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Old Mar 1, 2004 | 11:13 PM
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Solid(?) Bumper Turn Signal??? Update: DIY

I have a 96 3.2TL turn singal question.

Is there a way to make the turn signal on the bumper to stay ON and then blink when you're signaling???

The reason I ask is because I have clear bumper signal lens and some white bulb lights and it'll look better at night with the bumper signals ON all the time and blink on and off when signaling and return to a solid light when not signaling.

Will I have to do any re-wiring? How hard is it?
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Old Mar 1, 2004 | 11:15 PM
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run a search the directions are on here somewhere
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 01:01 AM
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Re: Solid(?) Bumper Turn Signal???

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I have a 96 3.2TL turn singal question.

Is there a way to make the turn signal on the bumper to stay ON and then blink when you're signaling???

The reason I ask is because I have clear bumper signal lens and some white bulb lights and it'll look better at night with the bumper signals ON all the time and blink on and off when signaling and return to a solid light when not signaling.

Will I have to do any re-wiring? How hard is it?
i've tried two different ways. One was installing 4 relays to keep the signal light on and blink off when signaling... i took them off because it quickflashes.. annoying after a while.... the way i'm running the light right now is with a new pair of double filament bulbs with new light sockets.. I'm using the oem civic/accord sockets..expect to pay at least 30 bucks for the two small pieces of plastic..
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 01:54 AM
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I also had a buddy of mine rewire my car with the relays. I personally like the fast blink, but ever since i took my car to get painted they messed up the wiring in the bumper lights so now i dont have any front blinkers. BIG BUMMER and ticket too. I dont drive it as much as i used to but i definately need to get that solved for those few days I do drive it.

QUICK NOTE. my relays would mess up every 4 - 6 months which meant I needed to go to PEP BOYS every time and get a new relay which would cost me anywhere from 6 - 12 bucks each
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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 07:06 AM
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I'm using the oem civic/accord sockets..expect to pay at least 30 bucks for the two small pieces of plastic..

TLxRaCeR, what civic/accord year? Do you think i can use an integra 94-00 socket?
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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 08:41 AM
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Originally posted by Acurasnake
I'm using the oem civic/accord sockets..expect to pay at least 30 bucks for the two small pieces of plastic..

TLxRaCeR, what civic/accord year? Do you think i can use an integra 94-00 socket?


to my knowledge, the integra sockets are all single filament. i could be wrong tho....
socket is for 98-02 accord, 92-present civic..
you can always go to a parts store for the universal sockets, but for me, i wasnt able to find any.. hope this helps..
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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 01:26 PM
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TLxRaCeR: THANKS!!! i'll try'em out!!
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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 08:17 PM
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TLxRaCeR: i took out the socket from the tl and now i have 3 wires.... do you know where the 3 wires go into the accord/civic socket?? driver's side i have 2 green and i black. passenger side i have 2 black and 1 green. i tried all sorts of combinations....i'm stumped!!! please help!!
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 05:37 PM
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i just did this mod today.. i went to every Acura and Honda dealership and they didn't have the socket in stcok... didn't want to wait so i went to PepBoys and pick up two dual filament sockets... hooked them in... it's golden... took me about half an hour.. i know there is another thread on here with Acurasnake's directions...

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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 06:36 PM
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Hi folks.
I read the title and couldn't resist the mod.
Okay, let me review the scenerio. You guys want
the parking light to come on when turned on. Then when you activate the blinker, you want the parking light turn off and flash instead then when the blinker is deactivated it remains a parking light again unless the parking light is shutoff.
This is a good idea. How come Acura didnt thought of this in the first place?

To do this, all you need is a diode,2 SPDT relays,and some fuses/extra wires.
Anyone who installs alarms/remote starters should understand how to wire this easily. I would have to test each wires to determine what wires what then I can post pics and a write up for you guys, and it wont be until late Saturday.

-SPDT Relays are $2.00 each
-Diodes are $1.25
All can be bought at Radioshack
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 06:53 PM
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I read it as:

When you turn the lights on, the long and short corner light will both light up. When you turn the blinker on, the long corner light blinks.
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by UnsanePyro
I read it as:

When you turn the lights on, the long and short corner light will both light up. When you turn the blinker on, the long corner light blinks.
correct...
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 04:46 AM
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I don't know about everywhere else but in pennsylvania, clear turn signals in front won't pass inspection.
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 08:38 PM
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I don't know about everywhere else but in pennsylvania, clear turn signals in front won't pass inspection.
I think some BMW 3 series have clear turn signals.
But it uses amber colored light bulbs.
In RI, we can use clear turn signals as long as it is an amber colored light bulb.
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 08:50 PM
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Yeah, I don't think the color of the housing is what is important, I have always been under the impression it is what color it blinks..
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 09:06 PM
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thats what I meant
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 10:12 PM
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13$ mod... i love it.. will do LEDs soon..
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 09:10 AM
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Kam, you just picked up some dual fillamint sockets? Nothing else? What about wires to connect?
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 11:41 AM
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just cut off the old one, and tap another wire on the corner parking light... i have some time today i will do a write up DIY for everyone...
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 02:59 PM
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DIY: Dual Filament Socket Conversion

Tools required
1.) phillips screwdriver
2.) wire strippers
3.) t-taps and male connectors (or) solder and heat shrink
4.) electrical tape
5.) dremel or file
6.) Two dual filament sockets (bought mind from pep boys for 5.19 each)

If you want to use Honda/Acura sockets, they will run you about 15 bucks each... i could not find any dealer with them in stock so i decided with pep boys... Honda Part #: 33302-SR3-A01... or #33302-ST7-A01 also works...
7.) Two wires at one foot length.

Directions
1.) Remove both bumper lense covers... for those of you who do not know how to remove the bumper lenses please see your manual... it is relatively simple... 1 screw from the center grill and the other screw is on the outside parking lense...

2.) cut off old signal socket and pull back wire loom... on the parking light housing just pull back the wire loom so that it is exposed...

3.) if you look at the new dual filament socket you will notice that there are three wires compared to the normal two from the OEM signal...





the black wire on the right is your ground... you will be able to tell which wire is the ground because it is connected to the housing of the bulb... so you can go ahead and connect that to the black wire you cut from the OEM signal...

4.) now for the third wire, you will need to tap the corner parking light



some prefer t-taps, since these wires are outside and exposed to the elements, i soldered and heat shrunk the connections and put them back into the wire loom... tap the red wire....

5.) run that new wire to the signal area...


6.) i tied it to the signal loom and cut the wire to the same length as the others...


7.) now look at the new socket and you already have the ground connected... now connect the remaining two wires to the socket... it does not matter which wire goes to which because it is illuminating one side of the bulb when there is power going through... to be consistent, i attached the red wire to the factory signal line and the tap from the parking lamp i attached to the black wire...


8.) here is a pic of the socket with the bulb in it... it did not fit so i filed down the top notch... it is now held in with two contact notches...


9.) before you reinstall everything, test to make sure it works.. turn on your parking lights and make sure they both light up... then turn on your hazards to see if it also blinks... if you are good, reinstall...

10.) repeat for the other side...

when you are done, it will look like this:
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 03:59 PM
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thanks for the DIY im going to make that my first little custom mod for my TL this week and see if i can find some hyper white bulbs to fit in it
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by TLxRaCeR
i've tried two different ways. One was installing 4 relays to keep the signal light on and blink off when signaling... i took them off because it quickflashes.. annoying after a while.... the way i'm running the light right now is with a new pair of double filament bulbs with new light sockets.. I'm using the oem civic/accord sockets..expect to pay at least 30 bucks for the two small pieces of plastic..

I'm pretty sure My way is the most obscure........

I unhooked all the lighting wires except for the main headlight..........

I first switched the bumper signals......so that the small side bumper light would blink.......while the bigger front bumper light would be constant when the parking/head lights are on.......

Then, since you can't see that little light blink worth shit........i switched the wiring of the small side bumper blinker.....to the parking light next to the main headlight...............so now the parking light up above blinks.......and the two sets of bumper lights remain constant.........it looks pretty cool.

hopefully this wasn't confusing.....haha. I'll post a pic soon.......what do you guys think of this way of doing it?
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Old Feb 6, 2006 | 04:58 PM
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okay my right corner bumper light has 4 wires coming out of it.....im not exactly an eletrical genius so you think you could peel back that plastic so i can see exactly what wires are connected to which? it would be a HUGE help....thanks in advance
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uhh u should only have 2 wires back there.. double check and take a pic if possible.. do u have a meter???
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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 09:49 AM
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ill take a pic in a few min so you see what im talking about and i dont have meter....at least i dont think so ill check
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i would follow the wires that are coming out of the bulb harness... should only be two.. i will wait for pic...
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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 04:08 PM
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im uploading the pics now
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this is the corner light im talking about with 4 wires the (2) reds on the left (2) blacks on the right.....sorry my shitty camera likes to focus on the background for small stuff
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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 04:25 PM
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this is the longer lamp of the bumper lenses with 2 green on the right and 1 black on the left
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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 04:25 PM
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click on the pics and they get A LOT bigger
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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 11:31 PM
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4.) now for the third wire, you will need to tap the corner parking light
Isn't the power thats supplied to the corner parking lights rate already fixed?
So now if you tried to leech power from that line to another line, wouldn't the light bulb be kinda dim or blow a fuse later on? Did you guys noticed any dimness?
If it works alright then I guess its all good.

The way I did mine was, I used a relay to receive a signal from the parking light. Then it would supply power to the lower corner and front bumper lights or wherever. When theres no signal, the relay shuts off, the lights goes off.

Now for the blinkers, I also used a relay. When it receives a signal from the blinker wire, it will then send a signal to the parking light relay to shut off the parking light relay if its on, and supply power to make the lower corner and front
bumper lights blink.
I am getting all my powers directly from the battery/fused/and dioded from some protections.
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Originally Posted by steadyACridin

this is the longer lamp of the bumper lenses with 2 green on the right and 1 black on the left
sorry, off the top of my head, i can't tell you what the other wires are for.. u are going to need to get a meter and test to see which line has juice when u turn on your parking lights... that is the one you will want to tap...

i will look for a wire diagram... what year is your car??? 3.2 or 2.5???
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Originally Posted by Ysidro
Isn't the power thats supplied to the corner parking lights rate already fixed?
So now if you tried to leech power from that line to another line, wouldn't the light bulb be kinda dim or blow a fuse later on? Did you guys noticed any dimness?
If it works alright then I guess its all good.

The way I did mine was, I used a relay to receive a signal from the parking light. Then it would supply power to the lower corner and front bumper lights or wherever. When theres no signal, the relay shuts off, the lights goes off.

Now for the blinkers, I also used a relay. When it receives a signal from the blinker wire, it will then send a signal to the parking light relay to shut off the parking light relay if its on, and supply power to make the lower corner and front
bumper lights blink.
I am getting all my powers directly from the battery/fused/and dioded from some protections.
i get what you are doing... i did it this way because there was no dimming issue... as long as there is no short in the line, it should not pop any fuses... from what i have experienced in the past, using relays for something as frequent as a turn signal, i replaced too many relays... got too expensive for me... i will soon be switching to LED's so it should lower the draw on the line anyway...
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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 09:50 PM
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its a 1996 2.5 TL
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 12:02 PM
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by steadyACridin
...sorry my shitty camera likes to focus on the background for small stuff
Sorry, but you are wrong here. That is operator error. The camera is doing as it is told - focusing on your nice paver blocks with the large x and y grid.

What you can learn to do in a case like this is center the camera on something like the bumper with the wires, press the button half way, and then center the camera to what you want.

Whala, wire in focus, pavers in the background.

JMHO
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Originally Posted by ShopLifter
I have a 96 3.2TL turn singal question.

Is there a way to make the turn signal on the bumper to stay ON and then blink when you're signaling???

The reason I ask is because I have clear bumper signal lens and some white bulb lights and it'll look better at night with the bumper signals ON all the time and blink on and off when signaling and return to a solid light when not signaling.

Will I have to do any re-wiring? How hard is it?
Wait, I thought our cars already do this?! My front turn signals stay on with my parking lights, and they blink when I use turn signals or throw on my hazards. I thought this was normal... am I totally reading your question wrong?
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Old May 2, 2009 | 08:40 AM
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Wait, I thought our cars already do this?! My front turn signals stay on with my parking lights, and they blink when I use turn signals or throw on my hazards. I thought this was normal... am I totally reading your question wrong?
I just reread your post and realized what you were asking. That'd be nice, instead of having the light dim all the time and flashing brightly when signaling; you can have the light bright all the time, and simply blink off when signaling! I feel like such a jerk.
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Old May 2, 2009 | 08:49 AM
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Wait, now having read further... you guys are talking about something else?! You're talking about making the outer bumper marker act as a turn signal too? That'd be great for my lights conversion. I wanted the headlight marker (amber led) and bumper marker (amber led) to both blink when signaling, and have my front bumper lights converted to highest yellow output (pseudofoglights to compliment my foglights) and to either stay on with parking lights, or possibly turn on with foglights.
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Did this finally over the weekend and didnt quite fully understand it but the turn signal only lights up when lights are off. just a tip for anyone else doing this without the sockets from the dealer only Pepboys carries this so dont go anywhere else.
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