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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 11:31 AM
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Spoke to my dealer today who said the navi is a standard feature and not an option. Just passing along the 411.
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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wow that RL territory.....i hope it cost nowhere near an RL
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 12:56 PM
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If you are right, I imagine that ALL Acuras will come w/ nav standard in the future.

If you get a chance, ask your dealer what the source of their information is. Its likely they are guessing and don't know much more than us.
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 01:25 PM
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He doesn't seem the type to just spit out information. He replied pretty quickly when I asked him, it wasn't like he pondered the question so I am giving him the benefit of the doubt. Also, if you study the RDX dash, the nav is pretty well integrated, i.e., it looks like they would have to mold two different dashes to accomodate models with navi and without, moreso then other Honda / Acura models.

I guess we'll know for sure soon.
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 07:31 PM
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JShamoon is correct..RDX does come with standard navi from what one of the sale person told me at the acura dealer...
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 08:33 PM
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While this has to be confirmed still, I've been saying this for a while now......
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 10:01 PM
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hey colin, you work at a dealership, dont you know msrp and options and stuff like that, give us some dirt
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by loulinjai
hey colin, you work at a dealership, dont you know msrp and options and stuff like that, give us some dirt
The best info anyone has got right now is est. $33,000
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 12:15 AM
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hey colin, you work at a dealership, dont you know msrp and options and stuff like that, give us some dirt
If I was privy to that info, I wouldn't be able to share it if Honda didn't want it shared. I'll find out with the rest of you. I do get hints and suggestions though, and combined with my time with Acura (11 years) I can sometimes speculate pretty clearly on what they have up their sleeves. I think MSRP (with dest) will be closer to 34,990 than 33,000
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 10:34 AM
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Damn...$35k...

Hmm...guess I'll just have to get my salesguy to let me sneak one away for the afternoon while my car is in service in a few months.
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 12:32 PM
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I tried telling you guys Navi would be standard a month ago! No one would listen.
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 11:17 PM
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most dealers especially the sales force dont know thier head from thier ass... it takes almost no real training or sharing of inside info to sell a car....

iknow, beacuse i used to work at a honda dealer and i knew about the product and future honda products than the entire sales force combined.
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Colin
If I was privy to that info, I wouldn't be able to share it if Honda didn't want it shared. I'll find out with the rest of you. I do get hints and suggestions though, and combined with my time with Acura (11 years) I can sometimes speculate pretty clearly on what they have up their sleeves. I think MSRP (with dest) will be closer to 34,990 than 33,000
if navi is standard, i can see this being accurate
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Old Mar 16, 2006 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 97AcuraCL
most dealers especially the sales force dont know thier head from thier ass... it takes almost no real training or sharing of inside info to sell a car....

iknow, beacuse i used to work at a honda dealer and i knew about the product and future honda products than the entire sales force combined.
I am 99% sure that the RDX will come standard with the 5th gen nav. I have several clients that work for TS trim, the company the designed the interior components for the RDX and TL, and from what I have heard they have only built one dash surround. Unless they have a trip computer in the non-nav version, it would be a clear line of reason to believe that nav will be standard.

By the way, some of us sales guys know our head from our a$$. Also, I took some close-up pics of the prototype at the Cols. auto show on preview night. Here's the link...

http://robsellsacura.com/Education.php
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Old Mar 16, 2006 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by rmralston

By the way, some of us sales guys know our head from our a$$. Also, I took some close-up pics of the prototype at the Cols. auto show on preview night. Here's the link...

http://robsellsacura.com/Education.php
Clearly you do, and your participation here is welcome! Thanks for joining us and providing us with some new insight.
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Old Mar 16, 2006 | 06:07 PM
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Clearly you do, and your participation here is welcome! Thanks for joining us and providing us with some new insight.
Thank you. I've been around the site for a while and figured I could add something to the discussions. Feel free to contact me with questions anytime and I'll make sure to post any new information.

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Originally Posted by rmralston
I am 99% sure that the RDX will come standard with the 5th gen nav. I have several clients that work for TS trim, the company the designed the interior components for the RDX and TL, and from what I have heard they have only built one dash surround. Unless they have a trip computer in the non-nav version, it would be a clear line of reason to believe that nav will be standard.

By the way, some of us sales guys know our head from our a$$. Also, I took some close-up pics of the prototype at the Cols. auto show on preview night. Here's the link...

http://robsellsacura.com/Education.php
It might be possible that they will do something similar to the MDX where the non-navi version has a display screen for trip information where the nav screen should be. I'd be curious what they would do with the control panel area though...
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 09:13 AM
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It might be possible that they will do something similar to the MDX where the non-navi version has a display screen for trip information where the nav screen should be. I'd be curious what they would do with the control panel area though...
I'll be interested to see the final product at the ride-n-drive in May. I'll keep you posted if I here anything new.
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 09:55 AM
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I think it should be standard. it will be pretty stupid to go the mdx way again, considering its 5 years since then. if theres wiring for screen and everything, there might as well be navi

I think acura is trying to dump all the features from the RL into other models, and new stuff into RL. i mean you will see things like realtime traffic and paddle shifters and sh-awd. I believe these features will be seen in future generations of more acura vehicles.
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by loulinjai
I believe these features will be seen in future generations of more acura vehicles.
This has pretty much been confirmed, SH-AWD is the future for all Acura's except for possibly the entry level car.
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 07:54 PM
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This has pretty much been confirmed, SH-AWD is the future for all Acura's except for possibly the entry level car.
I think Colin and rmralston are in a good position.

One of the biggest complaints I hear is that all Acuras are front wheel drive.

This is especially true from motorhead types, who are not the majority of car owners, but they are influencers... people in positions like: car mag editors, media, ones mechanic, ones car-know-it-all friend, etc. Its already known Acura is a great value, but with all of them going to a good technology AWD in the next 3 years, one of the few complaints you can find against Acura is gone. Acura will start taking more share from Lexus, BMW, etc. (my opinion is they should move the RSX to Honda though. It hurts their luxury image to sell a car that starts at 20k and appeals most to the 16-21 yr age group).
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 08:10 PM
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(my opinion is they should move the RSX to Honda though. It hurts their luxury image to sell a car that starts at 20k and appeals most to the 16-21 yr age group).
I was around for that debate back in 1995/1996. I revolved around the Integra back then. Acura wanted to end the car in that generation and give us the CL as a replacement, thus moving the brand slightly upmarket. However, back then we were selling almost 60,000 units of coupes and sedans and the dealer body didn't want to give that up (can you blame them?).

The decision was made to bring the CL to market, and contunue the Integra past it's intended production end date. This meant it went "two Civic cycles" before the RSX came out.

Now it's "deja vu all over again" The RSX is at that point, and there are rumors that the next gen car (call it CL or RSX, who knows?) will be on the next get TSX chassis.....
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Colin
I was around for that debate back in 1995/1996. I revolved around the Integra back then. Acura wanted to end the car in that generation and give us the CL as a replacement, thus moving the brand slightly upmarket. However, back then we were selling almost 60,000 units of coupes and sedans and the dealer body didn't want to give that up (can you blame them?).

The decision was made to bring the CL to market, and contunue the Integra past it's intended production end date. This meant it went "two Civic cycles" before the RSX came out.

Now it's "deja vu all over again" The RSX is at that point, and there are rumors that the next gen car (call it CL or RSX, who knows?) will be on the next get TSX chassis.....
Colin,

It's great to have the insight of someone who has been in the trenches and can draw on the wisdom that experience provides.

Rumor has it that the RSX is done, at least with Acura badging. I've heard that from my district & zone rep as well as a client that works closely with R&D. A huge tell-tale sign is that the Acura sponsored racing team, Realtime Racing, is moving from the RSX-S to the TSX. Also, we provide the vehicles for the Mid-Ohio race school which just changed out 16 RSX-S for 16 TSX manuals.

I'd bet the house that we'll see a coupe based on the TSX in the next 2-3 yrs. Imagine the new AWD CL...nice!

-Rob
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 08:34 PM
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Hi rob,

Personally, I think there's one more year in the RSX (and S2000). The "all cars to have side curtain airbags by 2007" decree, is probably talking about cars introduced in 2007. since the 2007 RSX comes out in Nov. 2006 it's probably safe.

IMO the Real Time guys are moving to the TSX for two reasons: the double wishbones are more suited for real racing than the struts are, and also the larger 2.4 has more torque coming off the turns. The RSX with the 2.4 in it was much more competitive last year than in years past.

AWD CL? Only if they mate up a MT to that thing and keep the pounds off! BTW, I like your page, check out my blog www.satoauto.com/cblog.
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Hi rob,

Personally, I think there's one more year in the RSX (and S2000). The "all cars to have side curtain airbags by 2007" decree, is probably talking about cars introduced in 2007. since the 2007 RSX comes out in Nov. 2006 it's probably safe.

IMO the Real Time guys are moving to the TSX for two reasons: the double wishbones are more suited for real racing than the struts are, and also the larger 2.4 has more torque coming off the turns. The RSX with the 2.4 in it was much more competitive last year than in years past.

AWD CL? Only if they mate up a MT to that thing and keep the pounds off! BTW, I like your page, check out my blog www.satoauto.com/cblog.
Great Points and thanks for the feedback on the site. It's hard to set yourself apart from the competition. I'd rather be chillin' with a mai-tai at Duke's...
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Colin,
I'm impressed by the professional quality of your video editing. I've dabbled w/ Adobe Premiere, mostly just for vacation type videos. Good work.
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 03:45 AM
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Thanks, but I'm certainly not ready for a change in career (either in front or behind the camera). I use Vegas 4 to edit my videos. I tried Premier and it's just too difficult. Maybe if used other Adobe products I'd view it diferently, but I quickly got Vegas doing most everything I needed it to in significantly less time.
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 03:00 PM
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I asked a salesman today (while I was in for TSX service) and he said Navi would be the only option. He said pricing would be in the mid 30s. Of course, he doesn't have official info.

Oh.. he also said it should be available in Mid May.. as little as 2 months away.
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 07:12 PM
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We'll find out in May at the ride & drive about the navi but your guy is wrong on the dealer ETA. We just got the move for May/June and the RDX was not on it.
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by rmralston
We'll find out in May at the ride & drive about the navi but your guy is wrong on the dealer ETA. We just got the move for May/June and the RDX was not on it.
I can confirm that, this means we probably won't see them till July
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 02:09 PM
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There is a lot of talk about how the RL has it standard, Acura learnt its lesson - didn't they admit that they are going to release the RL with navi as an option now? To lower costs? I imagine they would do the same for the RDX. OTOH, I agree with others, I believe navi will become standard on all Acuras eventually
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 04:00 PM
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- didn't they admit that they are going to release the RL with navi as an option now? To lower costs?
I'd be interested in where you saw this. I have heard absolutely nothing of the sort! I'm not saying you're wrong about the possibility, but I do doubt that it would significantly lower costs.
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Does AcuraLink with real-time traffic info require a monthly payment to get the service? The RL has the same so it would be a good comparison, but I don't know if RL's AcuraLink requires a monthly payment.
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Yes, it does. You are required to pay $4 in addition to the XM subscription to use the real time traffic feature.
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 12:24 PM
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RDX cost

I would be interested in the RDX as a lower priced wagon.
It would seem that navi, and blower should be options to reduce the price.
My wife wants one, but around town, this is too much.
On the road I would prefer my TL
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 08:20 PM
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Well I'm hearing rumblings that Navi may be an option. This could allow a $33 and $35K price point.
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by waltdaniels
I would be interested in the RDX as a lower priced wagon.
It would seem that navi, and blower should be options to reduce the price.
My wife wants one, but around town, this is too much.
On the road I would prefer my TL
Walt
Maybe you should wait for the next gen CR-V?
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 08:27 AM
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I don't know about the next generation CR-V. My problem with that is that before my Acura's, I had an Accord. Honda dealer was lousy. I currently have an TL and an Integra.
The Acura dealer (Superior Acura) is wonderful, excellent service department. I would be reluctant to switch back to a Honda. Maybe less the GPS and blower the rDX would be viable. Price is not the problem, it's just too much car for around town.
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by waltdaniels
I don't know about the next generation CR-V. My problem with that is that before my Acura's, I had an Accord. Honda dealer was lousy. I currently have an TL and an Integra.
The Acura dealer (Superior Acura) is wonderful, excellent service department. I would be reluctant to switch back to a Honda. Maybe less the GPS and blower the rDX would be viable. Price is not the problem, it's just too much car for around town.
I can see it minus the Navi, but the blower is something people have been whining about for so long that removing it or making it optional would be a huge mistake. Plus, with the SH-AWD system, the car would be a total slug without the blower.
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Old Apr 8, 2006 | 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by waltdaniels
I would be interested in the RDX as a lower priced wagon.
It would seem that navi, and blower should be options to reduce the price.
My wife wants one, but around town, this is too much.
On the road I would prefer my TL
Walt
The new CR-V will be available in Aug/Sep. That will be a lower priced version of the RDX, likely without the blower, Nav, leather, SH-AWD, with a much lower price. Conflicting information on wether or not it will be based on the same platform

http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=518033

Our local Honda dealer is better than our local Acura dealer. Maybe you just need to find a better dealer.
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