Fog Lights w/ Parking Lights
#5
If anybody has a wiring diagram for the RDX, I'm sure I could figure it out. I made the change on my old Subaru back in 2000...it was a simple matter of cutting and splicing some wires around a relay or two in the dashboard... It took maybe 20 minutes of effort once I knew which wires were which.
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#8
Originally Posted by Alexandros
Because.
Thanks!
DDB
#9
Man I didn't know so many people lived in areas with a lot of fog. Don't quite understand the use of fog lights when there is no fog. Hence why they are called "fog" lights. I find them very annoying at night when people have them on with no fog. Just like Europe I think there should be fines for having them on if not necessary.
#10
Originally Posted by ddb
Allow me to re-phrase my question. What function is gained in having the ability to turn on just the fog lights and parking lights? Is there some sort of environment in which such a light setup is useful, or is it due to a desire to look cool?
Thanks!
DDB
Thanks!
DDB
Also, I feel that the use of fog lights should be limited as much as posible (see exception above) to when there are foggy conditions. When that is the case, and I have to turn on the HIDs, it greatly diminishes the usefulness of the fogs due to the fog reflecting back a lot of the output from the HIDs.
It's got nothing to do with "looking cool" as you put it but more to do with preference, control, and safety issues. Does that answer satisfy your curiosity?
Alex
#11
Originally Posted by phoward_15
Man I didn't know so many people lived in areas with a lot of fog. Don't quite understand the use of fog lights when there is no fog. Hence why they are called "fog" lights. I find them very annoying at night when people have them on with no fog. Just like Europe I think there should be fines for having them on if not necessary.
#14
many people have asked this question in the 3G TL forums..assuming that the TL & RDX have the same setup.. the general consensus is that its not possible since the fogs, parking lights, headlights are all controlled through a computer. let me rephrase that..its not an easy switch. it is possible if you put another switch and hardwire your fogs to that switch - then just manually turn them on/off
#15
Originally Posted by Alexandros
The function gained (for me) is the ability to control the amount and kind of light that my vehicle projects onto the road. There are times when I'm just going to make a short trip to the grocery store, etc. when I don't want to use the HIDs because of the shortness of the distance and the DRLs just aren't bright enough to do any good.
Also, I feel that the use of fog lights should be limited as much as posible (see exception above) to when there are foggy conditions. When that is the case, and I have to turn on the HIDs, it greatly diminishes the usefulness of the fogs due to the fog reflecting back a lot of the output from the HIDs.
Don't know the laws up in Canada, but it is illegal in several US states to operate fog lights independent of headlights (despite the fact that many cars actually allow you to do such). California law, for example, states that "A motor vehicle may be equipped with not more than two foglamps that may be used with, but may not be used in substitution of, headlamps."
It's got nothing to do with "looking cool" as you put it but more to do with preference, control, and safety issues. Does that answer satisfy your curiosity?Alex
- DDB
#16
Originally Posted by ddb
The above parapraph is a joke, right? Apparently, you feel that the amount of light needed to operate your vehicle is somehow dependent upon the length of your trip? I assume you are aware that DRLs are not intended to (ever) provide enough light by which to operate the vehicle - that they are intended to make you visible to others during daylight operation (that's why they're called "Daytime RUNNING Lights", as opposed to, say for example "Dusk Headlamps").
Originally Posted by ddb
More joking, I hope?! If not, I would suggest that you have the aim of your headlamps inspected. If you are in a situation where the fog is such that you feel the only way you can safely operate your vehicle is by turning off the low-beam headlamps, you might consider pulling to the side of the road and waiting for conditions to improve, particularly if you are concerned about the your safety and that of others on the road around you.
Originally Posted by ddb
Hmm, I'm still not sold that the motivation is anything other than looking cool. But hey, here's hoping somebody tracks down that wiring diagram and actually tries to mess with the wiring. No doubt it will lead to some comical new threads along the lines of "HELP: lots of electrical problems, dealer wants $2,800 to repair!"
#17
Originally Posted by Alexandros
Boy do you ever like to read in a lot of extra meaning in plain statements. Where did you read me state that "the amount of light needed to operate my vehicle is somehow dependent upon the length of my trip"? Are you delusional or something? And I am perfectly aware what DRL's are for since they have been mandated in Canada since 1991 and hence my statement that the DRL's DO NOT provide enough light. Clean the shit out between your ears.
Thanks in advance to anybody here who is able to have an adult conversation.
- DDB
#18
Originally Posted by ddb
Well, I guess since you've now abandoned the actual topic and resorted to insults and swearing, I can consider this discussion with you over. Maybe somebody else will be able to have a level-headed discussion about the need for fog lights without headlights.
Thanks in advance to anybody here who is able to have an adult conversation.
- DDB
Thanks in advance to anybody here who is able to have an adult conversation.
- DDB
If you don't have anything constructive to add, then stay out of the thread or go troll on some other board. Just because you don't agree with someone else's point of view, it doesn't give you the right to to be rude, condescending, and insulting to another forum member.
Your opinion isn't the ony one and it certainly isn't the only correct one just because it's yours. If you want a discussion....an adult one as you put it......then calm down with the attacks and learn to get along with the rest of us here that are looking to learn more about our RDXs, do some of our own work on them, customize them to our liking and tastes, and increase our general knowledge.
Alex
#19
actually, this thread got derailed pretty early on...as do all threads of this nature on this forum.
Someone is asking HOW to do something to his car. He shouldn't have to suffer the arrogance of 50 people telling him he's stupid for wanting to do it! He didn't ask for opinions on it, he asked for how to do it. If you don't know, shut the F up...seriously. this forum annoys me because it happens with EVERYTHING someone asks about.
Someone is asking HOW to do something to his car. He shouldn't have to suffer the arrogance of 50 people telling him he's stupid for wanting to do it! He didn't ask for opinions on it, he asked for how to do it. If you don't know, shut the F up...seriously. this forum annoys me because it happens with EVERYTHING someone asks about.
#20
Like someone said earlier, if the wiring diagram is posted for the switch in the steering stalk, I, as well as others, can figure it out. It shouldn't be that complicated...I did it on my STi....
Why, because I wanted to.
Why, because I wanted to.
#21
i believe that the fogs are run through the computer of the car. as you turn on the fogs from within the car, it send a signal to the computer and the comp will turn on the fogs. if you want ur fogs to turn on with your DRLs you need to bypass the computer and put a switch on the interior with different wiring to the fogs. similar to installing fogs on a car that did not come with them.
#22
Originally Posted by Alexandros
Where did you read me state that "the amount of light needed to operate my vehicle is somehow dependent upon the length of my trip"?
Originally Posted by Alexandros
There are times when I'm just going to make a short trip to the grocery store, etc. when I don't want to use the HIDs because of the shortness of the distance...
All of the electrical funtions -- from security to windows to lighting -- is controlled by the Multiplex Integrated Control Unit, which is a part of the under-dash fuse/relay box.
When you use the combination light swich (the turn signal stalk), you are actually sending a request to the MICU, which in turn will power the relays for the parking lights and the fog lights. In the case of the fog lights, the MICU must see that "on" conditions are met, ie: headlights on and high beams off.
The CLS only communicates with the MICU, so the fog light relay would have to be cut from the MICU and powered by parking light relay output to avoid MICU fog light logic, and still control the fogs from the CLS parking light position. The problem is that the parking lights are on a 15A fuse and the fogs are on a 20A fuse.
As playa4real said; it may be better to run power from the under-hood fuse/relay box to a dedicated fog switch, and cut out the MICU and under-dash fuse/relay and CLS altogether.
Last edited by XLR8R; 09-06-2008 at 04:18 PM.
#23
Actually I find the need for illumination to be inversely proportional to the shortness of the distance. So, when going to the corner mailbox, instead of using HIDs, fogs, parking lights, whatever, there is no better device than a Petzl Ultra. No special wiring needed!
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