This might be a very stupid question, I have done some searching but theres nothin on this stopic, I have driven standard vehicles since I was 16 and know them like the back of my hand. But automatic is another case. Can someone explain the best way to get max acceleration and speed from driving auto. Im sure its not just put it in 4th and go.
I have tried banging it from 1st and before the car redlines popping it in 4th but I can hear and feel the tranny jump but the car does get added speed. Does anyone know how to get max performance from switching gears in automtic????

 

just push your gas pedal in, and put it in d3 and let it redline by itself............................

 

I've experienced best performance in D3. You're not going to get satisfactory results by manually shifting it - in fact I've found that 2 is very slow in comparison to leaving it in 3 and letting it shift itself.

 

this wont F**K up the tranny

 

no way, d3 is ALOT better than gate shifting.

 

WHAT DOES EACH GEAR IN AUTOMATIC REPRESENT?????
obviously not real standard gears, because you can drive from stop in 4th gear

 

I assume you have a 3.0?

1st: It's not a good idea to do that to a car that has impending transmission failure, whether it's 3.0 or 2.x autos.

However, it's your car so do whatever you want.

There are two methods:

- Gate shifting: when you want to launch the car, put the car in 1st, accelerate up to redline, upshift to 2nd, 3rd, and so forth. This method is very bad for your tranny and you might make a mistake and mis-shift.

- 3rd gear launch + power braking (might not be the right term...): Put the car in 3rd, fully depress the brake pedal with your left foot, use your right foot to apply gas up to a point where the car is about to overcome the braking force. When you want to go, let go of the brake pedal and stomp on the gas instantly. You have to time it perfectly so that the gas is fully applied a little bit before the brake pedal is released fully. This is less damaging (irrelevant at this point) to the transmission than the previous method.

* Tip for the second method: To rev your car even higher, while your car is at a complete stop and brake pedal depressed, put it in neutral and rev it to near the red zone, then proceed with the instruction above.*

To take it easier on the tranny, you can just put the car in 3rd and step on the gas, significant change in torque delivery.

All of these methods still kills your transmission though...


*i'm a little late to the party *

 

1-first gear
2-second gear
3=automatic w/o overdrive and will only go upto 3rd gear and will drive as normal automatic 1-2-3
4=automatic w/overdrive will start with 1 then work its way up the gears 1-2-3-4-o/d

 

neutral bombs are a BIG thats the worst you can do to your transmission.

 

which suggestion would put the least amount of strain on the tranny, cause I have the original tranny on my 97 and im tryna keep it that way

 

putting it in d3 is the easiest way because it will drop the gear for you and take it to redline and will redline 1-2-3rd all the way to 180kph.

 

Yes, it is four real standard gears, especially in a Honda Automatic. You just can't access third and fourth directly.

 

let me know when you need a new tranny i can get a deal on it.....

 

well I figured that

 

Every method described in this thread will lead to tranny failure.

If any... Dead stop in D3 to 65mph shifting to D4 is the safest.

 

no need to go to d4 until you top out 3rd gear.

 

Solution= get another car, the car wasn't meant to be driven like a sports car but if you must the methods listed above cover it. If i was you i would focus on preventative maintenance first (e.g. tranny cooler, changing tranny fluid regulary, etc.) and saving $$$ for when the tranny takes a shit on you.

 

when im in the mood for a little fun I punch it down through the gears, start to right about fuel cut..... the Sound is amazing....... anyways, consistency is better in the AUto mode. but ive pulled better times in manual mode, since our few gears are so damn wide I always push it up to redline and beyond, shifting right before fuel cut, so that I can ensure VTEC into the next gear.... once im finished with my Nitrous install though thatll all stop since Ill have the Nitrous assiting me up the rev band


then when I hit the twisties its almost always in "2", always, so that it stays there, some autos just have a mind of their own and I dont want it shifting in the middle of a corner

 

Ive been lookin at urs actually, but I bought my car for its looks not how fast it is. Its speed is just an added plus, I would have preferred the 3.0 in stick but what can u do.

 

 

I hear you bro but I'd definately still look into getting a tranny cooler cause you'll be running through tranny's like no tomorrow even with moderate driving, It can get quite costly. If you could find a 6mt second gen pick it up, I love the CL-S

 

read it again, i said rev the car while it's in neutral, THEN proceed with the second method.

 

haha yes again!

dominates the Acurazine world. lol

fluffies for allllll

 

isnt it the same? you're still going from neutral to putting a load on it even though the vehicle isnt moving, your engine and transmission still are.

 

Um yeah, neutral dumping your tranny is not smart i don't care what tranny you have

 

dude, i'm not telling him to neutral dump the car. you guys don't understand what i'm saying:

1) Apply brake, put car in neutral, rev to near red zone.

2) Let the engine wind down (still in neutral) until it is at idle.

3) Put the car in 3rd, then apply brake and gas just enough so that the car is not overcoming the (increased by doing step 1) braking force.

4) Launch the car by letting go of the brake pedal while simultaneously smash the gas pedal (timing).

I don't know how i can make this any clearer... it's not neutral dumping, which is when you rev the car in neutral and dump the shift lever to 4th or 3rd while the engine is still revving....

 

so like Brake boosting....... kinda

dont see the purpose of step 2 though??

 

That's right: Brake Boosting! i was blanking out... step 2 was just to explain to others that i'm not suggesting neutral dumping...

 

Yeah this is how I nuked the auto in my 5g accord. Too many brake stall launches. Too much shifting. Tranny was rebult when I bought the car at 110k and it now sits dead in my driveway at 142k. So if I can kill the 4cyl auto that fast, just imagine what that 3.0 will do in that amount of time. I didn't drive like a madman all the time but when I did it felt it. I reget not putting a tranny cooler on and switching it to synthetic when I bought it. But a little late for that, now I dunno what to do with that car.

 

Brake boosting makes more sense than "rev your car up to red and drop it in neutral"

 

I stand corrected.. went outside to do the usual monthly start up / warm up of the accord, and it moved! Going to swap in some synthetic tranny fluid once it gets warmer out... but seriously don't shift gears in an auto or you will have lawn ornament.

 

I dunno about you, but I "Manually": shift my gears all the time since I bought the car at 85k, now im sitting at 140k and its no worse than it was before

 

Well my theory has always been that the previous owner had a crappy rebuilt... but yet again it was my first car and it got redlined consistently every day... I beat the piss out of it.

Edit: But there were times when I was civilized.. but probably 2/3rds of my ownership was between 4000 - 7000rpm

 

oh haha, i thought you meant rev it upto redline in neutral, then hold brake in and dump it into gear.

 

yeah, mine too its sees the other end of the redline on plenty of occasions, but it just keeps fighting on, the Power of Honda

 

this thread cracks me up....
unless you have one of those influenceable automatics, tip tronics, SMGs w/e or a manual...no shifting for you.

 

lol "influenceable" is definitely right. Half those budget SMG's don't ever listen.. and they automatically assume you forgot to shift when you hit redline... such a joke they are.

 

I dunno whether to call ours smart or dumb then since its influecable, but itll rev itself all the way up and wont even shift out even of youre bouncing off the rev limiter

 

what about down shifting with automatic, will that mess up the tranny

 

you can do it just fine, I Engine brake the car all the time, you just have to remember to ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS Rev match it...... otherwise it will hurt the tranny

if you dont know what im talking about you just kick in the gas when youre shifting it down, you kick up the revs in the time lag it takes the tranny to do it all, itll make it ALOT smoother on you and alot healthier for the tranny, but it can generate quite a bit of noise when youre doing it At higher RPMs closer to the shift point, basically when youre trying to engine brake it, thats like dropping into 3rd at about 90 and 2nd at about 55, itll be louder, but I honestly love the sound, doing it in any of the other family cars doesnt sound as good, especially the Tiburon