Thats right, i raced my boss last night he drives a '92 prelude 5 speed with an intake and exhaust and a few other small mods, all he could talk about was how fast and great this car was. i was sure i was gonna lose, but we sat at the red light, i dropped my TL into D3 and as soon it was green floored it. He couldnt even keep up, we hit 90 then slowed down, i smiled the whole way home

 

Dropped it into D3?

 

My manager drives a Prelude too...I gotta get him to race me lol

 

yes as in moving the transmission out of D4 into D3, you get a lot more power and quicker acceleration, the once u hit around 80 put it back to D4 so u dont blow the engine

 

Nice kill.

But I hope your boss drives an Si. The S model has a whopping 135 hp . Si is better with 160 hp.

Anybody know how we'd do against a last gen Prelude?

 

'97-'01 Prelude Auto would barely beat a 3.2 (stock) and the manual Prelude would beat us by several car lengths in most races.

And a Prelude SH would obviously KILL us in any race involving curves

But... thanks to recent mods, I have been able to beat last generation Preludes

 

I am impressed at your ability to answer my post in 3 minutes, and further impressed that you have the relevant knowledge.

I would imagine we'd get the best of them at launch (unless they were dropping the clutch) because of our 50 lb torque advantage. They have a significantly higher redline than a Type I TL (nod to Ken) so they'd probably win on the "pulling longer not harder" race.

 

By the way, D3 and D4 start in the same 1st gear so it doesn't matter, the car has no more power and accelerates no quicker in either gear.

 

does your boss have an h23 or h22 prelude? That's the only thing thats important.

 

That's what I thought... D3 wouldn't help you much unless you're already in 4th gear and needed a little bit of a boost or if you're going uphill.

But I know the feeling you're talking about... that feeling you get when you beat a car that's normally viewed as a fast car with our TLs.

I beat a VW GTi or Golf... I don't remember which. I know that our cars can take the Golf, but not sure about the GTi. I can't remember which one as they both look almost exactly the same but I'm pretty sure it was the GTi.

 

 

Actually.. putting it in D3 will raise the shift points AND make the tranny shifter slightly faster/rougher.

Anyone remember the sport/economy button on the '90-'93 Accord? Same thing.

 

holy SHIT. are u serious. no mention of this in the owner's manual or anything. So theroteically this would lead to better accel times right?

Good kill by the way. Need to tell us if it was S or Si. Either way the guy had intake and exhaust so even if it was an S, he was probably pushing around 150 at the crank.

Not to hijack or anything, but had some "trouble" taking on an 02 civic lx sedan 5spd coupla weeks ago. Was my friends - but it kinda surprised me. Dropped it into 2 at 30mph, instead of letting the tranny take care of it. It was on a roll from 30, and took me upto 110mph befire i passed him! Truly didn't expect it to take this long though.

 

he claims it needs a tuneup and that he got stuck in 1st gear. im not sure what model it is but once he gets it tuned and learns how to drive it (even tho hes had it for 2 years) we'll race again., ill keep u guys posted. i love toasting little hatchback civics and shit on the highways, great feeling

also 5 speed civics, when driven properly are quick, if u get a good driver on a honda 5 speed its instant competition, there so slick and easy to work and the car weighs like 1000 pounds less then ours. either way, they dont have heated seats or headliner speakers

 

sport economy button? I've never seen that in mine

 

yeah my sister's 91 Integra GS has the "S" (S3-3rd/S4-4th) button!!

straight from the 91 Integra's owner manual:

"The "S" shifter selector range changes the shift points under part throttle acceleration, allowing the transmission to stay in each lower gear for a longer period before automatically upshifting. During "S3" the transmission will shift from 1st to 2nd and 3rd but not 4th. While driving in "S"range, you can select 4th gear by pushing the "S4" switch."

"While driving in the "S" range, the car's performance is improved but fuel economy is reduced."

 

YUP, i remember that button on my auto shift stick for my '91 Prelude SR. Used it a few times off a green myself. That car was fun to drive.....good times.

 

Isn't it better to floor the gas on D4 instead of D3? I heard it's not good for your engine if you floor on D3.

 

No reason why wide open throttle on D3 would be any more harmful than on D4. You're not going to go past the redline in either setting.

It would not be so smart in L or 2 though since those are limited to 1st and 2nd gear respectively.

 

sorry, i meant transmission. Not engine.

 

There is no difference in "harm". D3 simply limits your top gear to 3rd rather than 4th.

 

What effect does turning O/D off have when in D3 compared to D4? Does it make acceleration significantly better? ..or is it really not much of a difference?

Thanks

 

Putting your car in D3 is turning off your overdrive. The shift points are raised in D3 and the gears change a bit quicker/crisper/rougher.

 

So whats the difference between D3 and D4

 

D3 will not engage 4th gear. I find it useful around town to keep my car in D3 as it will only have to downshift 1 gear instead of 2. Makes for more responsive passing.

 

I know I was being sarcastic.

 

Sarcasm unfortunately doesnt work too well online..

 

okay so what is better for when I want to smoke my next prelude.. D4 with O/D off, or D3? ..or, like you said ken, are they basically the same?

 

It's actualy more fun when it doesnt work.

 

I just tested this. Straight line, WOT.

D4 -> Shift at ~6700 RPM (just shy of redline)
D3 -> Shift at ~6700 RPM (just shy of redline)

The same spot.

Those were just the shift from 1 -> 2, I didn't have room to go 2 -> 3

And if you are racing in D3, you don't have to worry about shifting it until you get to the top of third gear (~110MPH in a 97 2.5)

 

Really?

Hmm.. maybe its different in the 3.2's or maybe its my ECU

 

I'll have to try it out some more sometime, and some 0-100 runs on the highway in d3/d4 and see if there is a difference.

 

I too will have to try it again.

 

Don't you have a 3.2 with a TypeII conversion?

 

Putting it in D3 definitely pulls harder in my opinion. At WOT in D4, there's a slight hesitation before the car moves (from a complete stop).

The car will shift at the same points, but I think the ECU hesitates in D4.

I have a 3.2 by the way.

 

You were going full throttle correct? That's why it didnt make a difference...you didnt give the tranny time to shift. Try the same thing with 75% throttle and you should notice D3 shifts at a higher RPM (not by much tho).

 

Yes I sure do.

 

I assumed that since he was racing, he was at WOT. That is why I tested it at WOT.