OMG! Help me. messed up with timing on rear cam pulley?!?!

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Old 03-25-2006, 09:28 PM
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OMG! Help me. messed up with timing on rear cam pulley?!?!

ok, so I was out installing my cams and I was finishing up on the front one, but I wanted to make sure both the camshaft pullies were at #1 TDC before I put the rocker arms back in the front cylinder head. I noticed that the rear camshaft pulley was not at TDC anymore, it was at about 75 degrees instead of the 90 degrees where the mark for TDC was at. I checked to make sure it was there before I started the whole thing and the cam pullies and the crank pulley were all at TDC, maybe 5 degrees off.

So I used a wrench to turn it to TDC, but as soon as I get there it suddently PULLS THE WRENCH all the way over to the firewall. It feels like some sort of spring is turning the camshaft or something, and if I turn it manually past a certin point it pull to whichever side of that point that I'm on. So if I'm left of that point it will pull counter clockwise, and if I am right of the point it will pull clockwise. It's definitely not the timing belt because that is slack as I've got the tensioner held in place.

So here is the situation I am in: both head covers off. Front rocker arm assembly is removed, and front camshaft has been replaced. Distributer is still attached. Timing belt is loose, might as well be removed it's not attached to anything.

what the hell did I do?!?!?

Can I just remove the timing belt and remove the wrench attached to the rear cam pulley and then just turn everything to TDC amd slide the timing belt over?!?!?

PLEASE HELP ME FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!!!
Old 03-25-2006, 11:17 PM
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nevermind figured it out.
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nevermind figured it out.
so? what is it?
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What was it?

How's the performance increase?

Where's the damn video ?
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Originally Posted by ghost_masterCL
nevermind figured it out.


damn that was funny.
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damn that was funny.
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what was it? sounds normal to me. especially if your installing type-s cams cause the lobes are bigger. make sure you put the distributor back to #1 sparkplug before you reinstall it. it should be already cause of the slot in the cam shaft but you could install it 180deg out.
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lol, it was just the valve springs pushing it away from TDC, so I just need to loosen the rocker arm assemly on the rear and then turn everything to TDC then install eth timing belt and make sure it's tight, then tighten back up the rocker arms.
then tdo a valveadjustment. I'm goint todo that now... but damn it's all cold sompared to yesterday
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Originally Posted by ghost_masterCL
lol, it was just the valve springs pushing it away from TDC, so I just need to loosen the rocker arm assemly on the rear and then turn everything to TDC then install eth timing belt and make sure it's tight, then tighten back up the rocker arms.
then tdo a valveadjustment. I'm goint todo that now... but damn it's all cold sompared to yesterday
Those first two posts made me laugh.

Let us know how it feels when you're done bro.
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ok got both the camsin stalled and adjusted the valves on the # 1 cylinder, but I had to go to work, will try to finish up teh valve adjustment tonight after work, and then reinstall all the other plastic covers and shit tommorow.
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Originally Posted by ghost_masterCL
ok got both the camsin stalled and adjusted the valves on the # 1 cylinder, but I had to go to work, will try to finish up teh valve adjustment tonight after work, and then reinstall all the other plastic covers and shit tommorow.
Those plastic covers will take all afternoon! There's only about 9,477,826 bolts in them! Glad to hear you were able to finally get the cams in! I can't wait to check out the finished product.
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Originally Posted by ghost_masterCL
ok got both the camsin stalled and adjusted the valves on the # 1 cylinder, but I had to go to work, will try to finish up teh valve adjustment tonight after work, and then reinstall all the other plastic covers and shit tommorow.
May the force be with you
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Great work grasshopper, where is the DIY with pics?
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hell no DIY, I suggest nobody EVER do this on their own

this job absolutely sucked huger balls!! Never again...

but I finally finished. I got everything back together but I didn't adjust teh valve lash well enough. Most of them are too loose and it's ticking like crazy on me now

that means I have to open up the valve covers again, but at least it won't be as hard as the cam install.

the low end WOT kicks butt now, and the car is quite a bit quicker, but I think I need to raise the vtec engagement becuase at about 70% throttle once vtec kicks in it loses power for a second then kicks back in a bit later.
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Congrats, Eric!
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Nice work, get in there and mic those valves and torque them to spec. You'll be set.
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congrats bro.
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i wish i had type-s cams...............oh wait i do.
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Originally Posted by wilp99
i wish i had type-s cams...............oh wait i do.
u damn pimp
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