I'm going to be installed F&R sways and getting the suspension tuned altogether (corner balancing etc).. i was just considering this cause the lower, the nicer it looks, but i dont want to sacrifice performance. if it helps, then great! if not.. ill leave it. if its insignificant, imma be dropping it

 

damn your full of questions

 

however, the answer is obvious. yes it will help and handle better, just make sure you get a camber kit if your going any lower than that.

 

i had a question on turning, and now suspension..

sorry if 2 questions is too much.. ill make one post next time

 

The lower your center of gravity the better the handling...less body roll, squat, and all that good stuff.

 

its cool man, its all love on the cl-zine

 

:gheyhug:

 

Generally the lower the better, but if you get too low it'll rub and bottom out on occasion. One of those delicate balance things you just have to play with until its right.

 

no such thing


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coilover suspension with pillow ball upper mounts own

 

You've obviously never driven on many roads in my area. Damn intersections have 6-8" dips that you have to go over at like 20 mph. Seen more cars catch air and bottom out because they didn't know about the dip (no signs).

Although "visually" you are correct you can never be too low.

 

i agree.. hence the d2's

 

oh wise ones.. fill me in! WTF is that?

 

You guys are dumbasses. Lower doesn't always equate to better handling. Going past 1.5" is pushing it. If it was designed to be low, then yes it's better to be low, but for regular cars (non sports cars) going too low will hurt the handling. There's nothing worse than having no suspension travel going around turns that aren't smooth as glass.

 

^ wouldn't there still be some suspension travel even if its 0 finger gap? i have room within the wheel well..

 

yes but there is still not enough travel. a suspension is finely tuned and evrything has to be coordinated together with out this u have an ill handeling car.

 

There may be room in the wheel well, but that doesn't mean there will be room for the struts to compress. Especially if you hit a bump. You'll be bouncing off your bump stops which has a really high spring rate and your struts aren't going to handle that well.

That said, I'm gonna drop my car to tuck in the back and have 0 gap in front cause I'm tired of it looking so high! It doesn't look bad now, but it would look so much better slammed. Winter is coming and I'm hesitant, but I think I'll still do it. I just don't like the harsher ride that comes with it.

 

do it! lol imma bad influence... im running negative fingers! and love it but for people who never driven a really low car you WILL rub especally on ramps!

 

motohip: after dropping F/R to 0 finger gaps, i was thinking of installing F/R sways as well as taking it to a place in gardena for professional suspension tuning.

is that what you were talking about?

 

What do you mean by suspension tuning? By tuning, do you mean adjusting the alignment? I don't see any benefit to "tuning" (corner balancing and stuff) unless you go autocrossing or something.

Just drop it, get your sway bars, get an alignment...if they can get it up on the rack! and you're set. You will need a camber kit if you don't already have one.

 

^ alright thank you

 

I think I'm keeping this CL stock for a while. I'd like to lower it, but hate the harsh ride after it. Plus lower is usually worse for about everything excepting cornering performance and looks.

I know first hand. I also have a lowered civic hatchback... Going 100mph on a 70 zone...a small dip in the road, CLUNK you hear the road hit your exhaust system. Not to mention un even thread wear and ofcourse who could forget the bumpy ride. heh

 

slam your car.. better handling = slamming of car

 

It's weird...I lowered my car more and the ride is BETTER! Bumps don't affect the car much now and I feel more glued to the road. Feels more solid than before.

Oh and I lowered it as much as possible but it only goes to 1.5 finger gap in the back...it won't tuck . The front will tuck, but I don't wanna look stupid, so it's pretty much 1.5 fingers in back and 2 fingers in front.

Edit: It's only the right rear that won't drop that low. It's on the lowest setting, but the left rear is like halfway. The left rear will tuck, but there's no point if the right rear won't.

 

what you dont know is that on our D2's we never fool with the spring and strut, we only adjust the shaft length.

the picture shows what area adjusts, therefore we can go as low as we want without sacrificing ride quality, we can also adjust the spring tention like normal coilovers to make it stiffer...etc this is why i love my d2's

 

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true coilovers dont EVER mess with the area of the springs

 

Lowering the center of gravity will effectively help handling.

Having said that, a camber kit (as good as it is, especially for tire wear), will hinder handling a bit.

 

a car's suspension is composed of more than springs and shocks...which you guys seem to be so worried about...yes they are still important, but are only two components of your suspension

upper and lower control arm positioning, tie rod positioning, and caster will all effect your toe and camber curve upon compression which determines overall grip

slamming a car = pointless and imo stupid as hell...keep the lower control arms and tie rods as horizontal as possible...the upper control arm unfortunately can't achieve this position

 

^ i plan on getting my car's suspension tuned after dropping my car a bit.. corner balancing and stuff like that. would it help?

 

ya.....ok

 

one phrase: seat time with an instructor

i gaurantee you won't be any faster even if your car was corner balanced and had a 60/40 front to rear weight ratio

 

^ but would it help at all? i got a buddy who drives an NSX and he has a friend named jon that always dials in his suspension... so yeah =/