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LoL! What a waste of gas for the both of us.

Alright, so Ryan (he was the one that traded his H22 CL in) and I decide to run tonight. We meet up about half way from where we both live. (btw Ryan has a new 350z that was just broken in....sweet ride...)....So we line up and this new street I guess. My friend flags us and we're off. I get the launch, but that's about all I got. LoL. He beat me by about 2 1/2 cars. That shit sucked. My tires just spun all till 3rd. We shut it off right around the middle of 3rd (well at least for me, not sure what gear he would be in). Anywya,s so we line up the for a second run, and same thing happens. I just quit by the beginning of 2nd, it was pointless to continue. He smoked my friend with the type S RSX too.

So then we decide to run on the freeway. LoL! That was a waste too. My car just got stuck at a certain rpm and wouldnt move anymore. Then there was another time where it just sat at 7,000rpm! I thought that motor was gonna blow, lol, since we redline at 6250. Don't know how it got to 7k, but it did. Anyways, I came home only to find the bottle empty. I'm guessing that's why it didnt move on the freeway and it kept bogging. I only got to use it for 3 runs, my friend had 5 runs in it before giving me back my kit.

Hey Ryan, you should try and post the video.

 

Forgot to mention I ran a GT mustang (probably around 00-02 model). I ran him before leaving to go run Ryan. Beat him at least. Left him and his friend with a surprised look on their face.

 

sup pimpin? dow u like them cam's?

 

hehe, havent installed them...just had em machined, lol. They'll be put in soon along with everything else...

 

I wanna see that.

Cocoa you got a 3.0? what shot nitrous?

 

dogg..... its in his sig..

 

yeah, hardly ever read those

 

perhaps you need better tires. a coworker of mine just got a brand new Z for $28k It's sweet

 

125 shot

and I just got the Azenis......i need wider rims so that I can get wider tires, that should help.

 

Wider won't help that much, you need some kind of drag radials at least. FWD sucks for traction from a stop - all the weight goes to the back, which leaves you a light front end = spinning tires. Real stiff suspention in the back would go along ways too.

Get some traction, and you should be able to beat him (at least .5-1 car) as long as he stays stock.

 

yeah, get some wheelie bars!

 

Or replace the back struts with steel rods

 

theres a video at a track in teh 2g forum of a cl w/ nos beating a wrx i think it was.. obviously teh wrx schooled him for about 75% of the race.. the flew past him at the end... fwd is the devil

 

why would you bog w/o juice? You'd run normal?


and are you on a WOT window? If so ditch that shit and throw in a button. I never got traction w/ the WOT window. I had a button and would hit it around 3K

 

If you have to have the auto WOT, then get an RPM switch too. MSD makes a nice one that is double, so you can have it pass the WOT signal after 3K rpm, and shut it off at 6K rpm.

 

I already have drag radials

Well I do have kyb agx shocks that are going in this week. I'm setting it at the stiffest setting.

Yes, it is the WOT window

And I think it bogged when I ran out of nitrous because it's a wet kit ???? I always thought that it did that because I was running too rich since the wet kit takes fuel from my fuel lines and injects it in the CAI. But I'm not sure if that's the cause though. Anyways, I hope after tuning it it will help.

 

I think I'll look into that MSD window proaudio22, thanks for the advice.

 

your going to want to keep that WOT window but you going to want to hook it up to a button so you dont accidentally roll onto that button when your not at WOT.... cuz if you do..

 

Whats up guys!

Those were definately some fun races! The first race from a stop would have been real close if cocoa had some traction.... his burnout marks were LLLLOOOONNNGG! After he got traction it looked like he was hanging pretty good. Thats why I thought the freeway run would be close, but the empty bottle explains that.. I thought your friends RSX-S would hang a little better on the highway... (had e/cai/rh/ hondata #4) From a stop I knew he was toast tho
Chris I sent you a PM.

PS-My friend is editing the vid.. Quality is not so great, put I'll post it up ASAP.

 

BTW- chris one of the freeway runs, your car sounded like it blew up!! Scared the shit outta me. I think you'll be able to hear it in the vid.

 

haha...yea I've been scared a couple of times. It backed fired at the end of 2nd gear in redline when I raced a wrx awhile back. I thought I blew my motor then too, lol.

 

Damn I'm having a hard time getting this movie on the net... I have it burned to a dvd now, but it's in a weird format.. VOB..? I have to convert it to something else @ work today, to a format that we-todd will let me upload.

 

fuck it, just do a button, will run you $10

 

if it only goes when you are pushing the button then one accidental hit won't do any damage, plus it's a wet kit, so no worries. I think in an auto 3.0 it would be best to put the button on the top of the shift knob, so you can gate shift (which does actually help a little if you do it right) and press it only at the right rpms, don't want it to be spraying when you're in teh middle of a shift. Can you say "fried clutch packs"?

 

I just had it on a wire so I could hold it in my hand. I'd let off right before shifting.

 

shit.... chris I have the vid on a DVD now, but I have no clue how to extract the footage and convert it to a smaller file to host on the net..? It's probably not gonna work. The vid actually turned oout pretty cool. The footage isn't "great" but you can see what happens, and we made some funny comments while racing that I didn't even know were on camera.

In one part, when we were on the freeway, I was like "Damn I got an extra passenger" then robby my camera man goes "yeah we got an extra 180 lbs" and it gets dead quiet for like 5 secs, and then I'm like...."you don't weight 180 fool" and we both start laughing.

We'll do it again when your car is running good, and we'll get a good camera man that also knows how to put the vid on the net.

 

The 350Z can easily handle the RSX Type S, with all the stuff the Type S put on the 350Z runs stock. That is my biggest problem with Acura/Honda they are not steppin up to the plate while Nissan,Subaru, Mitsubishi is bringing out the big guns.Cocoa's CL sounds like it should of kept up better, but I guess the added weight also made it difficult to hang with the 350Z

 

Traction - he can't get the car moving - one other advantage the Z has, RWD.

I love the Z (prob get one in the spring), but a hosed CL prob would edge it out in the 1/4. It's possible to get high 13s with a Z stock, which is where Cocoa should be running with all the bolt ons and a 125.

 

So many peeps forget to let off a bit before redline, bangs the limiter every time.

This is sorta why I like the RPM switches, you can have it activate and deactivate outside your preset limit. You can still do a manual button or WOT control.

 

I got my kyb agx's installed. Damn, that took me awhile to do the rears. I haven't driven the car since sunday, so I still have a 1/2 tank of race gas. I'm planning on refilling my bottle tomorrow and get a few practice runs with it. I'll see if the shocks help any. I bet you more than anything it was the road that we raced on that affected the traction of the car. That road was new and smooth. Because when I raced the GT mustang before heading out to meet with ryan, my tires were spinning, but not as much as it was against ryan. But we'll see...

 

the 350 is a six.which you know...and the subie and mitsu are torboed..which you know also, but you have to remember, honda prides itself on being an economy, and environmentally focused corp. I think performance is on the brain, but not as much as being an efficent car company. reliability and being "clean" doesn't come with balls out performance.

 

I'll add to this...

Honda prides itself in building small displacement engines with high output. The Integra and Civic Type R, NSX, and the S2000 are examples of that. When every other car maker was building turbo cars, Honda built the NA NSX. When others made RWD cars, Honda stuck to its efficient FWD set-up. Mind you, I would LOVE to have a RWD Honda sedan, I commend them for not following the pack. When other car makers were producing V8's for their luxury vehicles, Honda still used the V6 with better fuel economy. The new RL is an example that Honda is inovative and not a follower. The masses wanted RWD, but Honda did them one better and gave them the most advanced AWD system in the world. They do care about performance, but they don't want to sacrifice anything that the Company is known for and built on.

 

HOLy SHIT!! Chris I hate to say this, but if your RSX friend really has the DC race header and hondata like he said,.... he can't drive.

I just ran an RSX-S last night that had only CAI/RH/Hondata, and it was a damn close race every time... (from a roll that is) He wouldn't go from a stop. I could only put 1-1.5 cars on him, and I was putting 4+ cars on your friend easy from a roll and that was with my spare tire in... Last night I took it out and the thing is seriously like 40-50 lbs. Plus your friend had exhaust too, whereas this guy didn't.

The dudes that ran me made a sick video...it should be up tomorrow for sure. They don't fail at computers like my friends!

BTW- to be honest that road we raced on felt pretty sticky to me. Well I guess I can't compare it to much, that was only like the 3rd time EVER I launched the car I think you should definately look into a switch or button tho. The n2o is not needed in 1st gear for you period. n2o + 1st gear FWD without slicks =

 

I'v raced a couple G35's on the frwy and can hang with them but I cant pull them. I'm sure I'd get dusted off the line but on the highway is where my top end shines.

 

G35's<<<350z speed wise. Most G35's are auto + they weigh 300-400 lbs more than the Z. Not to mention they have 10 less hp. My close friend just got an auto G35, and I think my H22 CL would have gave him a great run.

 

The 10 less horsepower thing is debatable. Dyno runs and track times show the engines are tuned almost to the same horsepower rating. It's just good marketed to have different horsepower rating for different models of same engine.

 

Debatable it is, but 10 less HP it has. Although it's the exact same engine, They have a more restrictive exhaust I believe, which is why they rate them @ 10 less. And their track times if anything would make you more of a believer in them having less power. Best stock 6mt Z times are around mid/high 13, best 6mt G times are low 14's. The 10 hp isn't what hurts them tho, it's the extra weight.

 

I totally disagree with this.

Yes, while they build the wonderful NA NSX, the shit is still $90K(!) and still slow in comparison.

How is FWD efficent? Has no traction for a launch, less power to the ground, handles like SHIT etc. The only thing is that it's cheap and gets ok traction in the rain.

While it's great that the V6 gets better gas mileage, most luxury car buyers could care less. They want the car to move. Look at the ratio of GS/LS/E class to RLs on the road. 1000000000 to 1. The new RL is a pitiful attempt to get back in the market. It's too expensive for what it is (peolple would rather go buy the Lexus/Merc for that kinda dough), still not that fast/great even with the AWD, and is ugly as shit (looks like an Accord had sex with the old RL).

They are going to have to stfu and start making some real cars or they will end up a figment of us old peoples imaginations.

The S2000 is the only great car they have made in the last decade IMO. Think about what it is too: great looks, great handling, RWD, powerful motor.

 

Haha, he's known for not being able to drive his car. My friend Maricio is the one that can drive that car. He wanted to run you with the rsx, but Hector (owner of the rsx) wouldn't let him. Hector still doesn't know how to launch the car, or run it at GMR.

 

Everyone knows 350z's are fast, but are extremely hyped up, for a price of a new one, I'd rather pick up a 10yr old nsx. Way better car for the $$$, and is a natural bred race car, which seems to be the whole hype around the 350z, plus you get way more looks in an nsx, and not to mention faster than a 350. Around here every rich kid has one, I must see 10-15 per day driving around. My cl gets more looks than a 350, there just played out already.