Im really pouring some effort into researching what I'll need for turboing the f23...

so a questions for you guys are:

ACT clutch what is the going price for these? I see around 400 dollars?

ACT flywheel 7.5lbs or UR flywheel 10lbs. price difference is about $100 the ACT being cheaper...? which is better?

I'm sure there will be many more questions later. thanks in advance.

 

not worth it
the low amount of boost that you HAVE to use is minimal and in my opinion not worth the cash
holler at 98clturbo, ive learned alot reading about how he did it to the f22

 

looks good to me... he is running 253whp at 13psi with other mods of course... but that is also the 2.2.

looks worth it to me. and more cost effective at the moment than going h22... no more money for turboing h22... so trying to go f23 turboed.

 

i think you should just upgrade your clutch.

i have an act stage II street/race clutch

 

by turbo'ing your f23, you should have some nice power, once you have your engine built.

 

well if I am going turbo Im going to need an upgraded clutch and I'll want a much lighter fly wheel... from niedejb's website he weighed stock flywheel at 20 lbs... afermarket 7.5 or 10 or 12.5

 

f23 i got a 99

 

go for it

 

do you have an auto, or 5 speed?

 

omg stop whoring and look at my sig.

 

ive been wanting to do that for 2 years but my honda fanatic friends tell me that unless i get upgraded (pistons, rods and retainers, fuel mgmt system & a few other things i forgot) that it wont be too dependable
but do it and show a step-by-step installation (like 98clturbo) and to you i will forever be in debt

 

sorry, im not used to this web site. on the other forums i browse, the sig is attached to each persons post. i dont know why this forum makes you view the persons sig, when they start a new thread.

 

http://home.insightbb.com/~niedejb/

click on the turbo link... complete install.

yeah ull need fuel management, fuel regulater, engine mount inserts, blah blah... in process of researching...

 

youll only need those if you want to boost higher. you can safely install a turbo kit and run 5-7 psi, on a stock motor.

 

oh my bad it was niedejb not 98clturbo

keep me updated, as determined as u seem 2 be i might give it another thought, ill talk to some of my genius buddies and see if i can throw in some more advice

 

5-7 psi is pretty shitty though, im talking about at least 10


i wonder if the p&p will have any major difference?

 

visit neidejb's website.

 

been visiting for years...

 

Here wants some advice www.sparkracing.com dey specialize in turbo they had one of the first newew accords turbo`d out so they have a kit for your car ask for anthony.

 

turboing the f23 is a good idea..although i have turboed my f23 and blew it up in about a week....if you do it right you will be fine.
TUNING is the key..you may want to look into getting aem or hondata...with that you will be able to run 10-12psi safely.....the reason my motor blew the first time was because i didnt get it tuned (hey you learn from your mistakes right) like i said tuning is the key..
as far as the clutch and flywheel question..
look into ACT 6puck disc & extreme pressure plate and the 7.5 lbs fly...

the lighter the flywheel the quicker the motor revs which in the case of the f23 tranny is a GOOD thing

niedjb did a really good job on his car and he did it right (well almost he used an AFC, which you can use but i wouldnt recomend it)
GOOD LUCK
remember tune it b4 you try to race someone on the highway and blow the motor like a dick.........hmmm am i talk about myself again...i think ill shut up now

 

Im turboing my f23 in May, got tuning scheduled for May 19th. If you want a detailed write up about how everything worked out Id be happy to help once its finished. First thing ive noticed with niedejbs install is that the intercooler cannot be mounted that high on the 2.3, at least not without cutting the actual bumper structure inside which im not about to do. The goal is to max out the stock MAP sensor, about 10-11 psi. Picked up my hondata today. I cant wait ive been researching and ordering stuff forever now. As for the clutch and flywheel, lighter the better. I have a fidanza which i think is about 8 pounds. Clutch I have an ACT extreme pressure plate with organic street disc. I wish I had gotten a beefier setup but I was worried about having a rock hard clutch pedal and I wasnt planning on boost to 10 at that point.

 

how many miles do you have on your f23? I got a lot 80k.

I'm thinking of trying to get a back up motor just in case... or run the shit our of it and then swap in a 40-50k motor. Those are pretty easy to find right? Well I'll look into it after I post this.

 

how does the f22b (JDM version) fit into the engine bay.? same dimentions and connections and things like that?

 

E bay almost always has used f23s (they are under accord engine or f23a1, but not just f23 for the most part). You can get one with under 50k with 1 year warranty and freight for 600, and there are others without warranties that are cheaper. Im going to hit 50k in the next 2 weeks, might even be almost dead even when i bolt on the turbo. Even thought the mileage is fairly low, Im getting new rod bearings if I can get an appointment somewhere next week just for a little extra engine safety.

 

the f23 from the 98-02 accords different from the 94-97? obviously since header, intake are different. so why is the engine code the same? f23a1

 

I dont think there was an f23 from 94-97. Dont know who is listing them as the same engine code.

 

oh oops...

so why is it when I am buying parts for my engine... I have to buy parts that fit the 94-97 accord: i.e. cam gears, pulleys, header, intake, plugs, wires...

my 99 2.3 cl has engine code f23a1

the ones on ebay are f23a1 but from the 98-02 model accord.

so I am wondering why I buy parts from the 94-97 but supposedly the 98-02 accord engine is the same...

 

EDIT: (time expired while editting)

I looked up some engine codes... so what people are really saying is that the 97 2.2 CL should use the parts from the 94-97 EX accord with engine code F22A2

but, I suppose that the 98-99 2.3 CL with engine code F23A1 is the same engine used in the 98-02 4cyl Accords.

So... in essense the 98-99 2.3 CL can use parts from the 94-02 accord?

just a thought.

here is a referance chart, a few of you may find it helpful one day.
http://integra.orcon.net.nz/engines

 

when are you gunna do this?

 

well money wise probably wont happen until end of summer into fall, almost winter time, by then I'll probably need a new f23a1 too... by then I'll have enough to pick up a new/er one.

EDIT: I was debating whether or not to get the car painted too... since I am getting the WW lip and plan on getting the OEM spoiler. But that will be to much money. Decision is before the turbo, get the lip, spoiler, and front and rear bumpers painted, maybe the trunk lid too who knows, shit my hood needs painting too..... maybe just the spoiler and lip, factory match.

 

oic. if you were to buy a turbo kit, where would you buy it from? brand new?

 

the 94-97 accord ex is basically the same as the 98-02 accord/2.3cl which is the f23 motor...the only difference is the displacement.....

my motor was the f23...i had a drag gen2 turbo kit on it from a 94-97 accord ex

 

so in reality when people ask what model to buy things from it doesn't really matter whether or not you buy it from the 94-97 or the 98-02 accord? interesting. This site has drilled it into me that the 4cyl only uses parts from the 94-97

 

I was looking at f max and I was looking at drag.

we'll see. maybe even piece together a "custom" kit try and find and get all the parts separately and buy the piping from muffler shop.

 

yup, mix match kits are also good.

 

I need a full list of stuff I'm going to need to a turbo.


besides the things that come in an fmax kit, anyone can supply that list please?

 

the fmax kit comes with everything you need to run a maximum of 7psi. If you want to run more boost and get more power per pound you need a hondata, ems, or similar and upgrade other parts as well, such as the injectors. there is a pretty wide span of things you can do to upgrade a kit, or just make your own. the forced induction forum on honda-tech is very helpful.

 

http://www.turbo-kits.com/accord_tur...s.html#contact

is this a good price for the kit itself? $3299 with free ball bearing upgrade and free shipping? I don't think I've seen this kit any cheaper.

plus another 800 or so for clutch and fly wheel... fuel management 200? are these the kind of numbers im looking at? or is piecing together a kit cheaper.

this kit fits the h22 too... so if I ever want to swap to an h22 I can just bolt this thing onto an h22. good stuff!

 

actually no and no

you will end up spending more on proper fuel management than that.....at least 600 althe way up to 5000..depends on what you want..

as for the turbo kit working with the h22 motor...everything will work except the manifold..(header)

there is a lot of things that you will need to get that the turbo kits dont come with

 

a shopping list would be very helpful and greatly appreciated