So... I was under the impression that I wouldn't need a camber kit with lowering springs. Apparently I was wrong, I just got an alignment and here are before & after results.

Before:
Left front
-camber -1.8
caster -3.3
toe -1.43
Right front
camber -1.8
caster -2.5
toe -0.77

Left rear
Camber -1.0
toe 0.48
Right Rear
camber -1.2
toe 0.26

After

Left front
Camber -1.6
Caster -3.3
toe -0.3 (decent)
Right front
Camber -1.7
Caster -2.5
toe -0.4 (decent)

Left rear
camber -1.0
toe 0.54 (frozen toe frozen bolt)
right rear
camber -1.2
toe 0.09 (decent)

I will post up the pic of the chart and more when I get home from dinner or later tonight. I am so pissed off right now.

 

why the hell is your caster so off? thats weird. and -1 to -1.5 isnt THAT bad, my boy is riding -2.3, going through tires like every 4 months lol. I think i'm at the same level as you on the camber actually, and i have no camber kit

 

uhh your caster is bizarre.. i wouldnt ride anything more then -1.7 as far as tire wear goes.. why didnt they adjust your caster at all? im getting an alignment probably tomorrow night, ill let you know what my results are.

 

Yep, you need a camber kit for any drop over 1.5" this is well documented on this site

 

I just went on the ingalls site and found camber adjusting control arm mounts for $77 a pair, does that sound reasonable? Is that what I need?

 

i dont have a camber kit!


but i buy new tires every 10,000!!

 

just ebay a camber kit..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ADJUS...Q5fAccessories

 

^^ Wrong. You don't cheap out on anything suspension.

 

Anybody... ingalls?

These are what i'm talking about



link to them is here: http://www.ingallseng.com/35700-3571...rm-mounts.html

tell me what you think?

 

Those will work. I opted for the adjustable ball joints though.

 

whats the difference between those and the ball joints??

So you are talking about these?

http://www.ingallseng.com/35590-adju...all-joint.html

 

I have the ingalls adjustable ball joints in the front, and ingalls washers in the rear, came in a kit from ebay

 

well what do you think i should get, your set up? 2 pairs of adjustable ball joints for the front and then what else?

 

I got the anchor point ones. The ball joint ones ...I've heard/seen on AZ that they will smash into your strut tower if you're to low.

you don't want this one tho.. -3/4° to +1° Camber Adjustment.....

You want more angle adjustment than that...Don't get polyurethane bushings for it either.

 

I have only been dropped 1.7-1.8 inches max so is that too low for the anchor point ones? Probably not right? I don't know crap about this stuff...

Can anybody link me to the ideal stuff for me to get?

 

http://www.ingallseng.com/35720-3573...rm-mounts.html

There's lots of topics on this too... Could've searched and found your answer easily.

 

yeah yeah yeah, I effed up. So those are for the front or rear? And you said make sure to get the rubber bushings ?

 

Those were front. I had polyurethane ones and they squeaked a lot. Some people have managed to get them not to squeak but it was way to annoying. Another camber kit+alignment later my car was quiet again.

This is for the rear.

http://www.ingallseng.com/38811-3883...left-side.html

 

yea i didnt think i needed a camber kit for my s techs but i think i might need one in the front

 

-3 degrees here

 

okay so I decided i'm gonna get these on the rear

http://www.sportcompactonly.com/part_p-104432.htm

and

http://www.ingallseng.com/35720-3573...rm-mounts.html

Do these work with the measurements I have/need?

I need to know asap because my dad's willing to help me out with the parts.

 

In a straight line

 

dude ingalls is great. for the rear all you need is some washers.

Goodluck

 

Chris do you think those two things i linked above would be perfect for me? Considering the degrees my camber is out and what not? I'm going into boston, talk to you guys when I get back.

 

I'd like to hear some input from someone that has that front setup since I'm only familiar with the front ball joints, the rears are what I plan to get eventually

 

i have a feeling im gunna have the same problem nate ahah gettin it checked out tomorrow. for the rear just use washers there's a DIY.

 

yeah, im dropping my car off before work next door tomorrow.. hope i dont have this issue. although nate said he had visible camber, which i have none

 

check the inside of the tire

 

the wear is universal across the tread, although i doubt ive driven far enough for it to make an impact. ive only put about 500 miles or so on it since i dropped it

 

wow, that sucks dude
i dunno what all this talk is about from heavy wear from just camber
i think i've put about 20000kms on my already well used tires and they got life left, and i rub pretty good on the fronts

after alignment i have
left front
camber -2.69
caster 3.14
toe 0.02

right front
camber -2.94
caster 3.58
toe 0.02

left rear
camber -2.49
toe 0.08

right rear
camber -2.25
toe 0.10

wasn't much different before the alignment tho, just the tow was out a bit, but not even what yours is out now, the most was the left front at -0.34

good luck Nate

edit: note this is running no camber kit, just k-sports and nothing else, i like my camber

 

I installed that kit a couple weeks after I put my coilovers on and got an alignment a week after that. I've had some suspension repair work done since then and haven't had time to get another alignment. I have to run a good amount of negative camber to keep my control arms from slamming on bumps and dips, but caster is fine. Install is a piece of cake, less than 30 min per side. I haven't messed with the rear.

If I could go back I would probably have gotten the ball joint kit instead.

 

wow, this makes me glad I went with the Neuspeed springs, I didn't have anything out of spec by more than .75 deg before alignment and everything within spec after. right at -1.0 on my camber. I wouldn't even want to go lower either, for clearance reasons.

 

Fuck it. If or when I get my drop, It's gonna be slammed on coilovers. Might as well get the most out of my money right?

 

Have fun buying new tires all the time then

 

Anyways, can somebody answer my question? Are these 100% good to get for my car? I want to order the right parts the first time and install them ASAP.

Please let me know guys, thanks

 

welcome to the world of lowered cars.. my cl's back left was always lower than the rest.. never did find out why lol

 

You guys think these ^ ^ ^
would be better? They cost $105 as opposed to the other Camber Adjusting Control Arm Mounts which are $85 ... I am trying to buy the $85 stuff i don't have much money.


So balljoints or camber adjusting control arm mounts? Would prefer to spend less, but if the balljoints would be better... let me know

 

same here man i think im going to order what u r getting for the front because my springs are 1.7 in the front

 

I have the anchor ones and the rear camber kit...ingalls all around. I'm on tein SS though. If that makes a difference to your choice of camber kit etc...

I got the anchor ones because I saw other users on AZ complain about the ball joint/control arm slamming into the strut tower.

If you're low enough though. You're gonna drive with negative camber anyway to avoid rubbing.

And you can only adjust the anchor ones, and the ball joint ones to probably, so much until the control arm hits that little lip on the inner fender...

 

camber kits are garbage. unless you're slammed 3 inches, tire wear is minimal. just watch your toe adjustments. that will eat your tires in 2 weeks .