roughrider

Is it possible to fit a complete 04 TL engine + tranny in a TSX? I am just curious.

savage

i am not sure if it would fit, but it seems too costly, i have seen it done in a lot of cars when it is known the the original engine can not handle more power from mods very well, one example is new m3's where the engine cant handle too many mods without blowing up, so people drop in M5 engines, lots of money though...

a turbo kit with intercooler on the 2.4 would produce more power, be lighter and a lot less expensive...

also i believe comptech has a supercharger coming in the near future...

xizor

the v6 would horribly throw off the balance of the car.... this would be pretty futile, as for the price for replacing the engine/transmission you probably could've bought a TL in the first place.

elduderino

With the weight of all that stuff in the trunk, wouldn't your 1/4-mile times go way up? Probably would hurt fuel econ too...

roughrider

Let say money and parts are not the issue.

Andynolife

hard to say ... that dude is huge for our engine chasis ... and the design is totally diff.
like our eninges are intakin in the front and exhaust from the rear and the TL's r oppsite ..
tons of difficulty + pain in the ass .... remeber this is not like swap a Type-R engine in Civic or RSX

ClutchPerformer

Every time this topic is brought up, someone mentions this. Does anyone know what the weight specs are for the k24 and j32?

sauceman

I'm pretty sure the weight increase doesn't exceed 150lbs. Not enough to make a "horrible" difference, IMO. Just make sure then that you have the A-Spec package. Should take care of things.

Lung Fu Mo Shi

It's not a horrible difference, but unfortunately the engine is still forward of the front suspension, exacerbating the weight difference. (that's the only SAT word I remember).

bgillette

this is the dumbest idea ever.......

if you want TL POWER get a TL

if you want TSX Power and handleing....get a TSX!

gezzzz

Andynolife

yeah ......... both Supercharger and Turbo will get u the power to kick TL's ass and ALOT less money for the parts and installation... and less risk to fuk ur car up .. ~~
if it work .. u r lucky .. if it doesn't ,.... then u really fucked ~

roughrider

Calm down guys, like I said, I was just curious. Nothing serious. Just shit talk.

STL

That reminds me of a saying...a fool and his money are easily parted!

masmole

I totally agree. I like the TSX for it's relatively light weight, tossability, its hard-edged 4-cylinder, and its dynamically sound front-drive platform. If I wanted a car with more refined V6 power with the inherent handling sacrifices, I would've bought a TL.... ok scratch that, there are probably better cars than the TL in that category since more cylinders and displacement doesn't lend itself well to a front-drive configuration.

But to answer the question -- yes, I do think the J32 from the 04 TL would fit under the bonnet of the TSX.... anything's possible... but clearly, it is an undertaking of gigantic technical proportions. It would require lots of modifications with the possibility of moving other components of the car to the rear and possibly utilize a modified transmission or an entirely different one. Since the J32 is a transversely configured motor, space requirements are already favorable but still doesn't make things any easier since the TSX's shorter front-end seems to be also more sharply raked. It's definitely a shoe-horn job and I've seen even more challenging ones performed successfully in the past so this is do-able. The question is, why? when there's better alternatives, and even better motors available that are even more compact. I don't think this one is worth doing which is why you'll never see it go past the "what if" threads on forums like these.

Deelover

Its not a dumb idea because if it was feasible people would do it. Just like someone mentioned the BMW and civics, this is all about moding your ride not buying a stock car.
My friend had a 3 series with a 5 series engine and it would wipe any 3 or 5's azz. Just like the audi S4 is an A4 with a big azz engine.

phile

But would the TL engine fit in the TSX's engine bay? I think when the car first appeared, a lot of people were expecting at least the V6 from the Accord, if not the 3.2L engine, and it was almost always brought up that the 6-cylinder engine would not fit.

ClutchPerformer

I hope you mean he put the V8 from the 5-series in there. Otherwise...

dom

If a V6 fit in the TSX I'm sure they would have offered one at least in the US and Canada. With the Accord 3L the most obvious choice. But, this car was designed and built with European tastes in mind and thus was only designed to accomodate a 4 banger. Remember that not only would a heavier V6 throw off weight balance but it may also complicate the crash zone of the car as well.

So would it fit? Anything's possible expecially with time and $$$. But you better have lots of $$$

ClutchPerformer

So is 150 the actual number? I'm trying to do a calculation here....

sauceman

Nah, I threw it out of my butt, but I wouldn't be surprised it wouldn't exceed it.

rondog

iTrader: (1)

hey, whay not just get a crate motor its cheaper and would offer alot more power. if your gonna do it, do it big.

toddstuh

The weight difference between the Accord LX (auto) K24 and J32 is 3164 vs. 3349 or 185lbs.
If the K series and the J32 both fit into the Accord then they're presumably using the same mounting points.
The Accord is 2 inches wider and 6 inches longer than the TSX.
The Accord wheelbase is 108" vs 105" for the TSX. It appears as if a fair amount of that additional length is found in the larger trunk of the Accord.
Thus, excluding the slightly narrower and the possibly shallower engine compartment of the TSX, (to be determined) ...it just might fit....

shabaaz

I'm sure swapping in the TL's V6 is "possible" if you have lots of money, have a team of engineers, and if you do some serious modifications to the chassis.

Anythings possible, for example Ford racing crammed a 5.4 liter V8 race engine into a focus and converted it to rear wheel drive. It's in last months issue of Motor Trend. But like everyone else said, its not worth putting the V6 into the TSX. Just buy a friggin TL. What I'd like to see is someone swap a V6 into an S2000. Now that would be interesting.