Acura 3.2TL vs Lexus ES300
11-07-2004, 07:25 PM
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Acura 3.2TL vs Lexus ES300
found this review on the net @ edmunds.com....u guys might wanna take a read.
http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/compa...6/article.html
enjoy....for those of u who can't ake the time to read, scroll down for the conclusion....
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"Weeks later, sitting in the comfort of my Denver home, I realize that it's time to pick a winner of this comparison test. On paper, the Lexus is the victor, offering a surprising degree of comfort and performance in a relatively inexpensive package. We don't hesitate to recommend the Lexus to anyone looking at the BMW 328i. It is not quite as sporty, but it has considerably more room and a feeling of luxury not found in the Teutonic sedan. The Acura, however, should not be discounted. While not as fast as the ES300, the Acura is still pretty quick. More importantly, though, is the 3.2TL's solidity; the car feels as stable as Plymouth Rock under most driving conditions. Also, the 3.2TL has a presence that is missing from the ES300. Its imposing sheetmetal, authoritative exhaust note, and satisfying door-thunk conveys an impression of dignity typically reserved for top-drawer cars like the Lexus LS400 or BMW 7-Series. We wouldn't want to be forced into choosing between these two fantastic cars, but if we were, we would probably go with the Acura."
http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/compa...6/article.html
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"Weeks later, sitting in the comfort of my Denver home, I realize that it's time to pick a winner of this comparison test. On paper, the Lexus is the victor, offering a surprising degree of comfort and performance in a relatively inexpensive package. We don't hesitate to recommend the Lexus to anyone looking at the BMW 328i. It is not quite as sporty, but it has considerably more room and a feeling of luxury not found in the Teutonic sedan. The Acura, however, should not be discounted. While not as fast as the ES300, the Acura is still pretty quick. More importantly, though, is the 3.2TL's solidity; the car feels as stable as Plymouth Rock under most driving conditions. Also, the 3.2TL has a presence that is missing from the ES300. Its imposing sheetmetal, authoritative exhaust note, and satisfying door-thunk conveys an impression of dignity typically reserved for top-drawer cars like the Lexus LS400 or BMW 7-Series. We wouldn't want to be forced into choosing between these two fantastic cars, but if we were, we would probably go with the Acura."
11-07-2004, 07:30 PM
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Yeah, the ES just didn't do it for me. And an 99+ RL was out of the question at the time, so I got the TL 
I've been quite happy with it.
I've been quite happy with it.
11-07-2004, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
Yeah, the ES just didn't do it for me. And an 99+ RL was out of the question at the time, so I got the TL
I've been quite happy with it.
I've been quite happy with it.
so u test drove an es before buying the tl. what were ur reasons for choosing the tl over the es (or any other vehicle for that matter) at the time.
11-07-2004, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by vishnus11
so u test drove an es before buying the tl. what were ur reasons for choosing the tl over the es (or any other vehicle for that matter) at the time.
The ES had none of that. And it was way too light.
11-07-2004, 09:48 PM
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I have spent time with both, since I have a TL and there's also an ES300 in the family.
The ES of this generation looks and feels like a Camry that's not even geneboosted. The newer generation TLs could feel the same as an Accord, I haven't really spent any time with one, but at least the 1st gen doesn't. Get a load of the shifter for an ES. Cheapo. The car is just so Camry for me.
The ES300 doesn't feel particularly faster. I don't know why they said so in the article.
I will hand it to the ES though, it has a much larger back seat.
The ES of this generation looks and feels like a Camry that's not even geneboosted. The newer generation TLs could feel the same as an Accord, I haven't really spent any time with one, but at least the 1st gen doesn't. Get a load of the shifter for an ES. Cheapo. The car is just so Camry for me.
The ES300 doesn't feel particularly faster. I don't know why they said so in the article.
I will hand it to the ES though, it has a much larger back seat.
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11-07-2004, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by wackjum
I have spent time with both, since I have a TL and there's also an ES300 in the family.
The ES of this generation looks and feels like a Camry that's not even geneboosted. The newer generation TLs could feel the same as an Accord, I haven't really spent any time with one, but at least the 1st gen doesn't. Get a load of the shifter for an ES. Cheapo. The car is just so Camry for me.
The ES300 doesn't feel particularly faster. I don't know why they said so in the article.
I will hand it to the ES though, it has a much larger back seat.
The ES of this generation looks and feels like a Camry that's not even geneboosted. The newer generation TLs could feel the same as an Accord, I haven't really spent any time with one, but at least the 1st gen doesn't. Get a load of the shifter for an ES. Cheapo. The car is just so Camry for me.
The ES300 doesn't feel particularly faster. I don't know why they said so in the article.
I will hand it to the ES though, it has a much larger back seat.
And yes, the ES300 has a bigger backseat. Partly because the TL's longitudinally mounted engine eating up passenger space.
11-08-2004, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by WBroylesH
One can tell just by looking that the TL is a cooler car.
If I were to choose between the two, whether or not the TL performed at a level slightly below the ES or regardless of the ES is a little roomier or whatever. The TL would win my vote due to its timeless good looks. It looks a hell of a lot classier and more lux than the ES.
11-11-2004, 10:55 AM
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The reason I said that the ES300 is supposedly faster is because it came out of the review:
"This time I was in the Acura, following the rapidly disappearing tail lamps of Wardlaw's ES300. I realized immediately that the 3.2TL doesn't have the same sort of power as its ES300 counterpart. While no slouch in the acceleration department, the Acura just couldn't keep up with the Lexus when Wardlaw was really dropping the hammer."
"This time I was in the Acura, following the rapidly disappearing tail lamps of Wardlaw's ES300. I realized immediately that the 3.2TL doesn't have the same sort of power as its ES300 counterpart. While no slouch in the acceleration department, the Acura just couldn't keep up with the Lexus when Wardlaw was really dropping the hammer."
11-11-2004, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by wackjum
The reason I said that the ES300 is supposedly faster is because it came out of the review:
"This time I was in the Acura, following the rapidly disappearing tail lamps of Wardlaw's ES300. I realized immediately that the 3.2TL doesn't have the same sort of power as its ES300 counterpart. While no slouch in the acceleration department, the Acura just couldn't keep up with the Lexus when Wardlaw was really dropping the hammer."
"This time I was in the Acura, following the rapidly disappearing tail lamps of Wardlaw's ES300. I realized immediately that the 3.2TL doesn't have the same sort of power as its ES300 counterpart. While no slouch in the acceleration department, the Acura just couldn't keep up with the Lexus when Wardlaw was really dropping the hammer."
11-11-2004, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
Yeah, I just don't believe that review. All the other reviews have numbers slightly favoring the TL.
11-11-2004, 03:14 PM
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I unfortunately don't have scans. I just read various reviews from Car and Driver, Motortrend and Road & Track.
Here's a link to Cars.com, it has a few reviews of the TL, mostly good.
http://www.cars.com/carsapp/national...mdid=7&yr=1996
Here's a link to Cars.com, it has a few reviews of the TL, mostly good.
http://www.cars.com/carsapp/national...mdid=7&yr=1996
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