4 to 5 Lug Conversion
02-17-2008, 11:21 PM
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4 to 5 Lug Conversion
Yes' Im a newby but not to the auto game, I've owned more than 50 cars, I've had a few Legend Coupes and other Honda Cars. This is my first CL, I own a 97. Has anyone done a 4 to5 Conversion or can provide a good link to doing so? As many Cl's that Ive seen on Cardomain, it doesn't seem like many owners use this site. Surely there has got to be a CL xpert out there. Let's find some way to promote usage of this site (CL Community). Great site, we need more input. 
02-18-2008, 11:34 AM
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THIS IS NOT MY WRITE UP NOR AM I TAKING CREDIT FOR IT. THIS WAS WRITTEN BY "CHRIS" ON ACCORDINGLY DONE.
5th Gen 5 Lug Swap and Accord V6 Brake Upgrade (With Optional Legend Dual-Piston Brake Upgrade)
By: Chris Peters
Parts needed:
94-95 Acura Legend GS Sedan Dual-Piston Front Calipers
-OR-
95+ Honda Accord V6/92+ Honda Prelude VTEC Front Calipers (1L, 1R)
23T Caliper Brackets** (2)
95-98 Honda Odyssey/95-97 Honda Accord V6 Front Knuckles* (1L, 1R)
95-98 Honda Odyssey Front Wheel Bearings (2)
95-98 Honda Odyssey Front Hubs (2)
98+ Acura ITR/97+ Honda Prelude Front Rotors(2)
97+ Honda Prelude Rear Hub/Bearing Assemblies (2)
98+ Acura ITR/98+ Honda Accord V6 Rear Rotors (2)
Rotor Screws (8)
20 lugnuts
4 5x114.3 Wheels with ~42? offset
Notes:
* If you have a 95-97 Accord, there is a chance that it already has the proper knuckles. I don't recommend buying the knuckles until you find out for certain that the new bearings do not bolt right into your original knuckle.
** You may have to order the 23T brackets seperately from the calipers. Legend calipers often come with 28T brackets, and Accord V6 calipers come with 25T brackets. Prelude VTEC calipers come with 23T brackets.
Front:
Raise the front of the car on jackstands. Remove the front wheels. Remove the 2 17mm bolts securing the brake caliper to the knuckle.
Remove 14mm banjo bolt from brake line, drain fluid into container, then pull off the caliper and set it aside. Do not attempt to drink brake fluid. Remove the 2 10mm bolts securing the brake line to the knuckle.
Using impact wrench or breaker bar, remove the spindle nut from the axle. Remove cotter pins from the lower ball joint, upper ball joint, and tie rod end castle nuts. Remove all three 17mm castle nuts. Pop tie rod end out of knuckle, lightly tap with a BFH if necessary.
Remove upper ball joint from knuckle by pressing upper control arm upwards, use BFH at your discretion. Pull knuckle out of lower control arm, may require the BFH again. Pull knuckle off of axle, being careful not to pull inner axle bearings out of the race.
Lay knuckle down on floor, studs facing outwards. Remove the 4 14mm bolts from the knuckle. Save these. Tap bearing/hub out of the knuckle. (If you have a 95-97 Accord, test fitment of new bearings in knuckle, if they don't fit, buy the above listed knuckles.) Assemble new bearing and hub together.
Place hub studs-down on cardboard, wood, or matting to protect the studs. Align new bearing over the hub, and press it on as far as you can by hand. Don't give yourself a hernia in the process. Place a piece of sturdy wood (i.e. 2x4) over the bearing. Whack repeatedly with BFH until hub and bearing are seated completely together. Get the knuckle and place it over the bearing, it should slide on fairly easily. Take the 4 14mm bolts and bolt the knuckle and bearing together.
Install the knuckle back on the car by reversing the steps to remove it. Be sure to tighten all nuts to spec and replace all cotter pins on castle nuts. Install new rotor on the hub by using 2 rotor screws. Take the new assembled caliper and slide it over the rotor. Be sure the banjo fitting aligns with the raised tabs on the caliper. (For Legend calipers, this means you have to use the caliper marked R on the left, and the one marked L on the right.) Mount the caliper on the knuckle using the 2 17mm bolts. Replace the 2 10mm bolts securing the brake line to the knuckle. Mount the banjo fitting using the 14mm banjo bolt.
Repeat for opposite side of the car.
Rear:
Raise the rear of the car on jackstands. Remove the rear wheels. Remove the 2 14mm bolts securing the brake caliper to the knuckle. Remove 14mm banjo bolt from brake line, drain fluid into container, then pull off the caliper and set it aside. Again, do not attempt to drink brake fluid. If you're thirsty, go get a beer!
Using impact wrench or breaker bar, remove the spindle nut from the spindle. Pull off the assembled hub and rotor. Place new hub over spindle. Replace spindle nut on spindle, being sure to torque to spec. There may be 2-3 threads of the nut still showing. This is normal, and is safe as long as you have the nut properly tightened. Place new rotor over hub, and affix using rotor screws. Place caliper back over rotor, and attach it to the knuckle with the 2 14mm bolts. Replace banjo fitting and 14mm banjo bolt.
Repeat for opposite side of the car.
Bleed your brakes using standard procudure, and enjoy.
5th Gen 5 Lug Swap and Accord V6 Brake Upgrade (With Optional Legend Dual-Piston Brake Upgrade)
By: Chris Peters
Parts needed:
94-95 Acura Legend GS Sedan Dual-Piston Front Calipers
-OR-
95+ Honda Accord V6/92+ Honda Prelude VTEC Front Calipers (1L, 1R)
23T Caliper Brackets** (2)
95-98 Honda Odyssey/95-97 Honda Accord V6 Front Knuckles* (1L, 1R)
95-98 Honda Odyssey Front Wheel Bearings (2)
95-98 Honda Odyssey Front Hubs (2)
98+ Acura ITR/97+ Honda Prelude Front Rotors(2)
97+ Honda Prelude Rear Hub/Bearing Assemblies (2)
98+ Acura ITR/98+ Honda Accord V6 Rear Rotors (2)
Rotor Screws (8)
20 lugnuts
4 5x114.3 Wheels with ~42? offset
Notes:
* If you have a 95-97 Accord, there is a chance that it already has the proper knuckles. I don't recommend buying the knuckles until you find out for certain that the new bearings do not bolt right into your original knuckle.
** You may have to order the 23T brackets seperately from the calipers. Legend calipers often come with 28T brackets, and Accord V6 calipers come with 25T brackets. Prelude VTEC calipers come with 23T brackets.
Front:
Raise the front of the car on jackstands. Remove the front wheels. Remove the 2 17mm bolts securing the brake caliper to the knuckle.
Remove 14mm banjo bolt from brake line, drain fluid into container, then pull off the caliper and set it aside. Do not attempt to drink brake fluid. Remove the 2 10mm bolts securing the brake line to the knuckle.
Using impact wrench or breaker bar, remove the spindle nut from the axle. Remove cotter pins from the lower ball joint, upper ball joint, and tie rod end castle nuts. Remove all three 17mm castle nuts. Pop tie rod end out of knuckle, lightly tap with a BFH if necessary.
Remove upper ball joint from knuckle by pressing upper control arm upwards, use BFH at your discretion. Pull knuckle out of lower control arm, may require the BFH again. Pull knuckle off of axle, being careful not to pull inner axle bearings out of the race.
Lay knuckle down on floor, studs facing outwards. Remove the 4 14mm bolts from the knuckle. Save these. Tap bearing/hub out of the knuckle. (If you have a 95-97 Accord, test fitment of new bearings in knuckle, if they don't fit, buy the above listed knuckles.) Assemble new bearing and hub together.
Place hub studs-down on cardboard, wood, or matting to protect the studs. Align new bearing over the hub, and press it on as far as you can by hand. Don't give yourself a hernia in the process. Place a piece of sturdy wood (i.e. 2x4) over the bearing. Whack repeatedly with BFH until hub and bearing are seated completely together. Get the knuckle and place it over the bearing, it should slide on fairly easily. Take the 4 14mm bolts and bolt the knuckle and bearing together.
Install the knuckle back on the car by reversing the steps to remove it. Be sure to tighten all nuts to spec and replace all cotter pins on castle nuts. Install new rotor on the hub by using 2 rotor screws. Take the new assembled caliper and slide it over the rotor. Be sure the banjo fitting aligns with the raised tabs on the caliper. (For Legend calipers, this means you have to use the caliper marked R on the left, and the one marked L on the right.) Mount the caliper on the knuckle using the 2 17mm bolts. Replace the 2 10mm bolts securing the brake line to the knuckle. Mount the banjo fitting using the 14mm banjo bolt.
Repeat for opposite side of the car.
Rear:
Raise the rear of the car on jackstands. Remove the rear wheels. Remove the 2 14mm bolts securing the brake caliper to the knuckle. Remove 14mm banjo bolt from brake line, drain fluid into container, then pull off the caliper and set it aside. Again, do not attempt to drink brake fluid. If you're thirsty, go get a beer!
Using impact wrench or breaker bar, remove the spindle nut from the spindle. Pull off the assembled hub and rotor. Place new hub over spindle. Replace spindle nut on spindle, being sure to torque to spec. There may be 2-3 threads of the nut still showing. This is normal, and is safe as long as you have the nut properly tightened. Place new rotor over hub, and affix using rotor screws. Place caliper back over rotor, and attach it to the knuckle with the 2 14mm bolts. Replace banjo fitting and 14mm banjo bolt.
Repeat for opposite side of the car.
Bleed your brakes using standard procudure, and enjoy.
02-21-2008, 05:29 AM
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I actually think they make 4 to 5 lug direct fit spacers with the 5 lugs already pressed in (so no hasstle)
but then again, for these types of applications you'd probably have to get some with thick spacers...like +20mm or greater...which may or may not work for you
just tossing that out there...
but then again, for these types of applications you'd probably have to get some with thick spacers...like +20mm or greater...which may or may not work for you
just tossing that out there...
02-21-2008, 11:28 AM
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I'm selling a 4 to 5 lug full conversion spacers with lug nuts, pm me if interested, or email me at blackackcl@gmail.com
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02-21-2008, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 97BlackAckCL
I'm selling a 4 to 5 lug full conversion spacers with lug nuts, pm me if interested, or email me at blackackcl@gmail.com
hey man, what's the thickness? I may be interested...
02-22-2008, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by fliplyricist1
hey man, what's the thickness? I may be interested...
02-22-2008, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 972xghost
why arent you using it?
10-05-2008, 04:09 PM
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I still have themfor sale, pm me
12-02-2009, 03:35 AM
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THIS IS NOT MY WRITE UP NOR AM I TAKING CREDIT FOR IT. THIS WAS WRITTEN BY "CHRIS" ON ACCORDINGLY DONE.
5th Gen 5 Lug Swap and Accord V6 Brake Upgrade (With Optional Legend Dual-Piston Brake Upgrade)
By: Chris Peters
Parts needed:
94-95 Acura Legend GS Sedan Dual-Piston Front Calipers
-OR-
95+ Honda Accord V6/92+ Honda Prelude VTEC Front Calipers (1L, 1R)
23T Caliper Brackets** (2)
95-98 Honda Odyssey/95-97 Honda Accord V6 Front Knuckles* (1L, 1R)
95-98 Honda Odyssey Front Wheel Bearings (2)
95-98 Honda Odyssey Front Hubs (2)
98+ Acura ITR/97+ Honda Prelude Front Rotors(2)
97+ Honda Prelude Rear Hub/Bearing Assemblies (2)
98+ Acura ITR/98+ Honda Accord V6 Rear Rotors (2)
Rotor Screws (8)
20 lugnuts
4 5x114.3 Wheels with ~42? offset
Notes:
* If you have a 95-97 Accord, there is a chance that it already has the proper knuckles. I don't recommend buying the knuckles until you find out for certain that the new bearings do not bolt right into your original knuckle.
** You may have to order the 23T brackets seperately from the calipers. Legend calipers often come with 28T brackets, and Accord V6 calipers come with 25T brackets. Prelude VTEC calipers come with 23T brackets.
Front:
Raise the front of the car on jackstands. Remove the front wheels. Remove the 2 17mm bolts securing the brake caliper to the knuckle.
Remove 14mm banjo bolt from brake line, drain fluid into container, then pull off the caliper and set it aside. Do not attempt to drink brake fluid. Remove the 2 10mm bolts securing the brake line to the knuckle.
Using impact wrench or breaker bar, remove the spindle nut from the axle. Remove cotter pins from the lower ball joint, upper ball joint, and tie rod end castle nuts. Remove all three 17mm castle nuts. Pop tie rod end out of knuckle, lightly tap with a BFH if necessary.
Remove upper ball joint from knuckle by pressing upper control arm upwards, use BFH at your discretion. Pull knuckle out of lower control arm, may require the BFH again. Pull knuckle off of axle, being careful not to pull inner axle bearings out of the race.
Lay knuckle down on floor, studs facing outwards. Remove the 4 14mm bolts from the knuckle. Save these. Tap bearing/hub out of the knuckle. (If you have a 95-97 Accord, test fitment of new bearings in knuckle, if they don't fit, buy the above listed knuckles.) Assemble new bearing and hub together.
Place hub studs-down on cardboard, wood, or matting to protect the studs. Align new bearing over the hub, and press it on as far as you can by hand. Don't give yourself a hernia in the process. Place a piece of sturdy wood (i.e. 2x4) over the bearing. Whack repeatedly with BFH until hub and bearing are seated completely together. Get the knuckle and place it over the bearing, it should slide on fairly easily. Take the 4 14mm bolts and bolt the knuckle and bearing together.
Install the knuckle back on the car by reversing the steps to remove it. Be sure to tighten all nuts to spec and replace all cotter pins on castle nuts. Install new rotor on the hub by using 2 rotor screws. Take the new assembled caliper and slide it over the rotor. Be sure the banjo fitting aligns with the raised tabs on the caliper. (For Legend calipers, this means you have to use the caliper marked R on the left, and the one marked L on the right.) Mount the caliper on the knuckle using the 2 17mm bolts. Replace the 2 10mm bolts securing the brake line to the knuckle. Mount the banjo fitting using the 14mm banjo bolt.
Repeat for opposite side of the car.
Rear:
Raise the rear of the car on jackstands. Remove the rear wheels. Remove the 2 14mm bolts securing the brake caliper to the knuckle. Remove 14mm banjo bolt from brake line, drain fluid into container, then pull off the caliper and set it aside. Again, do not attempt to drink brake fluid. If you're thirsty, go get a beer!
Using impact wrench or breaker bar, remove the spindle nut from the spindle. Pull off the assembled hub and rotor. Place new hub over spindle. Replace spindle nut on spindle, being sure to torque to spec. There may be 2-3 threads of the nut still showing. This is normal, and is safe as long as you have the nut properly tightened. Place new rotor over hub, and affix using rotor screws. Place caliper back over rotor, and attach it to the knuckle with the 2 14mm bolts. Replace banjo fitting and 14mm banjo bolt.
Repeat for opposite side of the car.
Bleed your brakes using standard procudure, and enjoy.
5th Gen 5 Lug Swap and Accord V6 Brake Upgrade (With Optional Legend Dual-Piston Brake Upgrade)
By: Chris Peters
Parts needed:
94-95 Acura Legend GS Sedan Dual-Piston Front Calipers
-OR-
95+ Honda Accord V6/92+ Honda Prelude VTEC Front Calipers (1L, 1R)
23T Caliper Brackets** (2)
95-98 Honda Odyssey/95-97 Honda Accord V6 Front Knuckles* (1L, 1R)
95-98 Honda Odyssey Front Wheel Bearings (2)
95-98 Honda Odyssey Front Hubs (2)
98+ Acura ITR/97+ Honda Prelude Front Rotors(2)
97+ Honda Prelude Rear Hub/Bearing Assemblies (2)
98+ Acura ITR/98+ Honda Accord V6 Rear Rotors (2)
Rotor Screws (8)
20 lugnuts
4 5x114.3 Wheels with ~42? offset
Notes:
* If you have a 95-97 Accord, there is a chance that it already has the proper knuckles. I don't recommend buying the knuckles until you find out for certain that the new bearings do not bolt right into your original knuckle.
** You may have to order the 23T brackets seperately from the calipers. Legend calipers often come with 28T brackets, and Accord V6 calipers come with 25T brackets. Prelude VTEC calipers come with 23T brackets.
Front:
Raise the front of the car on jackstands. Remove the front wheels. Remove the 2 17mm bolts securing the brake caliper to the knuckle.
Remove 14mm banjo bolt from brake line, drain fluid into container, then pull off the caliper and set it aside. Do not attempt to drink brake fluid. Remove the 2 10mm bolts securing the brake line to the knuckle.
Using impact wrench or breaker bar, remove the spindle nut from the axle. Remove cotter pins from the lower ball joint, upper ball joint, and tie rod end castle nuts. Remove all three 17mm castle nuts. Pop tie rod end out of knuckle, lightly tap with a BFH if necessary.
Remove upper ball joint from knuckle by pressing upper control arm upwards, use BFH at your discretion. Pull knuckle out of lower control arm, may require the BFH again. Pull knuckle off of axle, being careful not to pull inner axle bearings out of the race.
Lay knuckle down on floor, studs facing outwards. Remove the 4 14mm bolts from the knuckle. Save these. Tap bearing/hub out of the knuckle. (If you have a 95-97 Accord, test fitment of new bearings in knuckle, if they don't fit, buy the above listed knuckles.) Assemble new bearing and hub together.
Place hub studs-down on cardboard, wood, or matting to protect the studs. Align new bearing over the hub, and press it on as far as you can by hand. Don't give yourself a hernia in the process. Place a piece of sturdy wood (i.e. 2x4) over the bearing. Whack repeatedly with BFH until hub and bearing are seated completely together. Get the knuckle and place it over the bearing, it should slide on fairly easily. Take the 4 14mm bolts and bolt the knuckle and bearing together.
Install the knuckle back on the car by reversing the steps to remove it. Be sure to tighten all nuts to spec and replace all cotter pins on castle nuts. Install new rotor on the hub by using 2 rotor screws. Take the new assembled caliper and slide it over the rotor. Be sure the banjo fitting aligns with the raised tabs on the caliper. (For Legend calipers, this means you have to use the caliper marked R on the left, and the one marked L on the right.) Mount the caliper on the knuckle using the 2 17mm bolts. Replace the 2 10mm bolts securing the brake line to the knuckle. Mount the banjo fitting using the 14mm banjo bolt.
Repeat for opposite side of the car.
Rear:
Raise the rear of the car on jackstands. Remove the rear wheels. Remove the 2 14mm bolts securing the brake caliper to the knuckle. Remove 14mm banjo bolt from brake line, drain fluid into container, then pull off the caliper and set it aside. Again, do not attempt to drink brake fluid. If you're thirsty, go get a beer!
Using impact wrench or breaker bar, remove the spindle nut from the spindle. Pull off the assembled hub and rotor. Place new hub over spindle. Replace spindle nut on spindle, being sure to torque to spec. There may be 2-3 threads of the nut still showing. This is normal, and is safe as long as you have the nut properly tightened. Place new rotor over hub, and affix using rotor screws. Place caliper back over rotor, and attach it to the knuckle with the 2 14mm bolts. Replace banjo fitting and 14mm banjo bolt.
Repeat for opposite side of the car.
Bleed your brakes using standard procudure, and enjoy.
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