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Old 07-31-2006, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by honda3x23
so who else has a honda that makes more torque than hp

I couldn't find one...closest honda with hp and torque equalling is the Honda Ridgeline..247hp and 245lb of torque
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but we werent strickly talking about just honda
find one yet?



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Originally Posted by asianmoomoo
I couldn't find one...closest honda with hp and torque equalling is the Honda Ridgeline..247hp and 245lb of torque
search the k series engines also
K23A1-acura rdx-238hp/260tq
K24A1-honda crv-160hp/162tq
K24A4-honda accord and element-160hp/161tq
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Originally Posted by honda3x23
find one yet?



your right asianmoomoo
please look down
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still want more?
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Originally Posted by honda3x23
find one yet?



your right asianmoomoo

sorry i am wrong...the acura legend has more torque than hp...

200hp/ 210 torque
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our f22's with 145hp/147tq
f22a1-nonvtec-125hp/137tq
f22a4-130hp/142tq
f22a6-140hp/142tq
f23-the 2.3cl/accord-150hp/152tq
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the element is actually 156hp/ 160 torque...
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Originally Posted by asianmoomoo
the element is actually 156hp/ 160 torque...
opps my bad
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but for 2800 what do you expect, a mint one with 75k.no way buddy.still not bad...
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but for 2800 what do you expect, a mint one with 75k.no way buddy.still not bad...
2800, it didnt have leather, and the radiator had a hole in it, and the wheels had curb rash all over. i thought i got a good deal, which now that i think of it, i did get a good deal because the dealership still honored my warranty, i know they checked my vehicle history before doing the warranty
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2800, it didnt have leather, and the radiator had a hole in it, and the wheels had curb rash all over. i thought i got a good deal, which now that i think of it, i did get a good deal because the dealership still honored my warranty, i know they checked my vehicle history before doing the warranty

and they didnt say anything to you?

is it illegal to roll back the odometer?.....dude the dealership was either confused with the mileage, didn't check or was like "dude this guy got owned." lol
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Originally Posted by asianmoomoo
and they didnt say anything to you?

is it illegal to roll back the odometer?.....dude the dealership was either confused with the mileage, didn't check or was like "dude this guy got owned." lol
no, i went to the dealership 4x for warranty work. never said a word about it, and yes its illegal to roll back the odometer
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no......his engine doesnt put out more torque then other cars with same horsepower.
Yes it does. Take a look at the H22a which would most likely be the engine in that 14 second prelude you went on about. Give it some forced induction and get it to a nice 220 whp on the dyno. Now look at the torque curve and it'll almost certainly come in around 165- 205 ft lbs of torque.
Now Shiney's F22b on the other hand came in with 220 whp on the dyno and topped out at about 240 ft lbs of torque. Do you not think that 35 - 75 ft lbs of torque makes a difference when pulling a heavy car down the track?

Why do you insist on making arguments about shit you don't have the slightest knowledge of? Those stock hp and torque numbers of other f series engines you posted don't mean anything. Neither do the honda SUV numbers that you posted. Compare apples to apples and do a little research before posting the first thing that comes to your mind.
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come on guys, be nice. we are an acurazine first gen cl family. gotta keep it together. haha
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Originally Posted by Blenz
Yes it does. Take a look at the H22a which would most likely be the engine in that 14 second prelude you went on about. Give it some forced induction and get it to a nice 220 whp on the dyno. Now look at the torque curve and it'll almost certainly come in around 165- 205 ft lbs of torque.
Now Shiney's F22b on the other hand came in with 220 whp on the dyno and topped out at about 240 ft lbs of torque. Do you not think that 35 - 75 ft lbs of torque makes a difference when pulling a heavy car down the track?

Why do you insist on making arguments about shit you don't have the slightest knowledge of? Those stock hp and torque numbers of other f series engines you posted don't mean anything. Neither do the honda SUV numbers that you posted. Compare apples to apples and do a little research before posting the first thing that comes to your mind.
he wanted to know if theres any other honda engines putting out more tq than hp, well i posted it
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Originally Posted by Blenz
Yes it does. Take a look at the H22a which would most likely be the engine in that 14 second prelude you went on about. Give it some forced induction and get it to a nice 220 whp on the dyno. Now look at the torque curve and it'll almost certainly come in around 165- 205 ft lbs of torque.
Now Shiney's F22b on the other hand came in with 220 whp on the dyno and topped out at about 240 ft lbs of torque. Do you not think that 35 - 75 ft lbs of torque makes a difference when pulling a heavy car down the track?
yeah so you're comparing a prelude which is lighter but if having the same hp but not tq runs a 14, so that means a cl if just same hp and tq as the prelude would run slower because its heavier but with same horsepower theoreticly saying, and would need the extra tq to catch up time wise
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Originally Posted by AznX TL
yeah so you're comparing a prelude which is lighter but if having the same hp but not tq runs a 14, so that means a cl if just same hp and tq as the prelude would run slower because its heavier but with same horsepower theoreticly saying, and would need the extra tq to catch up time wise
Let's say you had two identical cars, from weight, to gear ratios, to power and torque. But both had different power bands. Simply by looking at the dyno, you would be able to to tell who would win. The one with the smoother torque band would pull harder all the way through. It's really hard to compare all these cars without throwing out all other factors. You guys are not mentioning all the other factors that come into play. So, if you were to calculate that the other factors did not have any affect simply because they were both the same, then lastly you can just do what I said. Look at the torque band, and the one wiht the smoother torque band would win. In theory, if your car is tuned well, they will smooth out the torque band. Making Shinney's car faster than the prelude with the same hp, tq, and weight. (because of the fact that a stock prelude from the dealership is not tuned to perfection with racing in mind.) And by smoother torque bands, it just simply means that what you want is for your torque on the dnyo graph to look like a straight line all the way through the rpms.
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Well put Cocoa! and with that; this thread should be killed!
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Well put Cocoa! and with that; this thread should be killed!
...........now back to the orginal subject
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wow, your a retard ( thread starter )


shiney,Clman and i belive ayougo are all in the 13s, so fucking belive it.

To my knowledge, Ayougo only has what...18X to the wheels and has full weight reduction but still pulls low 14s out of his ass off the bottle and easy 13s on. ( check out the accord forums or houston imports his slips. Clman on the bottle is well into the 13s and so is shiney now after the H22 tranny swap which takes .6 off right of the bat. His slips are on here as a matter fact. In fact, shiney might be the fastest.....not sure though


Bottom line is..................................your cl is slow, others are fast, and your a fucking retard. The F Block as great strength and alot of potential with the correct parts. Shiney is a perfect example. He's had 12x pill running that beast for quite some time. I dont belive ayougo or Clman have had any issues iether.

Also, dont fuck with me because i have a low post count, i know much more than you do about these cars. If you doubt that......put it to the test.
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Originally Posted by FULLRACE
wow, your a retard ( thread starter )


shiney,Clman and i belive ayougo are all in the 13s, so fucking belive it.

To my knowledge, Ayougo only has what...18X to the wheels and has full weight reduction but still pulls low 14s out of his ass off the bottle and easy 13s on. ( check out the accord forums or houston imports his slips. Clman on the bottle is well into the 13s and so is shiney now after the H22 tranny swap which takes .6 off right of the bat. His slips are on here as a matter fact. In fact, shiney might be the fastest.....not sure though


Bottom line is..................................your cl is slow, others are fast, and your a fucking retard. The F Block as great strength and alot of potential with the correct parts. Shiney is a perfect example. He's had 12x pill running that beast for quite some time. I dont belive ayougo or Clman have had any issues iether.

Also, dont fuck with me because i have a low post count, i know much more than you do about these cars. If you doubt that......put it to the test.
no fucking shit shirlock my cl is slow, why does everyone keep saying that? i never fucking said it was fast you fucking ass hat? nobody asked to fuck with you......want to come fuck with me? ill fuckin shoot your ass.
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Originally Posted by FULLRACE
wow, your a retard ( thread starter )


shiney,Clman and i belive ayougo are all in the 13s, so fucking belive it.

To my knowledge, Ayougo only has what...18X to the wheels and has full weight reduction but still pulls low 14s out of his ass off the bottle and easy 13s on. ( check out the accord forums or houston imports his slips. Clman on the bottle is well into the 13s and so is shiney now after the H22 tranny swap which takes .6 off right of the bat. His slips are on here as a matter fact. In fact, shiney might be the fastest.....not sure though


Bottom line is..................................your cl is slow, others are fast, and your a fucking retard. The F Block as great strength and alot of potential with thecorrect parts. Shiney is a perfect example. He's had 12x pill running that beast for quite some time. I dont belive ayougo or Clman have had any issues iether.

Also, dont fuck with me because i have a low post count, i know much more than you do about these cars. If you doubt that......put it to the test.
lol.. I dont doubt some of your knowledge but the time for this type of comment came and went a while ago.

The issues done. Shannon's got a quick car, Alex's weight-reduced CL will probably be even faster, and bobby's a mod or two away from being just as fast as both.

Try not to throw up comments like these anymore... we're not here to berate fellow members of the community, just share info.
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sorry, i let anger get the best of me
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no fucking shit shirlock my cl is slow, why does everyone keep saying that? i never fucking said it was fast you fucking ass hat? nobody asked to fuck with you......want to come fuck with me? ill fuckin shoot your ass.
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I won't know if i'm in the 13's until i run the 1/4 again
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Originally Posted by FULLRACE
wow, your a retard ( thread starter )


shiney,Clman and i belive ayougo are all in the 13s, so fucking belive it.

To my knowledge, Ayougo only has what...18X to the wheels and has full weight reduction but still pulls low 14s out of his ass off the bottle and easy 13s on. ( check out the accord forums or houston imports his slips. Clman on the bottle is well into the 13s and so is shiney now after the H22 tranny swap which takes .6 off right of the bat. His slips are on here as a matter fact. In fact, shiney might be the fastest.....not sure though


Bottom line is..................................your cl is slow, others are fast, and your a fucking retard. The F Block as great strength and alot of potential with the correct parts. Shiney is a perfect example. He's had 12x pill running that beast for quite some time. I dont belive ayougo or Clman have had any issues iether.

Also, dont fuck with me because i have a low post count, i know much more than you do about these cars. If you doubt that......put it to the test.
Welcome back alex, we missed u
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Welcome back alex, we missed u
if it is you, miss you bro
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If it's Ayougo, please pm me your number. I'm moving back to Dallas by September. Been wanting to see your ride in person and thought we could track the cars together.
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sorry but i dont have a "gat" but i do have a .45 glock 30
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is it legal to own handguns in canada? i heard that you're not allowed to own them, that sucks........too bad im not old enough to apply for a CCW
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rofl i knew it, if its alex... sup negro
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alex club if anyone wants to talk to him pm him on accordinglydone.com hes always on there
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Welcome back alex, we missed u
how do you know its ayougo?
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AZXTL or whatever it is.....i must apologise for the comments...no reason for that.


And whats with everyone calling me ayougo ? My cl is slowmatic and black, im pretty sure you cant get the two cars confused. Was that his cars name or ....is there something im missing ?
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Originally Posted by FULLRACE
AZXTL or whatever it is.....i must apologise for the comments...no reason for that.


And whats with everyone calling me ayougo ? My cl is slowmatic and black, im pretty sure you cant get the two cars confused. Was that his cars name or ....is there something im missing ?
nevermind. we were going on a hunch. we were wrong..

Anyways, glad you made up. :gheyhug:
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