So I got this idea in my head and I need to know if anyone has tried anything like this before on this car. I searched the internet but didn't find anything close to what I would like to do. So i have a 2005 non-navi TSX, I'd like to purchase a navi dashboard piece (from acura?) and replace the radio and vents without having to remove the hvac controls. So my first question is do you think that part is possible?

After that I'd want to use the Acura navi dash with an aftermarket LCD (unless the new dash comes with a screen already mounted) and then install an aftermarket navi/sat radio/bells/whistles...

so first off, do you guys think buying the stock TSX navi dash would work? If not, does anyone make anything like that?

Thanks,

R.

 

No one has tried it. Most people just get the Acura mp3 attachment kit and put the aftermarket Navi HU in there.

This project would take a lot of fabrication. If you can't do it yourself, it will be very expensive to have someone else do it.

 

no it is not possible cause they are both on the same circuit board

 

So it isnt possible to keep the hvac controls and take out the radio and dash unit? I havent seen any photos of any clean looking install of an aftermarket LCD screen. Has anyone seen anything like that? I am interested to see what other people have done...


thanks.

 

it is not possible to take it out and stil have hvac controls

 

So what are my options if I want to take out the stock radio and put in an LCD with a navi system?

I appreciate the help guys, I cant find anything on the net about this stuff...

 

I think you guys misunderstood him........ he does not want to use any of the electronics with the stock navi panel. He just wants the face of it so he has the big opening for i guess a double din nav unit like the pioneer d1.

I think that is possible, but you will need to do some major fiberglass work on that dash panel.

I just dont think you can buy that panel without all the electronics

 

You would probably get more help with this in the audio and video section

 

no cause the control board that the lcd screen and all the audio controls and the A/C controls are all on the same electric board.

 

oh realli?? i am interested in taking out my stock headunit and replace it with a aftermarket navi .

 

So what exactly are my options? Do I have any besides *adding* the navi system to the dash? There is no way to take out the current radio component, leave in the hvac and add a navi LCD system?

Does anyone know of any photos I can look at where people have *added* a navi system without taking out the original radio?

Thanks for the help everyone!

 

not that this will help the starter of this thread because I have not completed it but... I plan on putting navigation system in my 2005. I am going to try to put a touchscreen lcd from ebay into the console near the bottom replacing the little storage bin and the power outlet and what not. I haven't figured it out exactly yet but I plan on trying. Anyone have any helpful information on removing the power supply part. I will still be using the power supply by having an inverter plugged into it behind the lcd.

 

It sucks there arent any aftermarket solutions for this without going completely custom. The $2,000 price tag for the navigation seemed steep for the features. I saw on here a guy who went non-navi to navi by buying the parts but I guess that wouldnt work as the inner workings are too interconnected?

hooraysimpsons, dont you think the empty compartment below the hvac controls is too low for an LCD screen? I have yet to see any photos of anyone putting an aftermarket navi/lcd screen into a non-navi TSX.

 

even on the non navi units?

 

I have the Pioneer N2 in my storage bin. I have taken updated photos for a long time, but click on my sig for pics. I've had this setup for almost a year now.

Also look for a thread by Rmpage. He has the N2 in his storage bin too.

 

So how much did all that run you? I like that setup alot. So you used the mp3 player connection kit? Does the flip out screen work out well? I was worried it would hit and/or not lay flush because of the rounded hvac controls directly above the storage bin. Does the stereo have an aux input for a 3rd component like a navi?

I think I would be happy with your installation, if I couldn't take out the stock dash.

 

The setup ran me about $1250-1300 for the just the AVIC-N2 and voice control/steering wheel remote. With the deck alone you'll get mp3/dvd/cd and navigation. If you want the extra accessories I have like Sirius, Ipod, and TV it will cost more.

I didn't use the mp3 attachment kit, but Rmpage did. You should look for his thread.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...hlight=pioneer

The screen is actually good there. I was worried it was going to be low, but I can see it great. The LCD screen on the N2 is really clear.

The screen does cover the HVAC controls in the middle. It sits really close and almost all the way up against them. It's not bad though, cuz you can still acess the temperature control and fan speed. Also the deck has a button that will put the screen down for 10 secs and then restore it.

The unit has an AUX input, plus much more. One of the advantages of going aftermarket is the expandability. It also has inputs for rear video camera, video input, IP_BUS inputs. With the IP_Bus components, you can daisy chain a bunch of components. I have the Ipod, Sirius, and TV tuner components all hooked up and controlled via the N2.

 

Might as well just convert the whole thng to Navi.........That thread was scary!

 

Ok so my question now is do you think it is possible to buy a navi dash enclosure from Acura? If so can I get it without the LCD screen in it? If not, would it be possible to buy another non-navi dash and cut it to fit a new LCD screen?

I wouldnt even know where to begin purchasing dashboards... any ideas?

 

Sure you can buy the navi dash from acura, the problem with getting it without the screen is that all the a/c controls, radio controls, and navi go through the screen, which is one big circuit board connecting it all. Why didnt you just buy your car with navi?

 

I want to buy a non-navi dash from Acura and cut it up to see if I can fit in an aftermarket LCD. Does anyone know how much a dash piece would cost?

I still am not sure why I cant take out the stereo and use the connectors with an adapter (if necessary) to an aftermarket LCD?

I didnt buy the Acura LCD b/c I thought it was too pricey for what it was and I knew I would want to tinker with it so I figured I'd go after market.

 

That's how I was too. I barely ever use my Navi. I know how to get where I'm going about 95% of time. I wanted a system that would allow me to expand, but still keep everything integrated, so that I didn't have like 5 different remotes and controls. Aftermarket has been the perfect solution for my needs.

 

As I understand by reading in this forum, the radio and a/c controls are integrated as one unit. So if you pull out the radio you will also remove your climate control.

 

here..... if you look closely the face of the radio and the face of the a/c control unt are one piece


http://www.acuraparts247.com/sunnysi...All&vinsrch=no

 

I see from the photo that the face of the radio and the face of the hvac are on the same piece but if I cut and reuse the dash piece wouldn't that work? Doesn't the radio connect to a wiring harness that is seperate from the hvac controls?

Or is the photo showing that the radio itself and the hvac controls are physically the same piece of electronics?

That would royally suck.

 

I would try to PM Flopez82. He was the member that did the non-navi to navi conversion on the TSX. I saw him post a day or two ago. He should have some definite answers for you. Also look into getting a Helms manual.

 

yeah but he did a factory navi upgrade.... roch wants to do an aftermarket in the factory location

 

Yeah, the biggest hurdle I have is if I can take out the stock radio and leave in the hvac controls. If I replace the stock radio with an aftermarket LCD most people seem to think I cant leave in the hvac controls...

 

I know that, but at least he is familar with which signals are present on each harness. Since he had to wire all of this up, he should be very familar with the pin layouts. Since Roch was asking if the HVAC and radio signals are on the same harness, Flopez82 would be the ideal person to ask. Flopez82 made his own wiring harnesses.

 

I dont think you will get around this........ it is one panel

 

 

There has to be a way to get an aftermarket LCD into that dash without losing the hvac controls.

I just wish I didnt have to tear my car apart to find out exactly how I could go about doing it. Maybe Ill buy that manual everyone seems to talk about here...

 

Dude you need to stop pondering the samething over and over again. You cant do it. You should have just bought the factory navi for $2000. That would have been an average of $40 a month added to your monthly payment, just my . Alot cheaper than trying to find someone to rebuild the circuit board to cut the radio out. If you really want something aftermarket in there you will have to go with a flip-up in the accessory bin area.

 

Dude you need to understand that building it is 80% of the fun. The stock navi is boring and over priced.

Saying that it is impossible and that I cant do it will just make me want to do it even more...its just how I am.

 

There is someone in the A/V section who is having StreetEffectz mount the Pioneer D1 in the storage bin area. The guy is suppose to take pics when he gets it installed.

How far are you from NY? If anyone, can do a custom job for the dash, it would be them. They do great work. Check out some of their pics threads in the A/V section. It would at least be worth it to get there professional opinion on what would be necessary to make your install happen.

Here's another option. What about mounting a screen in your visor, and then mounting a DVD/mp3/TV tuner like the Blaupunkt ME3 in the storage bin? Just throwing some ideas out there.

 

Did you take a look at my pics? I know building is most the fun, but you are talking about tearing apart the circuit board of an integrated radio and hvac controls, does that sound like something you really want to try? I have been in your position before. I did the upgrade from 2004 steering wheel controls to 2005. Everyone told me that it cant be done, and I accomplished it and they work great. But all I had to do was to get one extra wire into the steering wheel for the illumination. What you are talking about doing will take a specialist...... someone that knows how to build a circuit board, so they can ficure out how to cut up the factory so the radio can be removed and an open space is left to put an aftermarket unit.

Explain to me why the stock navi is boring and overpriced? And what unit are you trying to put in the factory location?

 

I did not look at your photos. So if you know that building is the best part why are you so quick to tell me it is stupid for me to even try? I am simply trying to gather some information on the subject and weigh my options. The more information I can get about this subject the better decision I can make regarding what to do.

The stock navi is boring because it has no options besides a GPS. I want to play DVDs, hookup whichever satelite radio I choose (i am a sirius subscriber already), connect an iPod, add bluetooth capabilities..the stock navi for $2,000 doesn't do any of that. And those are just what I came up with off the top of my head.

In regards to what aftermarket stereo I would want to install. I was looking at the pioneer AVIC-D1 as a replacement. But again, this is all just conjecture since I am still just trying to get a grasp on the entire project to see if it is cost affective and feasible.

 

I never said that what you want to do is stupid, if you can get it to work, then awesome. I was trying to tell you that it is very hard and very exspensive. Sorry if i got alittle aggravated back there, but you ended up asking the same question over and over again, even after numerous people gave you the proper information. I would talk to your parts department and see if you can get the schematic for the circuit board. Once you have that, you should be able to get someone that can build a circuit board to look at it and see if it is feasible for you to do. If you cant get that circuit board replaced, then I would say that it cant be done.


Ok, now I see why you call the stock navi is boring, but just to give you a heads up, the pioneer D1 does not exactly do those options either. It does not play DVD's, it cannot have a direct plug in sirius unit because it only handles an xm nav traffic unit, you can connect and ipod, but it does not have bluetooth capabilities.

 

Check out this thread Roch!
https://acurazine.com/forums/audio-video-electronics-navigation-22/avic-d1-309493/

Ron from StreetEffectz just confirmed that he is going to be intall a Pioneer D1 in place of the factory HU!

This is exactly what you're looking at doing. If anyone can get this done, it's StreetEffectz.

 

Wow perfect. Now I just have to see how they do it and if it is possible for me to replicate their process.

On these boards what does "official vendor" mean? Does that mean the person owns a custom shop?

Thanks for the link!