last TSX they had at that time... their demo car... *yikes*
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by karoberts
They will only sell it at MSRP (28505) + 315 for the wheel locks, mud flaps, trunk tray, and floor mats.
I am not good for barginning the price of a car. So, what I always do is to bargin the interest rate. I am not paying cash anyway. So, I always look at the bottom line. A thoursand dollar off the price of the car is the same as a thoursand dollar off the interest. Not much different to me.

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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 05:27 PM
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Have a dealer you like working with look ahead to the list of incoming cars. I'm in Utah and I ordered the exact car you want and it was due to be here at the end of February. I have since ordered a different combo (RBP/Nav/Parchment) so the vehicle I ordered should be available for a dock trade. Regarding the California emissions, I was told all TSXs are 50-state vehicles, meaning there is no difference between a California TSX and any other U.S. TSX. Good luck
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Trophyhead
Have a dealer you like working with look ahead to the list of incoming cars. I'm in Utah and I ordered the exact car you want and it was due to be here at the end of February. I have since ordered a different combo (RBP/Nav/Parchment) so the vehicle I ordered should be available for a dock trade. Regarding the California emissions, I was told all TSXs are 50-state vehicles, meaning there is no difference between a California TSX and any other U.S. TSX. Good luck
Thanks, I'll look into that. By the way, what dealer was your order going to?
I might need that info.
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 06:19 PM
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Yo, Karoberts I;m from San Francisco i got my 2005 tsx Blk/Blk oredered with Navi. for below sticker price right around $27,000 to $28,000
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by IlliNorge
I was told by a dealer that they can't trade cars from California because they have special emissions requirements.
The TSX is listed as a 50 state emission vehicle and can be sold straight from the factory in all 50 states. I checked into this because I was going to purchase out of state and bring it back into CA. You can purchase the TSX in any state and bring it into CA without emission issues.

And 31.5 OTD for a non-navi TSX is insane. I paid that much OTD for a navi model 3 weeks ago.
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 10:31 PM
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If a dealer knows you WANT a car they have and specifically are endeared to a specific color they are sometimes less willing to part with it (for you) for a good deal. If you had walked in there just iinterested in the checking out the TSX and left unsure and then came back and wanted to talk prices and in the end mentioned u wanted a specific color they "may" have not seen you as a HALO car hunter and might have dealt more reasonably with you.

It's like walking into the dealer and saying "Oh my GOD i HAVE to buy THAT car!" They will begin grinning from ear to ear and see $$ in their eyes.
and of course not all dealers are like that.....right Colin?
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 11:02 PM
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Thanks, I'll look into that. By the way, what dealer was your order going to?
I might need that info.
Mike Hale Acura in Salt Lake City. Hope that helps. Good luck!
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 11:17 AM
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http://www.acura-tsx.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27849

Check out my thread on my car. I asked about a stick, and they said they could do a dealer trade for a stick at my price; however, I got an auto.
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by karoberts
Prestige Acura in Santa Rosa.

I have checked with several SoCal dealers, this is the *only* RBP/Ebony/6MT/NonNav in the state.
stupid question but...
How about "RBP/Ebony/6MT/Nav" ???
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by huckleberry
stupid question but...
How about "RBP/Ebony/6MT/Nav" ???
Not a stupid question at all.

Mission Viejo has one with Nav coming in, but it's already sold. And as far as I know, that's the only one in CA of that type as well.
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