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Old Aug 27, 2013 | 11:43 PM
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hows the MPG?? if you are heavy foot i am sure it guzzles it but if you are light does it show a difference?? also looks like better benefits with a bigger injector do you know what type of injectors where used??


also any word on a group buy??
Heavy footed. I averaged 19.46 on the way back from Hondata. Can't really get a true economy reading until I get done testing it's performance.

They are deatschwerks injectors.
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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 01:47 AM
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Crazy Inquire:

will you share the calibrations Hondata tuned for your RDX, user65 ?
As most of the RDX have similar modification.

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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 03:57 AM
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That was my rdx and yes the world record was just a joke lol.. cant wait for people to break 13s
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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by BU
Crazy Inquire:

will you share the calibrations Hondata tuned for your RDX, user65 ?
As most of the RDX have similar modification.

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I would not. Every car is different even if they have the same parts. Have a tune custom tailored to your car by a trusted tuner
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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 08:46 AM
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it would be nice to be in the ball park to start with though.^
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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 09:02 AM
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... it just sucks to see people who have distorted views of a company spread negativity where it's not necessary. Customer Service doesn't make a company, it makes it better.

In the end I think you are throwing a company under the bus for what appears to be an overreaction. You've sent me the thread and some other info, but unless there is more to it, I just think it's silly for what it is.

Also, if you think this is bad customer service, try working in the gun industry. There's a ton of friendly people here, just waiting to lose your business.

1. I simply offered the truth and shared my experience with "H..."

2. YOU are the one who PM'ed me wanting the details of my experience with "H..." Now you are trying to throw me under the bus.

3. YOU are the one calling me names, I simply had a bad CS experience.

I am not judging you for dealing with them, I'm sharing my experience and opinion. In fact, this all started with my post here:
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No Thank You
YOU are the one who has continued to stir shit up. So either you enjoy the banter, or YOU are making something out of nothing.

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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 09:04 AM
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it would be nice to be in the ball park to start with though.^
it would definitely be a nice base map and then only fine tuning would be required
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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 09:52 AM
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up on hondata's website.

Available Sept 2nd 2013, FlashPro for the Acura RDX turbo enables tuning for performance and economy for your stock or modified RDX. With the ability to program boost levels, fuel, ignition and cam angles, FlashPro for the Acura RDX unleashes the most horsepower of all the products we make.
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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by user65
Heavy footed. I averaged 19.46 on the way back from Hondata. Can't really get a true economy reading until I get done testing it's performance.

They are deatschwerks injectors.
is this city or highway miles? or combo?

do the injectors plug and go? or do we need to modify at all? are you using the 600cc now or the 800cc?
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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 10:28 AM
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build list included in write up please.!. to include part numbers and or where you got them. that would be awesome!!!
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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by BU
Crazy Inquire:

will you share the calibrations Hondata tuned for your RDX, user65 ?
As most of the RDX have similar modification.

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Sure, you are at your own risk though. I'll be getting the flashpro next week and can send over my version.
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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by bluecarbonfiber
is this city or highway miles? or combo?

do the injectors plug and go? or do we need to modify at all? are you using the 600cc now or the 800cc?
Mostly highway with about 10-15 miles city. It was about a 120 mile trip.

From what I understand they are plug n play, but they need to be re-worked in the tuning in order to actually be effective/useful. 600cc.
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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by user65
Mostly highway with about 10-15 miles city. It was about a 120 mile trip.

From what I understand they are plug n play, but they need to be re-worked in the tuning in order to actually be effective/useful. 600cc.
Correction, the injectors need to be soldered in.
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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 11:19 AM
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what was your final numbers? how much psi did you end up running?
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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by exist12
what was your final numbers? how much psi did you end up running?
MAP sensor will read up to 26 but nothing over 15 was tested from what I read on the site.
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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 05:13 PM
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Giggity!

Most of my questions have been answered regarding this except one - for the moment. I know not to put much faith in baseline numbers when comparing a before/after dyno run (look to the delta, which is the important number), but I cannot help to notice the drastic difference in user65's starting point in the graph and tsjeff's starting point. Were they using the same dyno with similar conditions? I could see the huge difference in baseline's if the dyno's were different run by different people, etc,, but an almost 40 HP difference on the same dyno in similar conditions raises my brow a little. Any thoughts on this?...Other than your older RDX is a little tired...
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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Slow98teg
I would not. Every car is different even if they have the same parts. Have a tune custom tailored to your car by a trusted tuner
That would be the better option, for sure, but I would argue if it is really necessary. COBB uses pre-set calibrations based off popular modifications (I actually thought Hondata did this too) and that functioned as a "good enough" to yield some impressive gains that were also relatively safe. Don't get me wrong, I am all for a professional tune, but in the interest of cost reduction, I would be willing to forego a couple HP and ft/lbs of torque if it meant that I would save a couple hundred bucks in the price and a trip or two to a tuner that is far away.
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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 06:19 PM
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That would be the better option, for sure, but I would argue if it is really necessary. COBB uses pre-set calibrations based off popular modifications (I actually thought Hondata did this too) and that functioned as a "good enough" to yield some impressive gains that were also relatively safe. Don't get me wrong, I am all for a professional tune, but in the interest of cost reduction, I would be willing to forego a couple HP and ft/lbs of torque if it meant that I would save a couple hundred bucks in the price and a trip or two to a tuner that is far away.
If you've ever seen cobb dynos with ots maps and custom dyno tunes you might change your mind. I can understand where that thought comes in to save money and "it should be close" comes to some people. But if you don't have a wideband and boost gauge to monitor why bother. A tune is an investment to help your motor last. Every motor is different then the next. Bearing clearance, p2w clearance, valve lash, spark plug life/gap, mileage, turbo life etc... that's why I trust a tune specifically for my car. I don't know your knowledge in cars but I felt the need to fully explain my reasoning for someone who might not know. Might save them a motor down the road.
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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 09:03 PM
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was that '12 AWD or FWD?
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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 10:19 PM
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I emailed Mr. Heeltoe inquire about GB FlashPro.
Let see how it goes

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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Slow98teg
If you've ever seen cobb dynos with ots maps and custom dyno tunes you might change your mind. I can understand where that thought comes in to save money and "it should be close" comes to some people. But if you don't have a wideband and boost gauge to monitor why bother. A tune is an investment to help your motor last. Every motor is different then the next. Bearing clearance, p2w clearance, valve lash, spark plug life/gap, mileage, turbo life etc... that's why I trust a tune specifically for my car. I don't know your knowledge in cars but I felt the need to fully explain my reasoning for someone who might not know. Might save them a motor down the road.
I do not disagree with what you are saying and a custom tune is the better option. However, I had a very good experience with COBB and their preloaded maps for the tune I was looking for...which is similar to what I am looking for with my RDX...were pretty good. COBBs Accessport also allowed you to monitor all the critical areas to keep your motor out of trouble: boost, AFR, knock, LTFT, to name a few. My opinion is that tuners like COBB and Hondata have to know what they are doing or they would not be in business for as long as they have. I trust their ability to tune even if it is an OTS map. It is also my opinion that the moment you decide to tune your car...OTS or custom...you place your motor at some increased risk. Higher boost, leaner AFR, etc...it will likely have some effect on the longevity of your engine or other parts of your car. THAT'S the price everyone has to be willing to pay. I see two main reasons auto manufacturers choose the base tune on a car like the RDX; it's reliable and it's cheap. The OTS maps, if done properly, are usually still done with a little safety margin (albeit less than stock).

If I was looking to build my RDX into a 400+ HP racer...then I would look for a custom tune and a whole lot more.

I guess all I am trying to say is OTS can be done well. My Speed3 had gone thru a lot. I drove it pretty aggressively with a COBB tune on it since about 5k miles (along with a couple other bolt ons), as mentioned before it had a hydrolocked engine, and at 106k miles when I sold it, it still ran almost as good as new.
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Old Aug 28, 2013 | 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by rxtreme
Giggity!

Most of my questions have been answered regarding this except one - for the moment. I know not to put much faith in baseline numbers when comparing a before/after dyno run (look to the delta, which is the important number), but I cannot help to notice the drastic difference in user65's starting point in the graph and tsjeff's starting point. Were they using the same dyno with similar conditions? I could see the huge difference in baseline's if the dyno's were different run by different people, etc,, but an almost 40 HP difference on the same dyno in similar conditions raises my brow a little. Any thoughts on this?...Other than your older RDX is a little tired...
All tests were done on a dynapack from what I was told. I see the starting point you mention, but only see a potential 10-15 hp difference. His starts at 100, mine starts in the middle of 75-100. Heatsoak was an issue throughout testing so perhaps this might be a factor. Plain and simple the RDX doesn't cool as well on a dyno as it does on the streets.

I'm working on a simple mister system that Hondata wants me to test. Basically a hobbs switch, a wiper fluid pump, and some basic misters. I'll be mounting right behind the beginning of the duct under the hood. If it turns out well I'll post the setup in the DIY section.
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Old Aug 29, 2013 | 12:37 AM
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was that '12 AWD or FWD?

It was done on a AWD
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Old Aug 29, 2013 | 02:47 AM
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Get your CC's ready!!!

http://hondata.com/flashpro_acura_rdx_turbo.html

I'll get to my writeup posted when I get the chance, but here is what you really want:

so cant wait to get a turbo company to step up. should be much easier with a viable way to tune now. everyone start pestering blouch in lebnon pa!
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Old Aug 29, 2013 | 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by user65
Get your CC's ready!!!

http://hondata.com/flashpro_acura_rdx_turbo.html

I'll get to my writeup posted when I get the chance, but here is what you really want:

so cant wait to get a turbo company to step up. should be much easier with a viable way to tune now. everyone start pestering blouch turbo in lebnon pa!
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Old Sep 3, 2013 | 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by user65
All tests were done on a dynapack from what I was told. I see the starting point you mention, but only see a potential 10-15 hp difference. His starts at 100, mine starts in the middle of 75-100. Heatsoak was an issue throughout testing so perhaps this might be a factor. Plain and simple the RDX doesn't cool as well on a dyno as it does on the streets.

I'm working on a simple mister system that Hondata wants me to test. Basically a hobbs switch, a wiper fluid pump, and some basic misters. I'll be mounting right behind the beginning of the duct under the hood. If it turns out well I'll post the setup in the DIY section.
Ok, one last question the gains. Looking at Hondata's site, they have a dyno of someone's RDX with mid-pipe, downpipe (or at least 2nd cat delete), exhaust and intake with a 47 HP gain and 47 Ft-lbs of torque. You were able to get a whopping 71 lb lbs gain. Was that due to the injectors or something else?
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Old Sep 7, 2013 | 02:00 PM
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This is great news! Looks like I'm keeping my RDX for a little while longer!

Thank you Hondata!
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Old Sep 8, 2013 | 01:17 AM
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when is the full write up coming? any video going to be included? need to live vicariously here people im stuck in a sand box.
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Old Sep 11, 2013 | 11:32 AM
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Got my FlashPro last Friday.
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Old Sep 26, 2013 | 11:38 AM
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the reflash with cpe intake, ets tmic and exhuast(no downpipe) runs extremely lean. Flashpro fixes this issue
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Old Sep 26, 2013 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by rxtreme
...If I was looking to build my RDX into a 400+ HP racer...then I would look for a custom tune and a whole lot more...
^ +1

I'm not sure the RDX is the right choice for a 400hp screemer. Perhaps a 300hp daily "soccer mom" driver...I would rather sink my money into a 911, and not have the extra top weight to lug around.
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Old Sep 27, 2013 | 01:15 AM
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^ +1

I'm not sure the RDX is the right choice for a 400hp screemer. Perhaps a 300hp daily "soccer mom" driver...I would rather sink my money into a 911, and not have the extra top weight to lug around.
Agreed, but ~300HP puts the RDX a little closer to where it should be.
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Old Sep 27, 2013 | 10:11 AM
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Still wish Acura had dropped the K23A1-T into the TSX.
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Old Sep 27, 2013 | 10:28 AM
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^ with the shawd!
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Old Sep 27, 2013 | 02:49 PM
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Fuck it. I'm trading my RDX off on a new JGC.
Then we will see who has the bigger gasoline bills.
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Old Oct 31, 2013 | 09:30 AM
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If I'm completely stock and don't plan on being anything other than that, would anyone spend the extra money for this as opposed to just the reflash? I know one of the base maps is basically the reflash, but are there any other little customizations that would push a stock vehicle beyond the reflash and would they be worth the extra $$
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Old Oct 31, 2013 | 10:05 AM
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if you dont plan to ever do anything then reflash will be for you.. sure you might tinker with the flashpro and get a couple more hp for it (if you add the injectors)but is it worth the extra 400$+?? i dont think so
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Old Oct 31, 2013 | 11:30 AM
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A few more HP isn't worth that much to me. Only other reason would be if the dealership reflashed my reflash, but even then it's only $75 to get it re-reflashed. Thanks.
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Old Oct 31, 2013 | 11:36 AM
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I agree with blue sounds like the reflash is for you.
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Old Dec 24, 2013 | 01:17 PM
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Oh yeah, the FlashPro fixes the 2nd O2 sensor so that a defouler is not necessary.

It also corrects the AFR so that the intake can be used.

Rxtreme - mine was jalper pipes I believe. And perfect soup nazi analogy.

Without going into specifics, from what I understand the stock injectors were almost maxed with the mods I have, and would be maxed out with the next mod depending on what it is.
Did they custom tune with the Flashpro, OR was it a basemap?

I'm thinking of getting the Flashpro done and have a DP sitting in the garage waiting for an install (can't find someone to do it!), so was going to do the tune first...
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