need help on system
02-02-2007 | 11:50 PM
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need help on system
ok i bought a Pioneer TS-W251R
so what do i need, a cap? what gauge cable? and what size amp?
im still a
to the car audio world
10"
*Single 4 ohm Subwoofer
* 120 Watts RMS
* 600 Watts Peak
* Frequency Response: 20Hz - 4.5kHz
* Sensitivity: 90dB
* 4 Ohm Impedance
*Single 4 ohm Subwoofer
* 120 Watts RMS
* 600 Watts Peak
* Frequency Response: 20Hz - 4.5kHz
* Sensitivity: 90dB
* 4 Ohm Impedance
im still a
to the car audio world
02-03-2007 | 12:07 AM
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i was just going to buy this box
http://cgi.ebay.com/10-BANDPASS-MDF-...em160079172306
http://cgi.ebay.com/10-BANDPASS-MDF-...em160079172306
02-03-2007 | 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by AznX TL
ok i bought a Pioneer TS-W251R
so what do i need, a cap? what gauge cable? and what size amp?
im still a to the car audio world
so what do i need, a cap? what gauge cable? and what size amp?
im still a
to the car audio world
02-03-2007 | 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by AznX TL
i was just going to buy this box
http://cgi.ebay.com/10-BANDPASS-MDF-...em160079172306
http://cgi.ebay.com/10-BANDPASS-MDF-...em160079172306
02-03-2007 | 12:16 AM
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i think you are mistakin my friend that box will do this sub some justice if it was designed anything like the q logic boxes i heard that sub in one of these q logic boxes and dang i must admit it was louder and cleaner than 2 fosgates in a bandpass enclosure.
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02-03-2007 | 12:25 AM
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yea basically battery u dont need to upgrade for 200 watts thats nothing if ur going 500 or more thats rms btw then you mite think of something like a cap u really only need a stronger battery if you start havin problems otherwise im runnin 500 watts rms wit a 1.5 farad cap and original battery from dealer yea its lasted freakin 8 years i know i should change it out soon but if its workin its workin. 
btw neon is not cool unless your doing some competition stuff.
btw neon is not cool unless your doing some competition stuff.
02-03-2007 | 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by spiderman3098
i think you are mistakin my friend that box will do this sub some justice if it was designed anything like the q logic boxes i heard that sub in one of these q logic boxes and dang i must admit it was louder and cleaner than 2 fosgates in a bandpass enclosure.
02-03-2007 | 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by hornedfrog2000
Bandpass blows.... I know what I am talking about, look it up....
02-03-2007 | 12:30 AM
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should i get something like this instead?
http://cgi.ebay.com/10-inch-SUBWOOFE...em160079173097
http://cgi.ebay.com/10-inch-SUBWOOFE...em160079173097
02-03-2007 | 12:34 AM
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looks good but remember everybody has certain tastes so its better to be able to hear it in the box b4 you purchase but normally u cant go wrong with a sealed unless it turns out to be too small or too big.
But if its too small u can buy this stuff called polyfill or sumthin like dat and it makes the sub think ders a bigger box but if its too big not much u can really do about it
But if its too small u can buy this stuff called polyfill or sumthin like dat and it makes the sub think ders a bigger box but if its too big not much u can really do about it
02-03-2007 | 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by spiderman3098
looks good but remember everybody has certain tastes so its better to be able to hear it in the box b4 you purchase but normally u cant go wrong with a sealed unless it turns out to be too small or too big.
But if its too small u can buy this stuff called polyfill or sumthin like dat and it makes the sub think ders a bigger box but if its too big not much u can really do about it
But if its too small u can buy this stuff called polyfill or sumthin like dat and it makes the sub think ders a bigger box but if its too big not much u can really do about it
02-03-2007 | 12:40 AM
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Sealed Box Volume: 0.70-1.30 cu. ft.
Top Mount Depth: 5-3/8"
Top Mount Depth: 5-3/8"
02-03-2007 | 12:52 AM
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No, thats just the minimum the magnent needs to fit, Just worry about the total volume of the box. Vented/ported boxes are supposed to be 2x as loud but not quite as tight sounding as the sealeds.
02-03-2007 | 01:31 AM
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ahh thanks i found the thread, that helped 1000x more on how to install and im gonna post it just for my reference later 
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=184178
ok now i need help on the amp
would this do or should i keep looking? http://cgi.ebay.com/200-Watt-Power-A...em110087174599
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=184178
ok now i need help on the amp
would this do or should i keep looking? http://cgi.ebay.com/200-Watt-Power-A...em110087174599
02-03-2007 | 01:44 AM
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This amp probably does more like 175x1 @4 ohms http://cgi.ebay.com/Rockford-Fosgate...QQcmdZViewItem The older rockford stuff was bullet proof too.
02-03-2007 | 01:44 AM
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thanks, im trying not to spend more then $175 on this whole setup and so far with just the speakers and the box its at $90
and still cant thank you guys enough for helping me out with this confusion.
and still cant thank you guys enough for helping me out with this confusion.
i guess you could say it was an impulse buy.
02-03-2007 | 01:55 AM
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Definitely gonna be hard to get a decent setup for that much. I spent 325 on my deck, and that was a good price at the time. Brand new it was almost $1000. My component speakers can be found on e-bay for like 600, or 700 dollars, can't remember. I didn't pay that much for them cause I new an authorized dealer for them, but I still need two amps, 1-3 subs (still don't know what route I'm going ) sound deadening, an enclosure (might just fiberglass a custom one for myself). To do all this right it costs money, but you can certainly piece together a nice system for like 500$.
02-03-2007 | 02:02 AM
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if i keep the amp under $80 i think i should be good
would this be good? http://cgi.ebay.com/KICKER-KX150-2-2...em180081442956
do i need a mono or dual channel amp?
would this be good? http://cgi.ebay.com/KICKER-KX150-2-2...em180081442956
do i need a mono or dual channel amp?
02-03-2007 | 11:04 AM
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hmm i found a Alpine MRV-T420 for $80 shipped
so is bridged basically mono?
V12 Amplifier
RMS Power Rating:
Per Channel Into a 4-Ohm Load: 110 watts x 2
Per Channel Into a 2-Ohm Load: 170 watts x 2
Bridged Into a 4-ohm Load: 340 watts x 1
RMS Power Rating:
Per Channel Into a 4-Ohm Load: 110 watts x 2
Per Channel Into a 2-Ohm Load: 170 watts x 2
Bridged Into a 4-ohm Load: 340 watts x 1
02-03-2007 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by AznX TL
hmm i found a Alpine MRV-T420 for $80 shipped
so is bridged basically mono?
so is bridged basically mono?
02-03-2007 | 01:57 PM
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From: ShitsBurgh
Originally Posted by AznX TL
whats the perks of getting a mono over the one that's bridged?
You get more direct power by having it all go to one channel, there's not a lot of difference but the power handling is better mono, you're essentially bridging a 2 channel into a mono anyway, just makes more sense to go mono on bass amps
02-03-2007 | 02:19 PM
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well im gonna take your word for it black and im gonna go for the alpine mono amp for $20 more
Alpine MRD-M501 Mono Amp
V12 Amplifier
RMS Power Rating:
275 watts RMS x 1 at 4 ohms (CEA-2006 Compliant)
550 watts RMS x 1 at 2 ohms
2-Ohm Stable
MOSFET power supply and output stages
STAR Topology: Alpine's unique STAR (Signal Transit for Accurate Response) Circuit PCB design provides a single common ground for all amp sub-blocks, preventing ground interference and minimizing internal noise.
Bass Engine® features:
Low-Pass Digital Filter, 30-200 Hz, with a selectable 12 or 24 dB/octave slope
Variable Subsonic Filter (15-50 Hz in 5 Hz steps)
Parametric EQ Variable From 30-160 Hz, 12 dB
Bass Compensator Enhances Low-End Definition
Top-Mounted Digital Control Center w/ Cover
Preamp Outputs
Time Correction: 0-10 milliseconds in 0.1ms steps
Phase Adjustment: 0-180
Turn-On Delay
Extra-Large Gold-Plated Terminals
13-11/16"W x 2-9/16"H x 10-5/8"D
V12 Amplifier
RMS Power Rating:
275 watts RMS x 1 at 4 ohms (CEA-2006 Compliant)
550 watts RMS x 1 at 2 ohms
2-Ohm Stable
MOSFET power supply and output stages
STAR Topology: Alpine's unique STAR (Signal Transit for Accurate Response) Circuit PCB design provides a single common ground for all amp sub-blocks, preventing ground interference and minimizing internal noise.
Bass Engine® features:
Low-Pass Digital Filter, 30-200 Hz, with a selectable 12 or 24 dB/octave slope
Variable Subsonic Filter (15-50 Hz in 5 Hz steps)
Parametric EQ Variable From 30-160 Hz, 12 dB
Bass Compensator Enhances Low-End Definition
Top-Mounted Digital Control Center w/ Cover
Preamp Outputs
Time Correction: 0-10 milliseconds in 0.1ms steps
Phase Adjustment: 0-180
Turn-On Delay
Extra-Large Gold-Plated Terminals
13-11/16"W x 2-9/16"H x 10-5/8"D
02-03-2007 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by AznX TL
hmm im really considering returning the sub, since now i know i can get better stuff.......
I'd save up a little more, you dont need that much more to put together something you might be happier with. You're not working with much especially if the sub was 200 watt rms or less. Keep us informed on what you decide and if you need any recommendations.
02-03-2007 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Mach30SiR
I think thats the smartest thing. Here is what is going to happen....happens to most people who get into car audio. "Its never enough"
I'd save up a little more, you dont need that much more to put together something you might be happier with. You're not working with much especially if the sub was 200 watt rms or less. Keep us informed on what you decide and if you need any recommendations.
I'd save up a little more, you dont need that much more to put together something you might be happier with. You're not working with much especially if the sub was 200 watt rms or less. Keep us informed on what you decide and if you need any recommendations.
02-03-2007 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by spiderman3098
you wont regret it those alpine amps are pretty good hell there decks they reccomend putting a seperate power line from the battery wit a fuse.
Good choice, my highs amp is gonna be an alpine
