recommended gas octane

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-08-2003, 04:35 PM
  #1  
Racer
Thread Starter
 
clracer97's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: NY
Age: 37
Posts: 331
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
recommended gas octane

any one know the best octane for our cars so that they will perform at their best?
Old 08-08-2003, 04:38 PM
  #2  
Burning Brakes
 
clstyle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: jersey
Age: 46
Posts: 1,009
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
89 octane

alot of people talk about
if you go any higher it wont do anything
it would actually sacrifice performance

and if u go lower it
would damage your engine
Old 08-08-2003, 04:38 PM
  #3  
Racer
Thread Starter
 
clracer97's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: NY
Age: 37
Posts: 331
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
why wouldnt 93 be better ?
Old 08-08-2003, 04:39 PM
  #4  
Suzuka Master
 
r3mix3r's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 5,203
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
umm actually ur suppose to run 87 octane...
Old 08-08-2003, 04:40 PM
  #5  
Racer
Thread Starter
 
clracer97's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: NY
Age: 37
Posts: 331
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
ok who am i supposed to believe? could someone help me who knows what to use with a good reason why i should use it?
Old 08-08-2003, 05:03 PM
  #6  
Sign: Slippery When Wet
 
Bluesman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Highland Village,TX
Age: 77
Posts: 353
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Don't wast your money on high octain gas. It is for high compresion engines. Ours is not. 2.2 or 3.0. High octain gas requires more pressure be fore it will ignite (burn). If you do not have enough compression all the fuel will not be burned and therefore you will have more deposites in your engine. Carbon on the plugs and valves. Not good.

Low octain in a high compresion engine can cause pre- ignition.
This can result in detonation and will cause diseling ( the engine continues runing after you turn off the ignition).
Old 08-08-2003, 05:45 PM
  #7  
Racer
 
SickAcura's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Landenberg PA/High Point NC
Age: 39
Posts: 456
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
your suppost to use 87 octane thats what i have been using ever since ive had my car and it runs the smoothest on 87 octane trust a brotha
Old 08-08-2003, 06:05 PM
  #8  
Racer
Thread Starter
 
clracer97's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: NY
Age: 37
Posts: 331
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
so you guys would reccomend 89 for our cars?
Old 08-08-2003, 06:50 PM
  #9  
Pit Stop?
 
Minch00's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Orlando FL
Age: 38
Posts: 13,526
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally posted by clracer97
so you guys would reccomend 89 for our cars?

No, we would recommend 87! No reason to pay the extra 10 cents a gallon....the car was designed to run on 87. Anything higher could run the risk of messing something up.
Old 08-08-2003, 06:58 PM
  #10  
Racer
 
matteichenfels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Age: 45
Posts: 440
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
87
Old 08-08-2003, 07:23 PM
  #11  
Instructor
 
truraysa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: hawaii
Posts: 223
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I say 87, i tried running 100 octane and my car felt super slow and had weird smell. same result with 92 octane running 87 ever since. i think car and drive did a article on it but it was a accord v6 (same engine as 3.0cl's) and 87 produced more power and better milage. you can always will your tank with 92 and find out for your self
Old 08-09-2003, 10:28 AM
  #12  
Sign: Slippery When Wet
 
Bluesman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Highland Village,TX
Age: 77
Posts: 353
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally posted by clracer97
so you guys would reccomend 89 for our cars?

Are you actually reading the answers to your question? :wackit:
Old 08-09-2003, 10:31 AM
  #13  
Burning Brakes
 
clstyle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: jersey
Age: 46
Posts: 1,009
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
so its


EIGHTY SEVEN!
in othere words

87 octane
Old 08-09-2003, 07:49 PM
  #14  
Racer
 
infamouz trunkz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: houston tx
Age: 41
Posts: 480
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
i dunno cuz i hav the 97 2.2 wit 90k n when i run wit 87 its kind of weak..but wit the supreme it runs better n smoother...
Old 08-09-2003, 08:17 PM
  #15  
teh Senior Instigator
 
CLpower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Huntington Beach, CA -> Ashburn, VA -> Raleigh, NC -> Walnut Creek, CA
Age: 42
Posts: 44,094
Received 978 Likes on 330 Posts
87 on a 3.0, anything else you'll lose power
Old 08-10-2003, 01:26 AM
  #16  
ENGAGE MY VTEC BABY!!!!!!
 
97Acura3.0CL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Tracy, Ca
Age: 44
Posts: 6,975
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
i run 92 octane at chevron, i use 92 for my vafc and adjusting the fuel. i know but i think my car runs a little better on 92

also has anyone tried that new fuel injector cleaner for the car, i just did it the take before last and my car has been feeling more pulling and faster and smoother. i recommend this to anyone its like 5something at kregans

anyone else run at 92 octane?
Old 08-10-2003, 07:45 AM
  #17  
DOOKS of hazard!!!!
 
d5c5b's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: crystal beach, florida
Age: 41
Posts: 2,019
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
i notice tranny shifted better when i first started using 92 on my 2.2....so now i just keep using 92, maybe next time i get gas ill go back to the lower grade and see how it works... also, why would my tranny shift smoother on higher octane gas? i dont understand that?!...but it does!
Old 08-10-2003, 08:39 AM
  #18  
teh Senior Instigator
 
CLpower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Huntington Beach, CA -> Ashburn, VA -> Raleigh, NC -> Walnut Creek, CA
Age: 42
Posts: 44,094
Received 978 Likes on 330 Posts
Originally posted by 97Acura3.0CL
i run 92 octane at chevron, i use 92 for my vafc and adjusting the fuel. i know but i think my car runs a little better on 92

also has anyone tried that new fuel injector cleaner for the car, i just did it the take before last and my car has been feeling more pulling and faster and smoother. i recommend this to anyone its like 5something at kregans

anyone else run at 92 octane?

it's been dyno proven you lose power on anything else then 87. It is a complete waste of money and you are just clogging up your injectors because the car can't burn that octane well enough. I think it was Car and driver that did the test on the v6 accord. They lost about 14 HP running 92 compared to 87.
Old 08-10-2003, 08:40 AM
  #19  
teh Senior Instigator
 
CLpower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Huntington Beach, CA -> Ashburn, VA -> Raleigh, NC -> Walnut Creek, CA
Age: 42
Posts: 44,094
Received 978 Likes on 330 Posts
Originally posted by d5c5b
i notice tranny shifted better when i first started using 92 on my 2.2....so now i just keep using 92, maybe next time i get gas ill go back to the lower grade and see how it works... also, why would my tranny shift smoother on higher octane gas? i dont understand that?!...but it does!

that makes absolutely no sense
Old 08-10-2003, 09:18 AM
  #20  
Racer
Thread Starter
 
clracer97's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: NY
Age: 37
Posts: 331
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
i dont know if this is true but i heard somewhere that using low octane gasoline damages your engine. is this true?
Old 08-10-2003, 09:44 AM
  #21  
teh Senior Instigator
 
CLpower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Huntington Beach, CA -> Ashburn, VA -> Raleigh, NC -> Walnut Creek, CA
Age: 42
Posts: 44,094
Received 978 Likes on 330 Posts
Originally posted by clracer97
i dont know if this is true but i heard somewhere that using low octane gasoline damages your engine. is this true?

no, if you have a motor w/ high compression that really needs the higher octane it's not good and will cause knock. But otherwise you need to use what your car is recommended for otherwise you will run into problems in the long run. For ex. running anything higher on our car then 87 will cause buildup because it can't be burned fast enough.
Old 08-10-2003, 10:05 AM
  #22  
Racer
 
matteichenfels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Age: 45
Posts: 440
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
....It says right on the window sticker when you buy it new...87 octane... if i'm not mistaking it also says that in the handbook.
Old 08-10-2003, 11:56 AM
  #23  
Intermediate
 
Light_Speed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Canada
Age: 42
Posts: 49
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
it says to use 87 octane in the handbook
Old 08-10-2003, 07:18 PM
  #24  
Sign: Slippery When Wet
 
Bluesman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Highland Village,TX
Age: 77
Posts: 353
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally posted by Bluesman
Don't wast your money on high octain gas. It is for high compresion engines. Ours is not. 2.2 or 3.0. High octain gas requires more pressure be fore it will ignite (burn). If you do not have enough compression all the fuel will not be burned and therefore you will have more deposites in your engine. Carbon on the plugs and valves. Not good.

Low octain in a high compresion engine can cause pre- ignition.
This can result in detonation and will cause diseling ( the engine continues runing after you turn off the ignition).
What is wrong with you people are you unable to read and comprehind ( understand)???????
Old 08-11-2003, 12:37 AM
  #25  
roomate has a CL too
 
ju5tchi11in's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Los Angeles, CA Albany, NY
Age: 41
Posts: 3,862
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
do those fuel system cleaners that you pour into your gas tank clear the build up from those higher octane gasses?
Old 08-11-2003, 07:05 AM
  #26  
Cruisin'
 
cabbages_baby's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: charleston, sc
Posts: 22
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
damn ive been using 89 octane...guess ill switch to 87 now. should i wait till my tank is almost empty to switch or can i go ahead and refill my tank now, which is half-full with 89? or does it matter?
Old 08-11-2003, 07:25 AM
  #27  
teh Senior Instigator
 
CLpower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Huntington Beach, CA -> Ashburn, VA -> Raleigh, NC -> Walnut Creek, CA
Age: 42
Posts: 44,094
Received 978 Likes on 330 Posts
cabbage, it doesn't matter
Old 08-11-2003, 08:04 AM
  #28  
JCL
3rd Gear
 
JCL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: VA
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Read this article....

http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/...emiumgas_x.htm
Old 08-11-2003, 08:39 AM
  #29  
Cruisin'
 
ejammies's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Rockalnd County, NY
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Don't believe anyone but what the manual says to use and that would be 87. A higher octane should only be used if you hear pinging in your engine and even then I would only put it in once every 4 tanks.
Old 08-11-2003, 10:23 AM
  #30  
Suzuka Master
 
ib_jimmy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Dallas
Age: 42
Posts: 5,193
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
i know our car manual and everywhere else on the car recommend 87...but i do feel a different with 93....its seem to be more responsive and smoother.....is that true or am i just getting high of that high octane?

So my question is will high octane in our car run better even if it does cause problems in the future?
Old 08-11-2003, 10:38 AM
  #31  
teh Senior Instigator
 
CLpower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Huntington Beach, CA -> Ashburn, VA -> Raleigh, NC -> Walnut Creek, CA
Age: 42
Posts: 44,094
Received 978 Likes on 330 Posts
Originally posted by ib_jimmy


So my question is will high octane in our car run better even if it does cause problems in the future?

no, you have a 3.0 right? As I said, it's been dyno proven that 87 has more power then anything else. If you have a 2.2/.3 I'm not really sure, but I wouldn't waste the money.
Old 08-11-2003, 10:38 AM
  #32  
Cruisin'
 
ejammies's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Rockalnd County, NY
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Actually it will probably run worse. Acura has all the timing down pat for the octaine that the car is supposed to run. I have NEVER ONCE put anything in my car but 87 and I tell you it runs just as smooth as it did in 1997 when it came off the lot. If you think it does good then by all means do whatever floats your boat!
Old 08-11-2003, 10:55 AM
  #33  
Three Wheelin'
 
lowpost's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Oakland...smokin'
Posts: 1,555
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally posted by infamouz trunkz
i dunno cuz i hav the 97 2.2 wit 90k n when i run wit 87 its kind of weak..but wit the supreme it runs better n smoother...
I agree - although it could be psychological. But my car seems to run smoother (not faster) on chevron 92. on 87 my engine feels rougher. It could be the difference in additives (chevron only) and nothing to do with Octane.

ALso 14hp is a LOT to lose from using 92 as opposed to 87. I'm not questioning the C&D test but it may not mean much in real world driving conditions. I know my car really well and I have never felt that loss of power on 92, and I drive my car pretty hard. If anything, I neither gained nor loss hp, but the engine felt smoother.
Old 08-11-2003, 11:04 AM
  #34  
teh Senior Instigator
 
CLpower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Huntington Beach, CA -> Ashburn, VA -> Raleigh, NC -> Walnut Creek, CA
Age: 42
Posts: 44,094
Received 978 Likes on 330 Posts
Originally posted by lowpost
I agree - although it could be psychological. But my car seems to run smoother (not faster) on chevron 92. on 87 my engine feels rougher. It could be the difference in additives (chevron only) and nothing to do with Octane.

ALso 14hp is a LOT to lose from using 92 as opposed to 87. I'm not questioning the C&D test but it may not mean much in real world driving conditions. I know my car really well and I have never felt that loss of power on 92, and I drive my car pretty hard. If anything, I neither gained nor loss hp, but the engine felt smoother.

it's been proven on other dyno runs before too, not just w/ C&D.


Your car physically can NOT burn anything other then 87 fast enough to prevent clogging, and buildup, etc. The car is not set up to run on anything other then 87. ANything else is completely and absolutely pointless and makes you stupid for using it. I don't know how else to get this information into your guys head. BUt hey, if you don't want to listen to me don't worry about it. Go abouts doing what you do
Old 08-11-2003, 12:44 PM
  #35  
Intermediate
 
AcidFire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Denver, CO
Age: 46
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
OK, here is a question for you all.

Does anyone know how altitude pays into all this. Our gas here in Denver, CO goes 85,87,91. I know at lower altitudes it goes 87,89,92 or 93.

Would I be right in running 85?? I have been running 87, but if 85 will work, I would rather save the cash.

Thanks

Ash
Old 08-11-2003, 12:57 PM
  #36  
Evolution
 
Luckyax2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: South Bend, Indiana
Age: 39
Posts: 647
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Ok I got a ? now, since I am running Nitrous I will need higher octane right? The NX kit actually reccomends adding octane booster! So with my VAFC and NX I would need the 92 octane wouldnt I?
Old 08-11-2003, 12:59 PM
  #37  
teh Senior Instigator
 
CLpower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Huntington Beach, CA -> Ashburn, VA -> Raleigh, NC -> Walnut Creek, CA
Age: 42
Posts: 44,094
Received 978 Likes on 330 Posts
Originally posted by Luckyax2
Ok I got a ? now, since I am running Nitrous I will need higher octane right? The NX kit actually reccomends adding octane booster! So with my VAFC and NX I would need the 92 octane wouldnt I?

Yes, when you are going to use the nitrous you need to have 92 in the tank. But when just driving around town i'd use 87
Old 08-11-2003, 01:04 PM
  #38  
Suzuka Master
 
ib_jimmy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Dallas
Age: 42
Posts: 5,193
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
ok my car is low on gas...imma go fill it up with 87 after work. I remember the last time i did that....the engine noise sound lower...like its moving slower.
Old 08-11-2003, 01:58 PM
  #39  
teh Senior Instigator
 
CLpower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Huntington Beach, CA -> Ashburn, VA -> Raleigh, NC -> Walnut Creek, CA
Age: 42
Posts: 44,094
Received 978 Likes on 330 Posts
Originally posted by ib_jimmy
ok my car is low on gas...imma go fill it up with 87 after work. I remember the last time i did that....the engine noise sound lower...like its moving slower.

also try an injector cleaner while you are at it, it's not a great fix, but it'll do for the mean time till you get the professionally done. If you've been running 91-93 for a little while they are most likely pretty clogged w/ build up.
Old 08-11-2003, 05:56 PM
  #40  
Racer
Thread Starter
 
clracer97's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: NY
Age: 37
Posts: 331
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
i guess i should run 87 on my 3.0 although i am still a little shaky since my family uses 93 on all their cars. but if 87 will improve performance on my car and wont cause buildup in the fuel injectors, then i guess i should go with whats better for my car.


Quick Reply: recommended gas octane



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:33 PM.