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Old May 29, 2018 | 11:17 AM
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Exclamation Weird ratatat noise dashboard when starting

There's a weird noise, sort of a ratatat (like a quite machine gun?) from my dashboard. No clue why. It stops after a few moments (30 -60 seconds). After that, everything about the car seems fine. But this noise is _wrong_ and natch, I'm concerned.

Scares me because I've never heard of this and cannot find anything similar on Acurazine.

Any ideas?

I have recorded it several times and Acurazine won't accept recordings longer than 5M and my shortest is 13. I'm on my way to work soon, and will try to get a short recording, haha. and will post it when I'm back from teaching
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Old May 29, 2018 | 02:45 PM
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There is a fairly common problem in RDXs of a HVAC blend door actuator making sort of groaning noise while it adjusts. It sounds like it is coming from under the steering wheel.
On my wife's 08 MDX, the CD changer does not & has not worked. Now it makes a horrible loud ratatat sound for a bit when you first start the vehicle. But you can pretty clearly tell it is coming from the CD changer area.
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Old May 29, 2018 | 03:29 PM
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Really!? That's great info and it does sound like mine.
Let me see if I can upload the sound here
Ah, it worked. Is this a similar sound?(oops, forgive my dust and cat fur on the dash)
When I leave to teach soon (I teach afternoon and evening) I'll check the CD. The radio is fine.
Are you planning on getting it fixed? Should I take it to the autoshop?

Thanks for your input!!
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Old May 29, 2018 | 03:56 PM
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I can confirm the passenger blend door is your cause. I just replaced mine about 3 days ago due to the same sound. You can pick them up online for like $50 and it takes some patience to replace but can be done in about 20 minutes. It requires a T15 torx bit though.
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Old May 29, 2018 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by WellHellWtvr215
I can confirm the passenger blend door is your cause. I just replaced mine about 3 days ago due to the same sound. You can pick them up online for like $50 and it takes some patience to replace but can be done in about 20 minutes. It requires a T15 torx bit though.
I am going to be replacing passenger air mix motor. Service manual states to remove glove box and under cover bellow glove box. Also remove clie ate control unit. But it still looks like it’s tight to get to it, do I need to remove air blower unit also?
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Old May 30, 2018 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by russianDude

I am going to be replacing passenger air mix motor. Service manual states to remove glove box and under cover bellow glove box. Also remove clie ate control unit. But it still looks like it’s tight to get to it, do I need to remove air blower unit also?
It's definitely a tighter fit, I had scratched up hands for a few days. You don't need to take the blower motor out.

The climate control box will be 2 electrical connectors and 3 torx screws. after that's out of the way, it's 3 torx screws for the blend door actuator. Make sure when you go back on that you get the pieces lined up, they're basically dowel pins that fit in a curved plastic bit. Otherwise, it's rather straight forward. I personally have a 1/4 inch T15 torx that allowed me to do the job quickly, and if I remember, I may have used a small 3 inch extension on one or two of the screws, but nothing more than those tools are needed (I guess aside from the 2 10mm bolts to pull the glove box off)
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Old May 30, 2018 | 09:15 AM
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It's definitely a tighter fit, I had scratched up hands for a few days. You don't need to take the blower motor out.

The climate control box will be 2 electrical connectors and 3 torx screws. after that's out of the way, it's 3 torx screws for the blend door actuator. Make sure when you go back on that you get the pieces lined up, they're basically dowel pins that fit in a curved plastic bit. Otherwise, it's rather straight forward. I personally have a 1/4 inch T15 torx that allowed me to do the job quickly, and if I remember, I may have used a small 3 inch extension on one or two of the screws, but nothing more than those tools are needed (I guess aside from the 2 10mm bolts to pull the glove box off)

Thank you for your response. So no special screw drivers, just regular 1/4” drive with T15 trox to remove it climate control and blend motor?
just to be clear, I am replacing passenger air mix motor, not the Mode motor (changes where air blows, front, window, feet and etc)
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Old May 30, 2018 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by russianDude



Thank you for your response. So no special screw drivers, just regular 1/4” drive with T15 trox to remove it climate control and blend motor?
just to be clear, I am replacing passenger air mix motor, not the Mode motor (changes where air blows, front, window, feet and etc)
I completely got mixed up with another car/part, you don't need the torx, just a 7mm socket to get the climate control box and blend door motor off. My apologies there.

a 10mm to get the glovebox off, and a 1/4 inch 7mm socket/ratchet for the rest. And you are correct, passenger blend door motor. the mode motor is actually worse to get to so pray you don't ever have to do that one!
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Old May 30, 2018 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by WellHellWtvr215
It's definitely a tighter fit, I had scratched up hands for a few days. You don't need to take the blower motor out.

The climate control box will be 2 electrical connectors and 3 torx screws. after that's out of the way, it's 3 torx screws for the blend door actuator. Make sure when you go back on that you get the pieces lined up, they're basically dowel pins that fit in a curved plastic bit. Otherwise, it's rather straight forward. I personally have a 1/4 inch T15 torx that allowed me to do the job quickly, and if I remember, I may have used a small 3 inch extension on one or two of the screws, but nothing more than those tools are needed (I guess aside from the 2 10mm bolts to pull the glove box off)
Originally Posted by WellHellWtvr215
I completely got mixed up with another car/part, you don't need the torx, just a 7mm socket to get the climate control box and blend door motor off. My apologies there.

a 10mm to get the glovebox off, and a 1/4 inch 7mm socket/ratchet for the rest. And you are correct, passenger blend door motor. the mode motor is actually worse to get to so pray you don't ever have to do that one!
thanks. Its pretty tight, but I will try without removing blower.
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Old Jun 2, 2018 | 09:45 PM
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Replaced it today. No need to remove the blower, but it was really tight and you need to have short screw-driver 2-3in, there is very little room to remove the screws. Works great, part cost under $50, and dealer wanted $320! took about an hour.
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Old Jun 3, 2018 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by russianDude
Replaced it today. No need to remove the blower, but it was really tight and you need to have short screw-driver 2-3in, there is very little room to remove the screws. Works great, part cost under $50, and dealer wanted $320! took about an hour.
Awesome! Super nice to be able to start your car and not have 60 seconds of ear piercing rattle isn't it?
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Old Jun 4, 2018 | 06:01 AM
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Awesome! Super nice to be able to start your car and not have 60 seconds of ear piercing rattle isn't it?
yep, it used to click and tick for 5-10min non stop, used to drive me crazzy
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Old Aug 17, 2018 | 07:44 AM
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Thanks for all your suggestions folks. I'm very unmechanical, so I copied your suggestions to take to my mechanic and planned to post my results.
Time went on.
I got accustomed to the noise. It would go on for a few minutes then stop.
I don't have a clue when the noise stopped altogether.
So, I guess I have the first self-healing car.
Thanks for the input and reassurance that it wasn't a sign of the car's dying.
It didn't
Best regards,
PB
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Old Aug 17, 2018 | 12:14 PM
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Either a self-healing car, or the mix motor just died altogether after all its struggles...
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