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Old Jul 31, 2005 | 11:08 PM
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Talking 2006 TSX Info...

Hi Guys and Girls,
New 2006 info is available on the Vtec.net forums courtesy of Jeff. Just thought you all would be interested! All I can say is, some TL items are trickling down to the TSX!!!

Examples are:
Multi-Info Display
Memory Seats!
Better Nav with............HANDSFREE LINK!!


Later!
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Old Jul 31, 2005 | 11:25 PM
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.... and the linky is?
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Old Jul 31, 2005 | 11:26 PM
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TSX

The TSX has built a strong following among sports sedan buyers, won a plethora of awards (including being twice named to Car & Driver’s 10Best Cars list) and gained a reputation for being both stylish and fun to drive. For 2006, Acura made some dynamic changes to the TSX to enhance its performance, make the styling even sportier and increase interior comfort. The result is a sports sedan that is more luxurious, more aggressive-looking and even more fun to drive.
Modifications to the intake and exhaust systems were made to the TSX’s 2.4-liter i-VTEC™ four cylinder engine to boost horsepower to 205 hp SAE net (Rev 8/04). Interior enhancements include an upgraded navigation system, the HandsFreeLink™ wireless telephone interface, and a digital media auxiliary jack located in the center console for iPod® and MP3 players to name a few.

Outside, the TSX gets sporty, redesigned front and rear fascias, new sidesills, redesigned alloy wheels and standard integrated fog lamps.

Powertrain

Horsepower increased to 205 SAE net (Rev 8/04) @ 7000 rpm
Torque increased to 164 lbs-ft. SAE net (Rev 8/04) @ 4500 rpm
Larger intake valves
Increased valve timing and lift
Increased intake and exhaust flow
Reduced engine pumping losses
Chassis

Electronic Brake Assist
Increased rigidity of upper A-arm reduces NVH
Exterior Styling

Restyled hood and grille
Redesigned headlights and combination taillights
Redesigned front and rear bumpers
Fog lamps are integrated into the lower bumper
More pronounced side sills
New nine-spoke alloy wheels
Flat wiper blades increase visibility and reduce wind noise
Four new exterior colors: Alabaster Silver Metallic replaces Satin Silver, Glacier Blue Metallic replaces Meteor Silver Metallic, and Deep Green Pearl, and Royal Blue Pearl are added
Interior

2-position memory for driver’s seat
Auxiliary audio jack in center console for digital music players
HandsFreeLink™ wireless telephone interface
Sports steering wheel
Multi-info display
New meter face
New wood-patterned trim for models with Parchment interior
Metallic garnish added to shift knob.
Smart Maintenance system
Enhanced Acura Navigation System (optional)
Larger buttons and fonts
Faster processing speed
Points of Interest (POI) database increased to 7 million
HandsFreeLink calling to POI
More voice recognition commands (653)
Zagat restaurant guide
Exit ramp services feature
Enhanced in-glass antennae for improved radio reception
205 HP??
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Old Jul 31, 2005 | 11:26 PM
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Hmm... I might just trade mine in for the 2006... this time with the Navi.

Btw, why is the tq dropped to 164 from 166?
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Old Jul 31, 2005 | 11:32 PM
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Hmm... I might just trade mine in for the 2006... this time with the Navi.

Btw, why is the tq dropped to 164 from 166?
"For the 2006 model year, all Acura horsepower and torque specifications have been updated to reflect revised Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) J1349 (Rev 8/04) net calculations that went into effect in January of 2005. These new calculations reflect a number of significant changes in the way horsepower and torque are measured and may cause SAE net horsepower and torque totals published in 2006 media materials to differ from the figures published in previous years. To avoid confusion, all 2006 Acura press materials will specify “SAE net (Rev 8/04”) after all horsepower and torque figures to denote adherence to the new standards."

http://vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=384913
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Old Jul 31, 2005 | 11:32 PM
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Can't believe they redesigned it already...Dyin to see what its going to look like.
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Old Jul 31, 2005 | 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Bmerc89
"For the 2006 model year, all Acura horsepower and torque specifications have been updated to reflect revised Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) J1349 (Rev 8/04) net calculations that went into effect in January of 2005. These new calculations reflect a number of significant changes in the way horsepower and torque are measured and may cause SAE net horsepower and torque totals published in 2006 media materials to differ from the figures published in previous years. To avoid confusion, all 2006 Acura press materials will specify “SAE net (Rev 8/04”) after all horsepower and torque figures to denote adherence to the new standards."

http://vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=384913
I'm interested to know where this "net hp" is being calculated. Crank hp or Whp ?
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Old Jul 31, 2005 | 11:44 PM
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2-position memory for driver’s seat
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Old Jul 31, 2005 | 11:47 PM
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(troll speaking)... DANG... so much good stuff on the inside, wonder how the redesign will look though
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by JTso
I'm interested to know where this "net hp" is being calculated. Crank hp or Whp ?
http://neptune.spacebears.com/opine/horsepwr.html

"SAE Net Horspower In 1972, American manufacturers phased in SAE net horsepower. This is the standard on which current American ratings are based. This rating is measured at the flywheel, on an engine dyno, but the engine is tested with all accessories installed, including a full exhaust system, all pumps, the alternator, the starter, and emissions controls. Both SAE net and SAE gross horsepower test procedures are documented in Society of Automotive Engineers standard J1349. Because SAE net is so common, this is the standard we will use to compare all others."

The J1349 is what Acura is following. Essentially the SAME as prior HP figures, but this time stated to be within J1349 spec (all accessories on, ie A/C, power steering pump, alternator, etc, etc... not JUST the engine).

IMO, this is the same method of measuring as before, just with a stated-standard attached to it because of the recent RX-8 problem with them overstating their HP, etc...

Also IMO, the list of features for the '06 TSX doesn't seem THAT much better to warrant any trade-ups. I am happy without NAV, and won't go with NAV. I'd only use it for the non-navigation-related crap anyhow. As for the memory seats, who cares - I'm the only one that drives it. Exterior styling? What's to change? I love it as-is!

Add an Injen CAI and a hondata and you'll stomp all over the '06 TSX by the looks of it. Although, a cam swap might be in order if they tinkered with that.

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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by joerockt
Can't believe they redesigned it already...Dyin to see what its going to look like.
Agreed, it's earlier then normal. Wonder if we'll be able to swap parts like on the Integra.

:kind of annoyed at the lack of pictures:
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by tony4311
Wonder if we'll be able to swap parts like on the Integra.


Can't wait to see pics
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 01:08 AM
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More power
Memory seat
Improved Navi
Bluetooth
Restyled grille bumper


I'm excited that TSX is getting better..but I won't have it...I wonder how much the price will differ from 05?
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 01:16 AM
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Wow! Lots of stuff.
Anyone have an idea when all of this stuff will come out?
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 01:26 AM
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I'd love to see pictures of the new colors as well as the interior. Should be interesting. It cheeses me that they finally decided to add an "Auxiliary audio jack in center console for digital music players".
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 01:31 AM
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I'm soooooooo glad I decided to wait to get a tsx. This new list of features is exactly what I was hopin they would add and more!

I'm just waiting for pictures too... I really like the current rims, I hope the new ones are good too. Lookin forward to seeing what the new colors look like too!
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 01:57 AM
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13 spoke stock rims? Something like that!

Lets hope that the Aspec package goes down in price. My acura dealer told me they sold only 1 so far! Sad!
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 02:08 AM
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I like my 05 TSX, cause the new 06 Design might look Gay

Glad to hear the new changes, But at the same time, GLAD that I have the 2005 TSX, because I really like the 05 exterior/interior, and I might not like the new design of 2006, even though the inside features sounds good. :roll eyes:
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 02:44 AM
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wth?? why are they restyling the damn car.. i'm sorta pissed
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 02:52 AM
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dont forget the JDM Accord was first introduced in late 02 .. ~ so it's abt time to redeisgn ..
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 02:54 AM
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i guess i don't see any horse bump up since tsx IS around 205... and less torque?? so just remodelling???? why??
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 03:08 AM
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dagnabit... im pissed. i didnt think acura would make this many changes/additions to the 06 model and thats y i went ahead with the 05.
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 03:09 AM
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This is the TSX MMC year, it will run a couple more years, then, will redesign. in 08.

Though this sounds like a major MMC mind you, not only new front and rear ends, they made interior dash/cluster changes ... which was my only nitpick I had on the 05's....
mmmm
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 03:17 AM
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As far as the HP changes, its making things confusing, but we are seeing the REAL HP figures for all cars, not a rounded number all manufacturers fudge a little to look a lil better than the competition.

Looking at the RSX, Acura rated the 05 K20Z engine 210 hp, now its only 201 SAE hp. loss of 9 horses....

Now here with the TSX, it received a reported 10 hp bump, but with the new figures rates 205 SAE hp making it more like 212 hp (rounded to 215) under the old system.

The old 05 K24 was rated 200 hp under the old system but was more like 192 SAE hp under the new.
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 03:56 AM
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i hope its not MAJOR change cuz i'd be pissed !!
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Alin10123
Wow! Lots of stuff.
Anyone have an idea when all of this stuff will come out?
So...nobody has any idea at around when this is going to come out? I dont think it should be November or something like that. I remember trying to shop for one of the "last remaining" models towards the beggining of November and they were practically ALL gone. So i'm going to assume that maybe September or October?
Anyone have any pics yet? Or no? There has to be some spy shots.
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 04:53 AM
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oh damn! now they added the mp3 jack, seats, new navi, and bluetooth?!?!? and styling changes - bishes!!

note to self: never buy 1st year acura models again.
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 04:58 AM
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Pics!
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 05:02 AM
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oh damn! now they added the mp3 jack, seats, new navi, and bluetooth?!?!? and styling changes - bishes!!

note to self: never buy 1st year acura models again.

I'm starting to get pissed about this, thanks Honda.
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 06:08 AM
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Wow. Thats a crap load of stuff they added. I guess the new IS forces acura to add this stuff.

For the guys that are angry... cars are kinda like computers, deal with it.
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 06:27 AM
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Damn all these things that I wanted in the TL that I could justify....
I just hope the price is more than what I paid for my 04 last year so its not justified for me to trade up.
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 08:05 AM
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These changes don't really upset me, an extra 5-10 horses? I get that with the CAI already anyway. Upgraded navi? Unless it has real time traffic like the RL, how much can the upgrade really be? Memory seats are a bit overrated to me, but thats just a personal thing. I would like to have the bluetooth though.

I doubt the style changes are gonna make the car look drastically better, when i look at previous style upgrades Honda has done, i'm not all that impressed...i'm just happy that Honda is improving the cars and not sitting back and letting Lexus and BMW run away.
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 08:11 AM
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Anyone getting an 06 can at least boast that it has more HP (1) than the IS250.

If the IS250 price of $27,xxx for the base IS250 is true, Acura won't be able to raise the price much. It seems like with every makeover you get a better car for about the same amount of money. With all of these upgardes maybe the resales of current TSX will come down a bit off some really high figures.

Biker, who was thinking of getting a low milage used 05 but may have to consider an 06 now.
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 08:15 AM
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oh no ~~ bad news to 05 owner
this is worse than 10 hp gain

i hope the 06 is ugly hahaha
this is probably the last time i buy honda stuff......
toyota don't change their stuff that quickly...i meant i don't mind the interior or power +
but wtf they doing by changing exterior
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 08:17 AM
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Dang it, I would have liked all those upgrades, but I'll be fine..

Bluetooth would be sweet, but I'll live with an earpiece..

I'm not sure what upgrades they will give with the navi, so I can't speak on that..

An MP3 jack would be nice, but I would actually prefer one to be hidden rather than have wires spewing from the head unit..

Sure it would have been nice to have those features built in, but life goes on..

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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by corey415
Wow. Thats a crap load of stuff they added. I guess the new IS forces acura to add this stuff.

For the guys that are angry... cars are kinda like computers, deal with it.
haha wtf...
you don't see Mercedes, bmw, audi, volvo change their style every two yrs XD
RSX now TSX crazy...

not even Toyota
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 08:19 AM
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Hopefully the HP/TQ are by the wheels. As for the redesigns....damn! I need pics.
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 08:34 AM
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i'm not mad, i'm slightly jealous 06 owners are getting a very good deal for their money, esp with the lexus is250 out next year. let's hope acura doesn't raise the msrp too much
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by laee3
i hope its not MAJOR change cuz i'd be pissed !!

werd me to! i just bought my 05 a week ago.
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by biker
Anyone getting an 06 can at least boast that it has more HP (1) than the IS250.

If the IS250 price of $27,xxx for the base IS250 is true, Acura won't be able to raise the price much. It seems like with every makeover you get a better car for about the same amount of money. With all of these upgardes maybe the resales of current TSX will come down a bit off some really high figures.

Biker, who was thinking of getting a low milage used 05 but may have to consider an 06 now.
Not sure about the new price. The changes from 04 to 05 were small, yet good. Heated mirrors, power passenger seat, lighted wheel buttons, etc.. for $500 more. Ofcourse, there are alot more 06 changes. I'd bet it's going to put it around $30k.
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