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Old Jul 30, 2006 | 09:31 PM
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Wtf!!!

i found out that when i bought my car, the odometer was rolled back 100,000 mi......*crys in the corner* NO!!!!!!!!
decision is sell the car to someone eles, or when it totally takes a shit on me i take the hit and put in a new engine
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Old Jul 30, 2006 | 09:34 PM
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that sucks
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Old Jul 30, 2006 | 09:36 PM
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it wasnt rolled back to 100,000. it was at 191,xxx and it got rolled back to 90,000 and i have it now at 119,000.......and i also found out im the 5th owner............
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Old Jul 30, 2006 | 09:37 PM
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thats karma for you
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Old Jul 30, 2006 | 09:39 PM
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thats karma for you
man you really said what i wanted to say hahah

how much did u pay for ur car?(this is gonna be good)
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Old Jul 30, 2006 | 09:41 PM
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2800
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Old Jul 30, 2006 | 09:41 PM
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meh i pass the karma to someone eles while i go buy a new wrx
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Old Jul 30, 2006 | 09:48 PM
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have fun. just dont be like most of the tools that buy those and think they are the shit and deserve awards for theyre cars
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Old Jul 30, 2006 | 09:48 PM
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you only paid $2800? I don't see the big deal.
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Old Jul 30, 2006 | 09:52 PM
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hes just surpries because he got fucked
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Old Jul 30, 2006 | 09:54 PM
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you only paid $2800? I don't see the big deal.

i was referring to him flaming someone in a different thread.
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Old Jul 30, 2006 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by dragon084
i was referring to him flaming someone in a different thread.
:blindfold i dont look at it from a acura cl owners point of view, i look at it in an auto enthusiast point of view, and since no one from acurazine will back me up, i have srtforums,evolutionm, and i bet if shiney made a thread in honda-tech about him having full interior, running his nitrous kit and having the h22 tranny, they'll have the same reaction as i did
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Old Jul 30, 2006 | 10:08 PM
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just stop already
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Old Jul 30, 2006 | 10:11 PM
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how did you find out?
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Old Jul 30, 2006 | 10:13 PM
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he was drivin along and the cardboard guage cluster popped off. he had wondered why nothing ever moved but no he knows
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Old Jul 30, 2006 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by spencer_homer
he was drivin along and the cardboard guage cluster popped off. he had wondered why nothing ever moved but no he knows
idk what you're talking about, i got free work done on my car im only missing the cupholder because i broke it and threw it away, and the trunk carpet.
i found out from carfax, https://acurazine.com/forums/car-talk-5/free-carfax-until-mid-august-344165/
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Old Jul 30, 2006 | 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by spencer_homer
he was drivin along and the cardboard guage cluster popped off. he had wondered why nothing ever moved but no he knows

That sucks that you got screwed but you should have known to do the carfax before buying the car, not after.
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Old Jul 30, 2006 | 11:33 PM
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works well here.

sorry to hear that yo.

2800 is still a hell of a deal for a first car... especially if it looks clean for having 191xxx miles on it...
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Old Jul 30, 2006 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by AznX TL
:blindfold i dont look at it from a acura cl owners point of view, i look at it in an auto enthusiast point of view, and since no one from acurazine will back me up, i have srtforums,evolutionm, and i bet if shiney made a thread in honda-tech about him having full interior, running his nitrous kit and having the h22 tranny, they'll have the same reaction as i did
LoL. I personally know the moderators from SRT-4 form when they use to own them, I know quite a few track guys from the Evo forums, and well, as for Hondatech, who gives a shit. If you talk to anyone that knows a thing or two about building cars, shinney's story is very believable. I just think you truely dont know shit about cars in general except for what you read in magazines. I truely dont believe you have any experience with modded cars at all.

Tell me this, would you believe that a d15 engine with a stock bottom end can run 10's? And just to let you know in advance, it's been done... Rage motorsports are the ones that hold that record in their crx. Jason is the owner of the shop btw...

And honestly, no one would give a fuck if you posted the thread in those boards. They go to their boards to read about their cars, not ours.
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Old Jul 31, 2006 | 12:53 AM
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LoL. I personally know the moderators from SRT-4 form when they use to own them, I know quite a few track guys from the Evo forums, and well, as for Hondatech, who gives a shit. If you talk to anyone that knows a thing or two about building cars, shinney's story is very believable. I just think you truely dont know shit about cars in general except for what you read in magazines. I truely dont believe you have any experience with modded cars at all.

Tell me this, would you believe that a d15 engine with a stock bottom end can run 10's? And just to let you know in advance, it's been done... Rage motorsports are the ones that hold that record in their crx. Jason is the owner of the shop btw...

And honestly, no one would give a fuck if you posted the thread in those boards. They go to their boards to read about their cars, not ours.
nicely put out!
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Old Jul 31, 2006 | 09:51 AM
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LoL. I personally know the moderators from SRT-4 form when they use to own them, I know quite a few track guys from the Evo forums, and well, as for Hondatech, who gives a shit. If you talk to anyone that knows a thing or two about building cars, shinney's story is very believable. I just think you truely dont know shit about cars in general except for what you read in magazines. I truely dont believe you have any experience with modded cars at all.

Tell me this, would you believe that a d15 engine with a stock bottom end can run 10's? And just to let you know in advance, it's been done... Rage motorsports are the ones that hold that record in their crx. Jason is the owner of the shop btw...

And honestly, no one would give a fuck if you posted the thread in those boards. They go to their boards to read about their cars, not ours.
if you know about weight and hp, 220hp on a 4cyl on a 3000lb isnt going to break 13's
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Old Jul 31, 2006 | 09:59 AM
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how the hell does that make sense, theres tons of car pushing more hp,less weight and they're barely breaking 14's
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Old Jul 31, 2006 | 10:03 AM
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and dont give me this unexperienced bullshit, i wanna hear an explanation
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Old Jul 31, 2006 | 10:07 AM
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Have you calculated gear ratios in your equation? And it's 220 to the wheels. Making it roughly 260-270 to the crank. Roughly the same as an Evo's crank hp and roughly the same weight. They pull 13's easily. Now, I'm not comparing the CL to an Evo saying it's the same shit, but look at the power to weight ratio of both cars (shinney's in this case, not a stock CL). Pretty similar. Nevertheless, anything is possible, something you cant seem to understand. His last set up ran him a 14.09 I'm more than sure he can run a 13.9 with his new set up, with the right outside temp, with the right tire pressure, with the right 0-60ft time, with the right tunning, with the right stuff out of his car. We're talking about a difference of less than 1/10 of a second for him to break into the 13's. It can be done...
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Old Jul 31, 2006 | 10:09 AM
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evo's have awd to their advantage, thats why i didnt use that example
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Old Jul 31, 2006 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by AznX TL
how the hell does that make sense, theres tons of car pushing more hp,less weight and they're barely breaking 14's
Which ones? Modded or stock? Maybe their tune like shit. I'd like to see their torque curves on those cars. You're still talking about crank power arent you? Where do they put all that power? What kind of drivetrain? What elevation? Experienced driver or rookie? What cars are you talking about?
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Old Jul 31, 2006 | 10:12 AM
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the closest thing i can think of to shiney's car is the mazdaspeed mazda6 and srt4's
but 220whp is about 165 to the crank, but he doesnt have much power mods to support the n2o, just his lightweight tranny, and h/i/e
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Old Jul 31, 2006 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by AznX TL
evo's have awd to their advantage, thats why i didnt use that example
Yea, they also have a higher drivetrain loss because of it. But, I used them as an example simply because of the power to weight ratio being rather easy to explain. Not accurate, but roughly the same.
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Old Jul 31, 2006 | 10:14 AM
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Which ones? Modded or stock? Maybe their tune like shit. I'd like to see their torque curves on those cars. You're still talking about crank power arent you? Where do they put all that power? What kind of drivetrain? What elevation? Experienced driver or rookie? What cars are you talking about?
for example, i saw a civic with an f22 turbo swap, running a 14.7, now the civic is much lighter than our cl especially since shiney has the premium package
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Old Jul 31, 2006 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by AznX TL
the closest thing i can think of to shiney's car is the mazdaspeed mazda6 and srt4's
but 220whp is about 165 to the crank, but he doesnt have much power mods to support the n2o, just his lightweight tranny, and h/i/e
Did you mean to say 265 crank? You're doing it backwards I believe, unless it was simply a typo. 265 crank hp would be roughly 220whp with a drivetrain loss of roughly 16%. Just a rough estimate, most likely a bit higher but again, just a rough estimate for easy numbers.

Anyways, he has more than that. By far, way more. And tuning is everything. I believe his car is tuned as well.
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Old Jul 31, 2006 | 10:17 AM
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yeah i ment 265, lol
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Old Jul 31, 2006 | 10:17 AM
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LoL. I personally know the moderators from SRT-4 form when they use to own them, I know quite a few track guys from the Evo forums, and well, as for Hondatech, who gives a shit. If you talk to anyone that knows a thing or two about building cars, shinney's story is very believable. I just think you truely dont know shit about cars in general except for what you read in magazines. I truely dont believe you have any experience with modded cars at all.

Tell me this, would you believe that a d15 engine with a stock bottom end can run 10's? And just to let you know in advance, it's been done... Rage motorsports are the ones that hold that record in their crx. Jason is the owner of the shop btw...

And honestly, no one would give a fuck if you posted the thread in those boards. They go to their boards to read about their cars, not ours.
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Old Jul 31, 2006 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by AznX TL
for example, i saw a civic with an f22 turbo swap, running a 14.7, now the civic is much lighter than our cl especially since shiney has the premium package
I'd like to see his dyno. He's shit was probably tuned like shit. And which f series engine? Why would they go from a d series to a f series. Seems a little odd. Plus, I'd need way more info to see as to why he may have run those numbers on the track. It isn't always just power/weight ratio all the time. A lot of other factors come into play when dealing with drag.
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Old Jul 31, 2006 | 10:19 AM
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a civic running 10's isnt unheard of, especially if gutted, with slicks
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Old Jul 31, 2006 | 10:25 AM
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Old Jul 31, 2006 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by AznX TL
a civic running 10's isnt unheard of, especially if gutted, with slicks
A civic with a d15 engine, with a stock bottom end is.
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Old Jul 31, 2006 | 10:32 AM
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god your a tool!!!!!!!!! do you not know anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



look at his trap speed, 97, then go on google and type in quarter mile calculator and use that mph to figure out the best possible quarter mile time.....


the reason i went from a 14.8 @ 98 to a 14.0 @ 98 is because of slicks!!!!!!!!! thats why my cars faster slicks slicks slicks slicks slicks okay dumby? slikcs


who doensnt do a carfax before you buy a car, you deserve it moron
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Old Jul 31, 2006 | 10:36 AM
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god your a tool!!!!!!!!! do you not know anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



look at his trap speed, 97, then go on google and type in quarter mile calculator and use that mph to figure out the best possible quarter mile time.....


the reason i went from a 14.8 @ 98 to a 14.0 @ 98 is because of slicks!!!!!!!!! thats why my cars faster slicks slicks slicks slicks slicks okay dumby? slikcs


who doensnt do a carfax before you buy a car, you deserve it moron
look at the trap speed for the guy about 96mph, and he ran a better time, so why would the quartermile calculator be acurrate?
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Old Jul 31, 2006 | 10:38 AM
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Again, there are a lot of factors that come into play when dealing with drag. Power to weight ratio is more of a platform.

Like shinney said, looking at the trap speeds does help in determining what the car is capable of if traction was an issue. I have a friend that run's low to mid 13's in his EK, trapping at 120mph. We all know that's a 12sec car easily with traction.
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Old Jul 31, 2006 | 10:40 AM
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so did you race this srt4 with slicks on?
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