My H22 Writeup
03-02-2007, 01:46 AM
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My H22 Writeup
I finally got it started and i want to explode because of all the information. Ill try to make this DIYish, but honestly if your like me, and dont have much mecanical inclination have a shop do it.
THis writeup is for parts and prices for:
99 Acura 2.3 CL (also for a 98)
Using a JDM H22a OBD1
Parts Needed:
JDM H22a w/ distributor model #TD60 its an internal coil btw
P13 Ecu (a chipped p28 or p72 will work great. if u use the p28 u wont use your egr and u cant control your IAB. but the advantage is you can tune your car.)
OBD2 B to OBD 1 Jumper harness (i have 2 extras $40 & $60 shipped each, PM me..)
Prelude Drivers side Motor Mount
H22 Header
97+ Prelude throttle cable ( i have 1 extra $15 shipped )
97+ Prelude Power steering bracket (the bracket that holds the PS pump to the block)
AC belt, PS Belt both need to be longer by 2-3 inches
What makes our swap harder than 94-97 Accords..
OK our CL distributors are what is called a 'single pickup' this means that sensors are in the engine send information to our ECU's and data is sent with 1 wire to the distributor. Now the H22 doesnt operate this way, each sensor (3 total 2 colors each) so i had to wire 9 wires from my ECU (actually the jumper harness, see the links for the colors and sensors) directly to the dizzy. THat was the hardest part because im not too good with that shit.
Also i think Beaneg6 used the F23 throttle body to plug in the MAP sensor easily..
Another way around this is to use the engine harness that comes with your motor and use all prelude electrical parts.
Also see these links for the other wires that need to be extended, wiring info and other stuff:
http://www.accordinglydone.com/forum...hread.php?t=29
http://importnut.net/h22a_swap.htm
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Prices:
I got a JDM H22a ($950) and i used my stock F23 manual tranny.. (i know flame me for it.. but i want my freeway top speed, and i saved $500 bux)
Bought a new clutch $100 (i didnt buy it ahead of time, stupid me)
Chipped P28 with OBD2 B to OBD1 jumper harness ($275)
Prelude Motor Mount $100 (again buy ahead of time to save $50)
Ebay Header $65
Throttle Cable $12
PS Bracket $20
Belts $18
Oil n filter $20
Coolant $5
Wires n Solder $10
I paid Beaneg6 $500 to install the motor and R1 Motors in San Gabriel $120 to wire up my Dizzy, Injectors, vtec crap. Also u need another $40 to weld up your mid pipe.
If you dont want to worry about a lot of this stuff R 1 Motors charges around $1100 to 1300 for labor and misc crap. talk to Raymond, he is a smart mutherfuker. If you have more detailed questions Beaneg6 can help and i can try. Im not sure if he wants to do anymore after the Dizzy mess i went through.
My final thought......
I GOT DOHC POWER BISHES!!!!
THis writeup is for parts and prices for:
99 Acura 2.3 CL (also for a 98)
Using a JDM H22a OBD1
Parts Needed:
JDM H22a w/ distributor model #TD60 its an internal coil btw
P13 Ecu (a chipped p28 or p72 will work great. if u use the p28 u wont use your egr and u cant control your IAB. but the advantage is you can tune your car.)
OBD2 B to OBD 1 Jumper harness (i have 2 extras $40 & $60 shipped each, PM me..)
Prelude Drivers side Motor Mount
H22 Header
97+ Prelude throttle cable ( i have 1 extra $15 shipped )
97+ Prelude Power steering bracket (the bracket that holds the PS pump to the block)
AC belt, PS Belt both need to be longer by 2-3 inches
What makes our swap harder than 94-97 Accords..
OK our CL distributors are what is called a 'single pickup' this means that sensors are in the engine send information to our ECU's and data is sent with 1 wire to the distributor. Now the H22 doesnt operate this way, each sensor (3 total 2 colors each) so i had to wire 9 wires from my ECU (actually the jumper harness, see the links for the colors and sensors) directly to the dizzy. THat was the hardest part because im not too good with that shit.
Also i think Beaneg6 used the F23 throttle body to plug in the MAP sensor easily..
Another way around this is to use the engine harness that comes with your motor and use all prelude electrical parts.
Also see these links for the other wires that need to be extended, wiring info and other stuff:
http://www.accordinglydone.com/forum...hread.php?t=29
http://importnut.net/h22a_swap.htm
------------------------------------------------------------------
Prices:
I got a JDM H22a ($950) and i used my stock F23 manual tranny.. (i know flame me for it.. but i want my freeway top speed, and i saved $500 bux)
Bought a new clutch $100 (i didnt buy it ahead of time, stupid me)
Chipped P28 with OBD2 B to OBD1 jumper harness ($275)
Prelude Motor Mount $100 (again buy ahead of time to save $50)
Ebay Header $65
Throttle Cable $12
PS Bracket $20
Belts $18
Oil n filter $20
Coolant $5
Wires n Solder $10
I paid Beaneg6 $500 to install the motor and R1 Motors in San Gabriel $120 to wire up my Dizzy, Injectors, vtec crap. Also u need another $40 to weld up your mid pipe.
If you dont want to worry about a lot of this stuff R 1 Motors charges around $1100 to 1300 for labor and misc crap. talk to Raymond, he is a smart mutherfuker. If you have more detailed questions Beaneg6 can help and i can try. Im not sure if he wants to do anymore after the Dizzy mess i went through.
My final thought......
I GOT DOHC POWER BISHES!!!!
03-02-2007, 05:07 AM
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nice... so u went to raymond? he's a cool/funny guy. Glad its running now! Did u get a prelude shifter? If not, go with the pspec or i guess any short shifter... trust me... it'll make ur car feel SOOOO much better!
03-02-2007, 07:31 AM
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Good info- makes me feel like the swap is very doable.
Thanks for the DIY. Maybe it will help the daily posters of people with H22 swap questions out some and save a few repeat thread questions
Thanks for the DIY. Maybe it will help the daily posters of people with H22 swap questions out some and save a few repeat thread questions
03-02-2007, 09:19 AM
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Nice writeup daniel. So you finally got it running? 
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03-02-2007, 09:43 AM
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congrats man! sorry i couldn't reply to your text. my parents are here from FL.
sorry i couldn't reply to your text. my parents are here from FL.KOOL!!
and Daniel..... I WANNA DRIVE!!
03-02-2007, 11:10 AM
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yea the car fired up last night, i was crying tears of joy.. Bean's friend wired up the car almost fine, but i think he had maybe 1 wire wrong on the distributor.
Kevin, i bought a prelude shifter last year, i love thats thing so much..
And pictures will be up tonight when i get my mid pipe welded..
And JR u can drive it this weekend..
THanks Chris , n Chris, kevin, and Euro R Cl, and Supramanag for replying to my PM's and Phone calls.. and Jay thnx for driving me to norwalk a bunch of times..
Kevin, i bought a prelude shifter last year, i love thats thing so much..
And pictures will be up tonight when i get my mid pipe welded..
And JR u can drive it this weekend..
THanks Chris , n Chris, kevin, and Euro R Cl, and Supramanag for replying to my PM's and Phone calls.. and Jay thnx for driving me to norwalk a bunch of times..
03-02-2007, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 972xghost
i dont blame you at all for using the F23 transmission. just let us know how it performs, because i would consider using my F22 or F23 transmission if i ever do a H22 or G23 swap.
03-02-2007, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 972xghost
well i would opt to keep the F trannsmission for better gas mileage. i hate how H22 transmission is geared. in my friends prelude were like at almost 4g's at like 80.
03-02-2007, 01:17 PM
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Sweet deal daniel... man I just thought about it.. If I got a 2.x back 2 years ago, with all of the $$$ ive spent on fixing crap on this 3.0.. I coulda easily done a h22 swap by now 
Are you still going to use the magnamuff exhaust for now?
Are you still going to use the magnamuff exhaust for now?
03-02-2007, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by PimpCL23
they came down!??!?!
KOOL!!
and Daniel..... I WANNA DRIVE!!
KOOL!!
and Daniel..... I WANNA DRIVE!!
03-02-2007, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 972xghost
well i would opt to keep the F trannsmission for better gas mileage. i hate how H22 transmission is geared. in my friends prelude were like at almost 4g's at like 80.
03-02-2007, 05:07 PM
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Dude i already have my 1st set of problems. . lol its only been 20 mins of driving!! hahahaha
ok so i have a CEL and vtec doesnt engage.. and the header gasget is off.. yey!
ok so i have a CEL and vtec doesnt engage.. and the header gasget is off.. yey!
03-03-2007, 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 972xghost
really i could have sworn it was higher than that. ill have to check again next time my freind with the lude comes home from school.
Sucks to hear about the problems already. Nice to hear that it's up and running though. What code is being thrown?
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maybe the CEL is due to the smog/emissions stuff... thats what happened when i switched to my USDM p13. CEL due to o2 sensors/smog/emissions and my Vtec didn't work... but everything works fine on my JDM p13. I know... this prolly doesn't help. but Good luck! let raymond check it out maybe.
03-03-2007, 10:42 AM
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i chipped my P28 not to have the emmisions crap affect the performance.
I think it because we used the wrong header gasget and all the fumes are coming out of
the head directly.
Oh and last night it was running great, but whe i parked it my fuel injectors were spraying all over the place.. so i think thats why vtec is acting funny.. so i guess good news.. lol
I think it because we used the wrong header gasget and all the fumes are coming out of
the head directly.
Oh and last night it was running great, but whe i parked it my fuel injectors were spraying all over the place.. so i think thats why vtec is acting funny.. so i guess good news.. lol
03-03-2007, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by asianspec
haha so how's your misfiring system going.
but holy crap that thing takes off!
03-03-2007, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Palayah8ta
lol after i fix the injectors and header my car will be back to 100%,
but holy crap that thing takes off!
but holy crap that thing takes off!
H22 >
03-04-2007, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Palayah8ta
so monday i get my injector seals replaced and my headers fixed again.. then ill be getting speeding tickets in no time..