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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 11:53 AM
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Should I get a 3.0?

I recently totaled my 99 2.3 CL; I'm looking for a new car, and on auto trader I found this car, the Auto Trader ID is: AT-E06DDB2.

I carfaxed the vehicle and although he says he's only selling the car because he has no real need for it anymore due to him going off to school; the carfax says he's only had it around 3 months....

I talked to him real briefly since he was out the door on his way to work. I talked just long enough to get the VIN so I could carfax it.

The carfax also says that it has had 4 owners (including this kid who's owned it only 3 months) There isn't anything wrong w/ it according to the carfax, but I don't want to waste my time and my friends gas to drive 50 miles there and then 50 miles back. (the 3.0 is in Reading, PA and I'm in York, PA) so it will be a few drives if I don't get the car the same day....

If anyone knows this car LET ME KNOW! It's from a private dealer and I don't want a P.O.S.
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 01:09 PM
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3.0's are great cars, as long as the tranny holds up. Everyone here is going to hate on the tranny but if it's solid or you don't mind throwin a little money at it, they're great cars, and the motors are bulletproof. Sorry to hear about your other CL.
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 01:33 PM
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why would u buy a car and sell it in 3 months.. tranny is probably bad
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 04:05 PM
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why would u buy a car and sell it in 3 months.. tranny is probably bad
+1 the kid probably caught on fast..............4 owners is pretty bad, kinda like my car
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 06:18 PM
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Probably has a tranny going bad...that's why I sold mine.
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 07:48 PM
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Any ideas on how much it would cost to replace one, I can afford the car, tax and tags but not much more. I would like to have a 3.0 CL but I don't want a money pit of a car.
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 07:55 PM
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ill sell you mine so i can buy a new cl
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy2.3
Any ideas on how much it would cost to replace one, I can afford the car, tax and tags but not much more. I would like to have a 3.0 CL but I don't want a money pit of a car.
i agree with everyone else. i saw alot of CL's on craig's list so check those out first.
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 08:41 PM
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ill sell you mine so i can buy a new cl
Dont u have a 3.0?
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 08:42 PM
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 08:45 PM
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Average tranny rebuild is $2000-2800
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 08:48 PM
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i meant 2.2
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 97BlackAckCL
Average tranny rebuild is $2000-2800

OUCH

I was also looking at these two other cars on auto trader, the #'s are:
DE5E53B and
D37FFA7

I don't really have the money to put a new tranny in if it does crap out right away. Also I don't want to have anyone drive me 100 miles only to find out the car is not worth it. Both othe cars carfax alright.
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 09:25 PM
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Look closer man
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 09:36 PM
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look closer...

except for a "minor" incident with a parked car...
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 10:41 PM
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Andy, if you want me to check out the Reading car, PM me the details and I'll check it out for you. .
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy2.3
I recently totaled my 99 2.3 CL; I'm looking for a new car, and on auto trader I found this car, the Auto Trader ID is: AT-E06DDB2.

I carfaxed the vehicle and although he says he's only selling the car because he has no real need for it anymore due to him going off to school; the carfax says he's only had it around 3 months....

I talked to him real briefly since he was out the door on his way to work. I talked just long enough to get the VIN so I could carfax it.

The carfax also says that it has had 4 owners (including this kid who's owned it only 3 months) There isn't anything wrong w/ it according to the carfax, but I don't want to waste my time and my friends gas to drive 50 miles there and then 50 miles back. (the 3.0 is in Reading, PA and I'm in York, PA) so it will be a few drives if I don't get the car the same day....

If anyone knows this car LET ME KNOW! It's from a private dealer and I don't want a P.O.S.
better to wait and find another car. for any car you do look at, make sure to have a mechanic check it out. btw, i'm scheduled to sell my 98 3.0 sometime next year when kid #2 starts going to school. where are you at?
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 05:52 PM
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i'll sell you my 3.0 , I'm in King of Prussia, PA. I'm tryna get into a CLS MANUAL!
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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 07:58 PM
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Already found one.

I just bought a 98 2.3 CL 130,000 miles for $5,300. No bad carfax either. Sorry to everyone who offered a car for sale. I guess I should of got on Azine first..... I know I know Shame on me.
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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy2.3
I just bought a 98 2.3 CL 130,000 miles for $5,300. No bad carfax either. Sorry to everyone who offered a car for sale. I guess I should of got on Azine first..... I know I know Shame on me.
congrat's you made the right choice...maybe new the 3.0 was a good buy, used its too risky with that brokedick tranny. is the 2.3 manual/auto?
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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 09:09 PM
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congrat's you made the right choice...maybe new the 3.0 was a good buy, used its too risky with that brokedick tranny. is the 2.3 manual/auto?
ONCE AGAIN,IT'S NOT JUST THE 3.0, SEARCH HOW MANY 2.X AUTO'S HAD TO BE REPLACED!!!!MY MOMS ACCORD(2.2 AUTO) WAS REPLACED @ LIKE 50K AND MY 3.0 ORIGINAL LASTED 150K+. SEARCH THE 2G CL/TL FORUMS FOR ALL THE TRANNY FAILURES AND EVEN WITH MY 3G TL-S I'M SCARED OF THE AUTOTRAGIC!!! IN GENERAL HONDA/ACURA'S AUTO'S SUCK DONKEY DICK.


to Andy: good luck with the new ride and be safe.......
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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 09:21 PM
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yes im aware of the fact that honda had shitty automatics....but since we are talking the first gen cl here and where you have a choice of 3.0 vs 2.x, buyin one 10 years after production this is important. so in his case it wouldnt make sense to buy a 10 year old car that has potential tranny failures, better off going 2.x manual
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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 09:29 PM
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yes im aware of the fact that honda had shitty automatics....but since we are talking the first gen cl here and where you have a choice of 3.0 vs 2.x, buyin one 10 years after production this is important. so in his case it wouldnt make sense to buy a 10 year old car that has potential tranny failures, better off going 2.x manual
I totally agree with the MANUAL has a better chance of lasting longer if driven/cared for properly. I was merely stating a 2.x AUTO has just as much potential to crap out as a 3.0.

so andy auto or 5speed?
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 12:43 PM
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OK everyone laugh at me, I can't drive 5 speed that well. I can drive my brothers P.O.S. 5-speed civic but his whole is almost shot, so it could just be his car afterall. However none of my friends w/ manuals let me anywhere near their car cause of the accident.

I also noticed that the rims on my 98 are diffrent then my old ones on my 99;
My previous 99 had: 5-spoke two prong rims.
My new 98 has 7-spoke rims.
I accctually like the old rims better, and the tires that were on my 99 were only 4 day old: Michelen Exalto A/S that cost a pretty penny !!!
The 98 has new tires, but they aren't rated as well on consumer reports.

I'll get pics up as soon as possible, but I warn you I STILL do not have a good camera.

On a side note though, I did salvage my old floor mats, my trunk netting, the spare tire that was in my 99 (since it was never used and the 98's spare is no good) A few spare bulbs that the insurance will probably won't miss. A center cap, so on and so forth....
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 12:46 PM
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/\ see, i'm sure if u got behind a normally working manual CL, you wouldn't have nearly as much trouble driving stick. its alot harder to learn on a car thats not working properly, and honda's are the easiest to learn on
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Originally Posted by Andy2.3
OK everyone laugh at me, I can't drive 5 speed that well. I can drive my brothers P.O.S. 5-speed civic but his whole is almost shot, so it could just be his car afterall. However none of my friends w/ manuals let me anywhere near their car cause of the accident.

I also noticed that the rims on my 98 are diffrent then my old ones on my 99;
My previous 99 had: 5-spoke two prong rims.
My new 98 has 7-spoke rims.
I accctually like the old rims better, and the tires that were on my 99 were only 4 day old: Michelen Exalto A/S that cost a pretty penny !!!
The 98 has new tires, but they aren't rated as well on consumer reports.

I'll get pics up as soon as possible, but I warn you I STILL do not have a good camera.

On a side note though, I did salvage my old floor mats, my trunk netting, the spare tire that was in my 99 (since it was never used and the 98's spare is no good) A few spare bulbs that the insurance will probably won't miss. A center cap, so on and so forth....
we need to meet up so i can see her. i live in lancaster so im not that far away... shoot me a pm n ill give u my number cant wait to c pics tho
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 10:03 PM
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 09:28 PM
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Pics of old and New

New: It has a few minor scratches and places to be touched up....





It needs a new window molding piece, and the side one I took off the 99...






Old: Somehow I left without a single scratch...











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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 09:32 PM
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damn your old one got messed up.
are you parting it out?
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 12:41 PM
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Holy crap that old CL got toasted. New one looks nice, stick or auto?
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 04:22 PM
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The new 98 is auto since I can't drive stick all that well. I'm not parting it out either because the insurance company is somehow giving me $6,500 for the old one. Of course I did switch the spares, and took the trunk net, and took out a bulb or two, and a center cap, all my audio stuff, switch out the new cupholder for my old one that has a working lid, a wheel lock, some window molding and a few "minor" parts...

But what wheels are those on my 98? Aren't they to a 3.0? Because my new car is still a 2.3...... Also I'm thinking of doing some mods with every last penny of X-mas money I get...
I want to get smoked corners for this car since it's white.
I want to replace the gold pinstripe with another pinstripe probably black, and probably as unpopular as my last one on my 99!
I might paint the inside triangles on the the wheels black, but I'm not sure yet...
I'm reading alot of the DIY's again, maybe looking at a V2; but holy crap, they are expensive! I bought a replacement K&N air filter for my last car and thought doing that was pretty fun, so putting on a CAI should be a blast! I also am contiplating on blacking out the head light housing.... Of course the old stereo is going back in minus the busted head unit.... and I was looking at a pair of black washer fluid nozzles that spray 3 dirrections, although that's kinda a little ricey looking isn't it? And does anyone remember a DIY for the clock using part of a auqafina label?
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 09:01 PM
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The V2 intake is not worth it. Just pickup an eBay CAI (I put on a Ram Air), and put a good K&N or AEM cone filter on it.

Black headlight housing = awesome, I wish I was able to do it when I put my new headlights in.

No black washer sprayers.

The DIY you're looking for is in the DIY forum, I believe it's called "Cheapo blue clock mod"
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The V2 intake is not worth it. Just pickup an eBay CAI (I put on a Ram Air), and put a good K&N or AEM cone filter on it.

Black headlight housing = awesome, I wish I was able to do it when I put my new headlights in.

No black washer sprayers.

The DIY you're looking for is in the DIY forum, I believe it's called "Cheapo blue clock mod"
skip on the V2 intake
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skip on the V2 intake
They're not worth it
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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by DoubleSh0t
The V2 intake is not worth it. Just pickup an eBay CAI (I put on a Ram Air), and put a good K&N or AEM cone filter on it.
Has anyone installed one of these:
http://www.performancecenter.com/pro...94/Accord/2.2L

I don't really trust the e-bay vendors, and that seems like a resonable price... right?

Also I was quoted $100 dollars a wheel, for powder coating the inside triangles black on my rims. I thought it was a bit steep, but does anyone have a idea of how much it should cost? I also was quoted $400 for having all my lights smoked and buffed. Thats for the corner turn signals and the rear lights etc. The shop said that having the covers buffed would be a better idea then just smoking them. Any input?
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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 05:49 PM
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get rock blocker rear overlays, get the $20 ebay intake, get the ebay smoked clear corners.
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get rock blocker rear overlays, get the $20 ebay intake, get the ebay smoked clear corners.
and then just pay to get the wheels powdercoated
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i would honestly get new wheels for $100 a piece, thats about how much they are for aftermarket wheels without tires.
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 08:47 PM
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Here are a few pics I had lying around of my old 2.3.....









They were taken with a disposable camera and scanned, so yes, they are crapy quality....
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