What year is the best 1st generation?
11-06-2003, 07:10 PM
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Probably more info than you need, but this is cut and pasted from a thread posted several weeks ago:
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Some of this may have been mentioned above, but I'm too lazy to read it!
1997 CLs are a "bastard year". However, it doesn't make them any less reliable. The 1997 CLs interior has some subtle differences than the 1998/99 models. The horn button location is different, there are no audio controls on the '97, and the console is different (mainly button location differences and shifter plate design). The '97 doesn't have the "home link" control (basically garage door opener and home lighting remote) up near the mirror/interior lights. The interior colors for '97 were charcoal and quartz. For the 1998-99 models it was parchment and charcoal.
When the 1998/99 models came out, Acura used the newly design 1998 Accord as the base for the interior. This is why the 1997 has some differences.
On the exterior, the 1997 model does not have it's front and rear lips plus side skirts painted. On the 1998/99 models, these are all painted body color. Also the wheel designs are different (not only between the 4 cylinder and 6 cylinder models) but for each year.
The 1997 4 cylinder model is a 2.2CL, and the 1998/99 is a 2.3CL. You can get either a 4-speed auto or a 5-speed stick. The 3.0 only came with a 4-speed auto for all years.
The suspension for all models is based on the 1994-97 Accord. However, there is a major difference in the 1997 brakes compared to the 1998-99 models. The 1997 CLs use a "hub over rotor design". The 1998-99 models use a rotor over hub design introduced with the "new" 1998 Accord. The 1997 front brakes are a BITCH to change or are more expensive to have replaced as compared to the 1998-99 models. The 3.0 front brakes are larger than the 2.2/2.3 of all years. The rear brakes on all year CL models are the same.
The grille on the '97 model is different than the 1998-99 models. Personally I think it looks better!
Exterior colors are different depending on the year, with some colors available on all three years. The color of my '97 CL is called Cypress Green Pearl and is a '97 only color. I think you'll find this with other colors.
All 1999 models were considered "Premium" models w/leather. But there are differences between the 2.3 and 3.0 models. Mainly, the 3.0 added extras that the 2.3 didn't. With the 3.0 you got 8-way heated drivers seat and a non-powered (but heated) passenger seat, 6-speaker Bose sound system, and a Driver's Seat Map Pocket!
1997 and 1998 had "standard" models as well as "Premium" models. "Standard" models came with cloth interior and "Premium" models came with leather interior. You got heated power mirrors with all 3.0s, but not with the 2.2/2.3.
Here's a link of the various '97 differences: http://autopedia.com/Acura/97_CL.html
My personal feedback: The tranny on my '97 3.0 has 110K miles on it and runs great. This also includes running nitrous for the 25K miles or so (18 months)! I've read about a number of trannys that have failed, but they are not the majority.
I have no frome of reference for the ride quality. I've had my CL dropped since about 65K miles, and have been running on aftermarket springs, struts, and wheels/tires.
I love my CL!
EDIT: The 1997 3.0 engine is designated J30A1 with a separate Engine Control Module (ECM) and a Transmission Control Module (TCM). The 1998-99 3.0 (the same as the 1998 Accord V6) is designated J30A2 with a combined Engine and Transmission Module called the Powertrain Control Module (PCM).
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Some of this may have been mentioned above, but I'm too lazy to read it!
1997 CLs are a "bastard year". However, it doesn't make them any less reliable. The 1997 CLs interior has some subtle differences than the 1998/99 models. The horn button location is different, there are no audio controls on the '97, and the console is different (mainly button location differences and shifter plate design). The '97 doesn't have the "home link" control (basically garage door opener and home lighting remote) up near the mirror/interior lights. The interior colors for '97 were charcoal and quartz. For the 1998-99 models it was parchment and charcoal.
When the 1998/99 models came out, Acura used the newly design 1998 Accord as the base for the interior. This is why the 1997 has some differences.
On the exterior, the 1997 model does not have it's front and rear lips plus side skirts painted. On the 1998/99 models, these are all painted body color. Also the wheel designs are different (not only between the 4 cylinder and 6 cylinder models) but for each year.
The 1997 4 cylinder model is a 2.2CL, and the 1998/99 is a 2.3CL. You can get either a 4-speed auto or a 5-speed stick. The 3.0 only came with a 4-speed auto for all years.
The suspension for all models is based on the 1994-97 Accord. However, there is a major difference in the 1997 brakes compared to the 1998-99 models. The 1997 CLs use a "hub over rotor design". The 1998-99 models use a rotor over hub design introduced with the "new" 1998 Accord. The 1997 front brakes are a BITCH to change or are more expensive to have replaced as compared to the 1998-99 models. The 3.0 front brakes are larger than the 2.2/2.3 of all years. The rear brakes on all year CL models are the same.
The grille on the '97 model is different than the 1998-99 models. Personally I think it looks better!
Exterior colors are different depending on the year, with some colors available on all three years. The color of my '97 CL is called Cypress Green Pearl and is a '97 only color. I think you'll find this with other colors.
All 1999 models were considered "Premium" models w/leather. But there are differences between the 2.3 and 3.0 models. Mainly, the 3.0 added extras that the 2.3 didn't. With the 3.0 you got 8-way heated drivers seat and a non-powered (but heated) passenger seat, 6-speaker Bose sound system, and a Driver's Seat Map Pocket!
1997 and 1998 had "standard" models as well as "Premium" models. "Standard" models came with cloth interior and "Premium" models came with leather interior. You got heated power mirrors with all 3.0s, but not with the 2.2/2.3.
Here's a link of the various '97 differences: http://autopedia.com/Acura/97_CL.html
My personal feedback: The tranny on my '97 3.0 has 110K miles on it and runs great. This also includes running nitrous for the 25K miles or so (18 months)! I've read about a number of trannys that have failed, but they are not the majority.
I have no frome of reference for the ride quality. I've had my CL dropped since about 65K miles, and have been running on aftermarket springs, struts, and wheels/tires.
I love my CL!
EDIT: The 1997 3.0 engine is designated J30A1 with a separate Engine Control Module (ECM) and a Transmission Control Module (TCM). The 1998-99 3.0 (the same as the 1998 Accord V6) is designated J30A2 with a combined Engine and Transmission Module called the Powertrain Control Module (PCM).
11-06-2003, 07:46 PM
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'99 fo sho.
11-06-2003, 08:23 PM
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Originally posted by dustbuster4
Probably more info than you need, but this is cut and pasted from a thread posted several weeks ago:
________________
Some of this may have been mentioned above, but I'm too lazy to read it!
1997 CLs are a "bastard year". However, it doesn't make them any less reliable. The 1997 CLs interior has some subtle differences than the 1998/99 models. The horn button location is different, there are no audio controls on the '97, and the console is different (mainly button location differences and shifter plate design). The '97 doesn't have the "home link" control (basically garage door opener and home lighting remote) up near the mirror/interior lights. The interior colors for '97 were charcoal and quartz. For the 1998-99 models it was parchment and charcoal.
When the 1998/99 models came out, Acura used the newly design 1998 Accord as the base for the interior. This is why the 1997 has some differences.
On the exterior, the 1997 model does not have it's front and rear lips plus side skirts painted. On the 1998/99 models, these are all painted body color. Also the wheel designs are different (not only between the 4 cylinder and 6 cylinder models) but for each year.
The 1997 4 cylinder model is a 2.2CL, and the 1998/99 is a 2.3CL. You can get either a 4-speed auto or a 5-speed stick. The 3.0 only came with a 4-speed auto for all years.
The suspension for all models is based on the 1994-97 Accord. However, there is a major difference in the 1997 brakes compared to the 1998-99 models. The 1997 CLs use a "hub over rotor design". The 1998-99 models use a rotor over hub design introduced with the "new" 1998 Accord. The 1997 front brakes are a BITCH to change or are more expensive to have replaced as compared to the 1998-99 models. The 3.0 front brakes are larger than the 2.2/2.3 of all years. The rear brakes on all year CL models are the same.
The grille on the '97 model is different than the 1998-99 models. Personally I think it looks better!
Exterior colors are different depending on the year, with some colors available on all three years. The color of my '97 CL is called Cypress Green Pearl and is a '97 only color. I think you'll find this with other colors.
All 1999 models were considered "Premium" models w/leather. But there are differences between the 2.3 and 3.0 models. Mainly, the 3.0 added extras that the 2.3 didn't. With the 3.0 you got 8-way heated drivers seat and a non-powered (but heated) passenger seat, 6-speaker Bose sound system, and a Driver's Seat Map Pocket!
1997 and 1998 had "standard" models as well as "Premium" models. "Standard" models came with cloth interior and "Premium" models came with leather interior. You got heated power mirrors with all 3.0s, but not with the 2.2/2.3.
Here's a link of the various '97 differences: http://autopedia.com/Acura/97_CL.html
My personal feedback: The tranny on my '97 3.0 has 110K miles on it and runs great. This also includes running nitrous for the 25K miles or so (18 months)! I've read about a number of trannys that have failed, but they are not the majority.
I have no frome of reference for the ride quality. I've had my CL dropped since about 65K miles, and have been running on aftermarket springs, struts, and wheels/tires.
I love my CL!
EDIT: The 1997 3.0 engine is designated J30A1 with a separate Engine Control Module (ECM) and a Transmission Control Module (TCM). The 1998-99 3.0 (the same as the 1998 Accord V6) is designated J30A2 with a combined Engine and Transmission Module called the Powertrain Control Module (PCM).
Probably more info than you need, but this is cut and pasted from a thread posted several weeks ago:
________________
Some of this may have been mentioned above, but I'm too lazy to read it!
1997 CLs are a "bastard year". However, it doesn't make them any less reliable. The 1997 CLs interior has some subtle differences than the 1998/99 models. The horn button location is different, there are no audio controls on the '97, and the console is different (mainly button location differences and shifter plate design). The '97 doesn't have the "home link" control (basically garage door opener and home lighting remote) up near the mirror/interior lights. The interior colors for '97 were charcoal and quartz. For the 1998-99 models it was parchment and charcoal.
When the 1998/99 models came out, Acura used the newly design 1998 Accord as the base for the interior. This is why the 1997 has some differences.
On the exterior, the 1997 model does not have it's front and rear lips plus side skirts painted. On the 1998/99 models, these are all painted body color. Also the wheel designs are different (not only between the 4 cylinder and 6 cylinder models) but for each year.
The 1997 4 cylinder model is a 2.2CL, and the 1998/99 is a 2.3CL. You can get either a 4-speed auto or a 5-speed stick. The 3.0 only came with a 4-speed auto for all years.
The suspension for all models is based on the 1994-97 Accord. However, there is a major difference in the 1997 brakes compared to the 1998-99 models. The 1997 CLs use a "hub over rotor design". The 1998-99 models use a rotor over hub design introduced with the "new" 1998 Accord. The 1997 front brakes are a BITCH to change or are more expensive to have replaced as compared to the 1998-99 models. The 3.0 front brakes are larger than the 2.2/2.3 of all years. The rear brakes on all year CL models are the same.
The grille on the '97 model is different than the 1998-99 models. Personally I think it looks better!
Exterior colors are different depending on the year, with some colors available on all three years. The color of my '97 CL is called Cypress Green Pearl and is a '97 only color. I think you'll find this with other colors.
All 1999 models were considered "Premium" models w/leather. But there are differences between the 2.3 and 3.0 models. Mainly, the 3.0 added extras that the 2.3 didn't. With the 3.0 you got 8-way heated drivers seat and a non-powered (but heated) passenger seat, 6-speaker Bose sound system, and a Driver's Seat Map Pocket!
1997 and 1998 had "standard" models as well as "Premium" models. "Standard" models came with cloth interior and "Premium" models came with leather interior. You got heated power mirrors with all 3.0s, but not with the 2.2/2.3.
Here's a link of the various '97 differences: http://autopedia.com/Acura/97_CL.html
My personal feedback: The tranny on my '97 3.0 has 110K miles on it and runs great. This also includes running nitrous for the 25K miles or so (18 months)! I've read about a number of trannys that have failed, but they are not the majority.
I have no frome of reference for the ride quality. I've had my CL dropped since about 65K miles, and have been running on aftermarket springs, struts, and wheels/tires.
I love my CL!
EDIT: The 1997 3.0 engine is designated J30A1 with a separate Engine Control Module (ECM) and a Transmission Control Module (TCM). The 1998-99 3.0 (the same as the 1998 Accord V6) is designated J30A2 with a combined Engine and Transmission Module called the Powertrain Control Module (PCM).
i agree with your Rick on this one the 97 has subtle differences than other year than the 97. they changed it in 98 and 99, i love my CL the car maybe have its problems but its my car and i love it
there aint no other like it, literally
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11-07-2003, 04:56 AM
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Originally posted by sarlacc23
'99 fo sho.
'99 fo sho.
11-07-2003, 07:14 AM
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Originally posted by CybrStudd
99 rims are the best i've seen. Check out my WWW for pics of my stock 99 rims. (the pics are from before I changed out my rotors).
99 rims are the best i've seen. Check out my WWW for pics of my stock 99 rims. (the pics are from before I changed out my rotors).
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If you're asking about my gauges, they're the AC Autotechnic S7 Dimensional gauges. They cost more than normal reverse indiglo's, but I like the looks of them better. I think they cost me $80 off of ebay.
As for rims, I'm keeping my stock ones for now, cause I'm working on performance mods for now, then I'm going for looks. I know I've already done some mods for appearance, but nothing too expensive like rims.
As for rims, I'm keeping my stock ones for now, cause I'm working on performance mods for now, then I'm going for looks. I know I've already done some mods for appearance, but nothing too expensive like rims.
11-07-2003, 09:54 AM
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Originally posted by CybrStudd
If you're asking about my gauges, they're the AC Autotechnic S7 Dimensional gauges. They cost more than normal reverse indiglo's, but I like the looks of them better. I think they cost me $80 off of ebay.
As for rims, I'm keeping my stock ones for now, cause I'm working on performance mods for now, then I'm going for looks. I know I've already done some mods for appearance, but nothing too expensive like rims.
If you're asking about my gauges, they're the AC Autotechnic S7 Dimensional gauges. They cost more than normal reverse indiglo's, but I like the looks of them better. I think they cost me $80 off of ebay.
As for rims, I'm keeping my stock ones for now, cause I'm working on performance mods for now, then I'm going for looks. I know I've already done some mods for appearance, but nothing too expensive like rims.
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I got the 97 Accord gauges I believe, and they weren't too bad to install. You have to notch out the screw holes a little bit on all gauges except the speedometer. The speedometer fit perfectly. Just line it up and see how far and in what direction you need to notch it out. I updated and added some pics on the page now, hopefully the night time pic is sharper now.
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Originally posted by CybrStudd
I got the 97 Accord gauges I believe, and they weren't too bad to install. You have to notch out the screw holes a little bit on all gauges except the speedometer. The speedometer fit perfectly. Just line it up and see how far and in what direction you need to notch it out. I updated and added some pics on the page now, hopefully the night time pic is sharper now.
I got the 97 Accord gauges I believe, and they weren't too bad to install. You have to notch out the screw holes a little bit on all gauges except the speedometer. The speedometer fit perfectly. Just line it up and see how far and in what direction you need to notch it out. I updated and added some pics on the page now, hopefully the night time pic is sharper now.
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I removed all the stock bulbs, because that's what everyone was saying to do. But I'm planning on putting back the small bulb that was in the back, because I think it's the one for lighting the odometers up.
11-09-2003, 06:28 AM
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thanks guys, I was thinking of getting a used 1st generation.... but still a little too much out of my budget for a commuter/winter car. I ended up getting a '01 Civic LX coupe- 11k miles!
01-30-2004, 09:26 PM
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Originally posted by dustbuster4
The suspension for all models is based on the 1994-97 Accord. However, there is a major difference in the 1997 brakes compared to the 1998-99 models. The 1997 CLs use a "hub over rotor design". The 1998-99 models use a rotor over hub design introduced with the "new" 1998 Accord. The 1997 front brakes are a BITCH to change or are more expensive to have replaced as compared to the 1998-99 models. The 3.0 front brakes are larger than the 2.2/2.3 of all years. The rear brakes on all year CL models are the same.
The suspension for all models is based on the 1994-97 Accord. However, there is a major difference in the 1997 brakes compared to the 1998-99 models. The 1997 CLs use a "hub over rotor design". The 1998-99 models use a rotor over hub design introduced with the "new" 1998 Accord. The 1997 front brakes are a BITCH to change or are more expensive to have replaced as compared to the 1998-99 models. The 3.0 front brakes are larger than the 2.2/2.3 of all years. The rear brakes on all year CL models are the same.
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