pimpin-tl

Out of all of them, it was the most reliable too.

Dan Martin

They must have recieved some minor revision in 2007 then, because the website says 22/28 for the auto and 21/29 for the manual. The Canadian website has the 3.5SE listed at 10.6L/100KM city and 7.7L/100KM highway, which is a tad better than the US stats. I imagine we have a slightly different testing standard than the EPA.

pbjpb

exactly right. nissan sucks! all their cars/trucks are shit. the company isn't even japanese anymore. no wonder they're last place in sales and resale value. i don't know why someone would try to convince you otherwise..especially on a TSX FORUM.

dom

DuckyTSX

Would you say that a Lexus GS is not a luxury car when in essence it is a "rebadged" toyota camry?

There is more to a luxury car then the car itself. The service, warranty et al are part of what makes a car a "luxury" car. Acura, lexus and Infiniti exists in the US mostly as part of a marketing scheme, but also to set aside a certain class. Sure the TSX is riding on the coat tails of its bigger brothers, but to say it isn't luxury is a stretch.

Things such as warranty set apart a luxury car and a standard car. For instance... a honda, toyota nissan has a basic warranty of 3 yr. / 36,000 mi. A car like Acura/ Infiniti/ lexus has a warranty of 4 yr. / 50,000 mi (60k for infiniti)

To illustrate.. here is one reference to "luxury"
http://autos.aol.com/article/general...06141209990001


BTW. I am not a honda-fan boy. The TSX is my first and probably last honda/ acura.

Dan Martin

Holy fanboy.

Since you just pulled those statements out of your ass, here are the facts:
1) Kelly Blue Book just rated Nissan and BMW as having the highest resale values for 2006.

2) Last month was the best sales month ever for Nissan, up 33% over the same month last year.

dom

But your on a TSX FORUM, yo.

Dan Martin

:troutslap

pimpin-tl

I'd like to see those numbers or a link where it shows Nissan and BMW have the highest resale values especially over Lexus or Honda/Acura. I seriously doubt that.

klas

In this case it wouldn't be GS, it's ES, btw my friend has 1994 ES300 with 220k miles and still going without a hitch

klas

I am not surprised if this is the result of their 350Z sales, but if it's not I must say I am really surprised, I guess people who buy other Nissan cars really don't care how it looks... I would take Corolla or Civic or Mazda3 (even Dodge Caliber will do) over Sentra, I would take Camry/Accord/Mazda6 over Altima or even Maxima

pimpin-tl

And Dan, I hate to break it to you but you were wrong on Nissan sales. They are only up 8.1 perfect over last year.

Nissan North America Announces October Sales [Nov. 1, 06]


NASHVILLE, Tenn. (November 1, 2006) – Nissan North America, Inc. (NNA) today reported sales of 75,095 units in October, an increase of 8.1 percent from the prior year. Nissan Division sales increased by 9.6 percent over last year. Infiniti Division posted a sales decrease of -1.8 percent versus the prior year.

NISSAN HIGHLIGHTS
• October sales for Nissan-brand vehicles of 65,689 units increased by 9.6 percent on a daily sales rate basis compared with last year’s 62,317 units sold.
• The all-new Sentra was off to a good start with sales of 1,900 units, contributing to the total Sentra sales of 8,406 units.
• The new Versa subcompact continued to build momentum with sales of 3,056 units.
• The Murano and Armada had their best October ever with sales of 6,440 units for Murano and 3,376 units for Armada.

INFINITI HIGHLIGHTS
• Sales for Infiniti were down 1.8 percent, with 9,406 units sold, as compared with last October’s 9,962 units.
• The FX luxury crossover vehicle posted sales of 2,320 units in October, a gain of 32.4 percent over the prior year.
• The all-new G35 sedan, released a few days ago, reported sales of 317 units, contributing to the total G35 sedan sales of 2,771 units.

NNA INFORMATION
• Combined October sales for Nissan and Infiniti totaled 75,095 units, a 8.1 percent increase when compared with last year with 72,279 units.
• The all-new 2007 Sentra was released mid-October. November will mark the first full month of sales of the all-new Altima and Infiniti G35 sport sedan.

In North America, NNA’s operations include automotive styling, engineering, consumer and corporate financing, sales and marketing, distribution and manufacturing. More information on NNA and the complete line of Nissan and Infiniti vehicles can be found online at www.nissannews.com or by contacting the corporate media line at 615-725-5631.

# # #
Go here to see detailed numbers.

http://nissannews.com/corporate/news...01101623.shtml

booger123

I think it should me somewhat smoother with the CVT in the '07's.


VQ engines have amazing torque. Horsepower may sell cars but torque wins races. TSX and Altima both weigh 3200lbs but the Altima does 0-60 in 6.31 seconds opposed to the 7.21 seconds the TSX does. It also does 1/4 mile in 14.8 while the TSX does it in 15.63.

However, the interior is no where near the TSX's. Not as good quality and ugly orange lights.

pimpin-tl

And for the month prior to that it was much worse. They decreased.

http://nissannews.com/corporate/news...03101128.shtml

Nissan North America Announces September Sales [Oct. 3, 06]


NASHVILLE, Tenn. (October 3, 2006) – Nissan North America, Inc. (NNA) reports sales of 88,340 units in September, which is a decrease of 9.2 percent from the prior year. The Nissan Division sales decreased by 9.1 percent over last year. The Infiniti Division posted a sales decline of 9.8 percent versus the prior year.

NISSAN HIGHLIGHTS
· September sales for Nissan-brand vehicles of 77,962 units decreased 9.1 percent on a daily sales rate basis when compared to last year with 82,478 units sold.
· The Murano had its best ever September with sales of 6,093 units.
· The new Versa subcompact continues to experience a solid start, with sales of 4,729 units.
· Nissan’s Pathfinder and Armada SUVs saw strong sales in September, with year-over-year monthly increases of 15.1 percent for Pathfinder and 11.4 percent for Armada.

INFINITI HIGHLIGHTS
· Sales for Infiniti were down 9.8 percent, with 10,378 units sold, as compared with last September’s 11,062 units.
· The FX luxury crossover vehicle posted sales of 2,364 units in September, a sales gain of 17.3 percent over the prior year.

NNA INFORMATION
· Combined September sales for Nissan and Infiniti totaled 88,340 units, a 9.2 percent decrease when compared to last year with 93,540 units.
· The coming month marks start of sales for the all-new 2007 Sentra, while the new Altima and Infiniti G35 sport sedan will be on sale in November.

In North America, NNA’s operations include automotive styling, engineering, consumer and corporate financing, sales and marketing, distribution and manufacturing. More information on NNA and the complete line of Nissan and Infiniti vehicles can be found online at www.nissannews.com or by contacting the corporate media line at 615-725-5631.

# # #

psteng19

The 2002+ Altimas have very good resale value, near tops in class.
Infiniti M has good resale on the Infiniti side.

pimpin-tl

If that was true, then our 2003 we wouldn't have taken a bath on trading it in after 3 years.

psteng19

Blind fanboy alert

psteng19

Infiniti M? The previous body style had pretty bad resale, despite being a very good car.
But most people get raped on trade in anyway.

If you're talking about the Altima, then I don't know... can't find a definitive source but the following all show Altima, and Nissan in general in good resale standing.

Top 10 with best residual value in 2005

Altima and Camry ranked same for resale
Actually, this source is kind of fishy because TL/TSX only get 3 stars, where the Altima gets 4

2007 Altima predicted to have 5/5 resale value

These are just some of the first links I found by searching in google.

rugbybrado

But dont make me post pictures of the exact same TSX with honda badges, we've all seen them and we dont need to again.


By the Way...I think you are talking about the ES being a rebadged toyota camry

www.lexus.com
www.toyota.com


www.acura.com
http://www.honda.co.uk/car/

pimpin-tl

No our 2003 Altima. Nissan in general has a poor resale rating. Poorer out of all the japan made vehicles made. This has been known for many years. Only the 350z and G35 hold there value.

Our Altima was worth only 12k 1 year ago and it was a 2003 2.5SL Loaded with 29k of miles.

Dan Martin

Sure:

pimpin-tl

I see nothing about the Altima. :P I knew about the G35 and 350z but not the Alitma. As I said, the Altima has poor resale value.

psteng19

Uhmm... you just totally ignored my sources which state the Altima indeed has good residual value.

Dan Martin

On the topic of Altimas, I just drove a 2.5SL tonight. It's a very impressive car. The CVT will take a little getting used to, but it was quite a bit faster than the Legacy 2.5 that we took out right after the Altima. We're going back on the weekend to drive a 3.5SE and I assume it will probably be faster than the Legacy 2.5 GT.

pimpin-tl

It does not SAY anywhere "ALTIMA" for RESALE VALUE. Residue yes for 2005. But Dan's info shows it not listed period. I just looked again. Plus the % on that 2nd site link is wrong that Dan posted. I posted it straight from Nissans website the sales figures and they are only up 8-9% in October not 30%~.

Only TWO-THREE cars have good resale value. M35/45, 350Z, G35.

Most of Nissan other cars have a crappy resale value due to rental fleets and sales.

pimpin-tl

Believe what you want. I see per Dan's links that the Altima isn't even listed.

dom

:ibDanlosesaracetoSSinanAltima2.5S:

Dan Martin

Actually, when SS was behind the wheel, the sales guy said "I don't think I've ever seen a woman drive so aggressively. Nice!". LOL!

DuckyTSX

Fine.. don't make me start posting pictures of the Lexus is300 and a Toyota Altezza.

EuRTSX

That's weird. When I drove both, I felt that the Legacy was significantly faster than the Altima. Just my

I had a blast driving the Legacy.

Dan Martin

I would have thought so too, but we drove them back-to-back and it was quite noticeable. The Legacy did have a better suspension and more direct steering feel though.

Did you drive the new Altima?

EuRTSX

Actually I believe I drove the 2006 one. Is there a difference between the 06's and the 07's?

Dan Martin

It's completely redesigned for 2007. The inline four still makes 175hp/180lb-ft but the V6 is up to 270hp/258lb-ft (from 250/249 in 2006). I think the CVT will show a little quicker acceleration than last year's 4AT.

EuRTSX

Hmm, I'm gonna have to go test drive one. Sounds interesting.

pbjpb

yeah i agree, where's the link to this Dan you douche. besides it doesn't matter how much nissan's sales increased it's still in last place..that's a fact.

pimpin-tl

Why not you look UP. Don't call people names either.

Dan Martin

Do you have a point, or would you just like to continue the personal attacks so you can be banned?

klas

I think this thread should be locked... who really cares... if you want to get Altima - get Altima, if you like TSX - get TSX.

Personally I am happy that Altima/Nissan sales are up that means that we'll see less of other cars on the road and specifically TSX. I like standing out with my car and getting the car that has the highest sales numbers is not for me.

pimpin-tl

^^ agreed.

L1StarTSX

The ride is not on par with the performance. When I was looking at those before purchasing the TSX, I had some issues with the ride and handling. Coming from a 330CI SMG, the TSX was the closest in handling and ride quality. The altima is still very unrefined for those looking for sport handling and lux feel, should bump up to the G35 or look elsewhere IMO. The interior feels cheap compared to TXS's.

The other thing (strickly just me) with is those cars are freaking everywhere, its Nissans top selling car for like 10 years now, we have about 10 in our parking lot at work here, I wonder how they tell them apart sometimes