Pote757

I just had my first A1 service. The friggin car nagged and nagged me to get it done for 2 weeks. Not only on the MID but in the messages too. Every damn time I turned it, it pops up with the annoying reminder. It had 15% life left on the oil. Just like with the annoying seatbelt chime. Just shut up car. I know it needs service in about 750 miles, get off my back, beotch. Just like I know the value of the belt. But when I need to get my cell phone off my belt, or my wallet out of my pocket, or just need to straighten my pants leg out cuz I have a painful man toe workin. Jezus. I will never buy another one of these cars designed for complete morons and utterly irresponsible owners. Too much information makes people block it out. It's just not a pleasure to drive. I'm going back to Lexus - an IS will be a nice change.

So since it's soooo important to worry drivers to death when ever a seatbelt in the FRONT comes unbuckled, doest it make sense to warn about the back?? I'd rather know that a 9 year old kid is loose than a 38 year old rider up front. And while the over zealous naggineers are at it, why dont they throw up an alarm for when a driver does not come to a complete stop at the right turn on red? Or when I make a left turn or right turn without using the turn signal? Oh you say, there MIGHT be legit reasons to make manuvers that mimic rolling a RTOR, or not signaling a turn, but how is it different from the seat belt?

Thank god we have the freedom to be responsible for our own actions on these examples. But again I ask, why do they ONLY pick on the the seat belt behavior when there are so many other unsafe activities that the processor can detect.

Lrpba300

Man, you sound like you need some massive amounts of cheese with that whine!

Patronus

Think positive thoughts....and write about something that someone can do something about.

This post is a waste of time and bits.

loulinjai

Lexus...are you kidding? (in terms of nagging). All Toyota/Lexus Navis makes you push "I Agree" EVERY time you start the car, before you can use the Nav system, just so you don't sue if you crash playing with your Navi. I was in a new camry, and not only does it tell the driver to put on the seat belt. I unbuckled in the parking lot in the passenger seat and it beeped at me the whole time until the car was turned off.

omgacuralol

you're kidding yourself if you dont think 90+ % of new cars are like this...

RDX22

All new cars are like this. Deal with it.

ThePlainsman

Most truly upscale cars with DRLs allow you to toggle them off when you don't need them. Not the RDX. Why the babysitter? I won't agree with Pote that this car is made for idiots, but the inability to toggle off DRLs at your discretion does make the RDX seem like a Wal-Mart product sometimes.

jcg878

DRLs do not exist for just your benefit, but so other drivers can see you. Personally, I'm glad that you can't turn yours off.

jumbosizeme79

you are funny, i think legally all cars w/ navi makes you press "ok" or "Agree" at the start, and im not sure on this one, but i dont think many cars warn you when your back seat seatbelt isnt buckled...

mau108

the only reason it has come down to this is because of the amount of irresponsible and arrogant drivers on the road of NA.

If everyone would have turned on their lights manually when it was getting dark or excess amounts of fog outside then there wouldn't be the need for DRL's.

If everyone wore a seatbelt and there were no fatalities that involved someone not wearing a seatbelt then there would not be a reason for those annoying chimes and lights.

If every illiterate moron knew how to read and take care of their car properly then there would not be a need for a maintenance minder.

And as a final note, if you find the RDX annoying, try not having your seatbelt buckled in a Ford Taurus. You'll rip your hair out.

jcg878

One note mau, I believe the primary function of the DRLs is to increase visibility with sun glare. Since I drive directly west each morning, this is when I notice DRLs on cars in my rear-view mirror. Cars with them stand out, cars without them are difficult to see.

LuvMyTSX

Yeah, because the RDX is the only car in the world with little reminders like these.....

Good luck with your Lexus, which doesn't even let you use your navi while moving.

mau108

are you serious? oh you can't input anything while your driving? LAME!

cyrusthegreat

LuvMyTSX is right, a friend of mine has a Lexus RX400h and the NAV screen gets locked as the car starts moving. It doesn't even let you go through your MP3 folders on the NAV screen while moving. It's so annoying, he has to park his car everytime he wants to enter an address

chicagoTL

i don't understand how that's not a deal breaker for more people

mau108

different people have different needs. I barely use the navi in the X so if i had gotten the lexus with navi i probably wouldn't have noticed this flaw lol...

X also is missing some important stuff (power tail gate, powered passenger seat in 07 model etc...)

cwepruk

I hate the maintenance minder. Remind me once in a while, then shut off or go away. Not having to press the button 2-3-4 times to get back to my normal display.

ThePlainsman

If you can't see a car that doesn't have DRLs in bright sunshine then you have no business being on the road or having a driver's license. DRLs orginated in Scandinavian countries where natural lighting runs on a different schedule than here. Then the Canadians adopted it, as they adopt many socialistic ideas from Europe. Car makers who sell cars in the USA, however, saw it the way capitalists see everything: as another revenue stream. "Convince" politicians and highway administration officials and safety board paper pushers of the profitability...er necessity of DRLs and like magic, automakers manage to get them into certain models, adding to the price. The Kook Aid drinkers buy it.

If it was all about safety, DRLs would exist in EVERY car model sold in this country instead of just GM products and Acura RDXs and a smattering of others. If it was all about safety, some models would not have a toggle to shut 'em off when you want to.

honda_nut

How about you stop being a troll and go to a saturn board. DRLs are being added to every redesigned or refreshed vehicle. Have you checked out any of the new cars that have come out recently. All new cars have them from Audi, BMW, Honda, Mercedes, and Lexus, and almost all other brands. Why would you want to turn off DRLs? If you had a switch, then no one would use them.

sj993

DRL's are mandatory in Canada and for good reason. GM has had DRL's in their cars for years and every manufactuer is putting them into their cars as well.

So if you hate DRL's that much just pull the fuse out so they won't run and be done with it because we could really careless about your Saturn and it's ability to turn them off with a switch.

Acura604

oh stfu with your stupid ass comments.. please do us all a favour and sell your RDX so you can stick to the POS domestic crap you enjoy so much... just leave already!

CGTSX2004

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I don't understand the disdain for the DRLs. It's not like they interfere with the operation of the cars in any way. They are also usually to low powered to cause anyone to be blinded by them so you can't even really complain about that.

Does anyone have a good, legitimate, justifiable reason for wanting to get rid of DRLs?

mau108

I agree, when your driving your not going to see your cars DRL's so what the hell is the problem with it?

ThePlainsman if you have one valid reason for why DRL's should not be on cars please do let us know (please don't say it doesn't look good, that just does not cut it)

sj993

They serve the intended purpose and I am glad they are on the car. I wish they had been on my accord too.

omgacuralol

maybe he's frequently runnin from the five-ohhh

chicagoTL

Have there been any conclusive studies showing DRL's increase safety? Vice Versa?

mau108

the topic has been discussed on this forum one too many times, do a quick search and it should give you some insight.

back on topic....

chicagoTL

back on topic to what... that the 'RDX is an annoying nag designed for idiots'?

A good write up on the pros and cons of DRLs:

http://www.nordicgroup.us/drl/

Personally I find DRL's a good idea in theory but generally poor in their implementation. I'd prefer a way to turn them off when desired and consider the lack of a switch in the RDX a drawback (albeit fairly insignificant).

AcuraDriver89

Does the car detect rear seat belt de-buckling in the back? I know that it doesnt' beep or alert you if there's a passenger back there without a seatbelt on...but does it tell you if a seatbelt is removed? I never noticed that...?

mau108

i don't think it does..although probably would be a good safety idea.

lilfeat

It does not, since the feature this is tied to is the air bag power down sensor, in case a kid is in the seat.
The car only knows that there is a passenger there because of the air bag sensor.
I guess it assumes there is someone in the drivers seat since the car is moving.

As for the DRLs, they make me angry when I am laying prone on the hood of my car while I am driving it. Then I can see them. Else, I am not aware that I even have them.

Otherwise, maybe some people choose to reject what they feel is authority at every turn.

As for the MTCE reminder, I kind of agree that it is a bit busy, but the effeor required to clear it does not strain my thumb.

I do recall when I researched the car, it was obvious that the car was going to let me know when to service it. If that was at all a concern to me, I would have headed down the street to another dealer.

MMike1981

[QUOTE=CGTSX2004
Does anyone have a good, legitimate, justifiable reason for wanting to get rid of DRLs?[/QUOTE]


um.....yea.....i heard one time they hinder private investigation work

bwahahahahha

White92

OP your first post was a little hard to follow. But from what I gather, you are annoyed that it's telling you there is 15% oil life remaining and you think you have another 750 miles or so before you need to change it? It's actually telling you to do it now. When it reaches 15%, it's time to do it right then, not later on down the road. So just get it changed when it reaches 15% and then you won't have to post on here to complain that it's nagging you too much.

MMike1981

i frankly dont mind it, big deal u have to hit a button

i think its good motivation to keep the car uptodate and not put off the oil change or anything else lol

my first (and only) oil change in the 2007 came in at i think it was 3700. pretty quick compared to the 5k i had been reading about and what was recommended.

the 2008 lasted longer and the mileage came in at 4400. i broke them in the same way. thought it was odd given the difference and being the same vehicle.

maybe the seasons attributed to it 07 had from Sept through Dec. the 08 was dec through current.

benf007

my gripe is the HFL confirmation every time it gets a command. Why do I need to confirm its calling "name here". How about saying its calling and let me cancel it if the name is wrong? How about when it asks a question it puts itself in listening mode. After all it did ask for a response. Why do I need to push the button to reply? We all know people that don't listen after asking a question but why my car?

MMike1981

the button activates a prompt, the system may be intuitive but its not THAT intuitive it doesnt know when its receiving a command unless u tell it a command is coming; hence the button push.....isnt that how the nav works as well...u obviouslyt have to activate teh system to let it know you want it to do something.

benf007

MMike1981: True it activates a prompt, and when the user wants to make a command it is perfectly fine to have to push a button. My gripe is when the system then asks for a resonse like "Do you want to call ...?" why can't the system end ready for the reply? Even better- WHY ASK? If it is wrong I can cancel.

MMike1981

it may not know you are done with your voice command....so the 2nd press is moe of a confirmation

Pote757

My gripe is that every time you start the car it hits you with the service screen and you have to punch out of it. Then it sends the Nav a message. Then it beeps about something else. It would be much more forgivable if it just had the little yellow "i" icon lit after the first time. And if there is 15% left, how does that mean change it RIGHT NOW? If your credit card has 15% left on the limit, does that mean you cant charge any more? If you have 15% battery left in your laptop, does that mean you cant finish your work and you have to shut down right then? Seems you are missing out on 15% of your life if you think that way pal.

My real beef ( - sorry I wasnt more clear at first - ) is that the car dings and beeps and nags drivers about too much - to the point that you just dont pay attention anymore. Save the big messages for "you are out of oil bud", "your kids has crawled out of his seat" and other truely dangerous conditions.

Here is another example of what I'm talking about. We know there are no automatic lights. I'm cool with that - I just leave the lights on all the time. The car turns them off when you close the door (as I have it set - at worst 30 seconds later, I think). So why does it ding at you that the lights are on when you open the door. IT KNOWS that they will go out. Why ding at me??? So now I become numb to the ding. Because it serves me no purpose. And the information light lit up for almost 1000 miles. I jsut will learn to ignore it and will be less likely to pay it attention.

My deal is that I'm a big boy, I know how to drive a car. It's only a friggin car after all, 20 billion of them on the roads. If this was the space shuttle or a helo that would be another thing.

BTW, are there any pilots on the board? I'm sure you can testify about dinger overload and the operator studies about how they get tuned out.

So what about it having more real important safety stuff like back seatbelt disconnect warnings, telling you to use the turn signal, etc. Here is one - if the wipers are on indicates it's raining or snowing) and the temp is 30-33, why not have it warn you about possible ice on overpasses? Not too much logic for the computer on that one, eh? If we as consumers really care about safety, we should demand more than what we have today.

White92

Well, I don't really think that credit cards or laptop batteries have anything to do with oil in the RDX, but that's the way it is. When it reaches 15% or below, it's time to change the oil. Sure you could go to zero I guess. But it's ok to change it at 15%. The manual even says it's ok. At my dealership, we do free oil changes on every car that we sell for as long as that customer owns the car. Once the cars show 15% or below, we will change it for free. They are actually changing my oil this very second. Seriously, it's on the lift right now. On my way to work today, it flashed 15% and my A1 service, so I brought it in and they're changing it. Pretty easy. I didn't get all worked up that it beeped at me.

If my car telling me it's time to perform service on it got me so worked up that I had to post online about how stupid it was, I might want to cut out some of the stress in my life. I'll take that "nag" any day of the week over alot of other cars out there that have check engine lights come on randomly.