Looking for more info on Legend Caliper swap.
#1
Looking for more info on Legend Caliper swap.
as it turns out, i have 3 sets of typeII caliper's laying around.
seeing as i need to rotors all around, i think one of them sets is gonna get put on the CL.
I'm trying to find more info on this swap, and can't for some reason. can someone point me towards info please!
my main question is, which rotors do i need to order, and do i use Legend pads with the calipers?
seeing as i need to rotors all around, i think one of them sets is gonna get put on the CL.
I'm trying to find more info on this swap, and can't for some reason. can someone point me towards info please!
my main question is, which rotors do i need to order, and do i use Legend pads with the calipers?
#3
thanx dude, guess i get a brake upgrade tomorrow. too bad i'm only getting crappy oem replacement parts. i can't afford performance parts for the CL. but hey, its a improvement atleast.
I guess i could throw in my spare EBC yellow pads but i think i'll just end up ruining them.
I guess i could throw in my spare EBC yellow pads but i think i'll just end up ruining them.
#7
reason i asked was bc i was gonna take a few pics, is all.
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#9
u might also need a different calpiber bracket for the cl. i forgot which ones u need but if u have a 3.0 i believe it should bolt right up. but im not completely sure. otherwise u gotta grab them off another car. i think the brackets come off ludes as well. id have to read up on it again.
#10
https://acurazine.com/forums/1g-cl-diy-faq-74/dual-piston-caliper-upgrade-diy-685351/
here you go alperovich...good luck.....all info is there with pics.....good luck and pm me if you need any help....
here you go alperovich...good luck.....all info is there with pics.....good luck and pm me if you need any help....
#11
u might also need a different calpiber bracket for the cl. i forgot which ones u need but if u have a 3.0 i believe it should bolt right up. but im not completely sure. otherwise u gotta grab them off another car. i think the brackets come off ludes as well. id have to read up on it again.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=685351
here you go alperovich...good luck.....all info is there with pics.....good luck and pm me if you need any help....
here you go alperovich...good luck.....all info is there with pics.....good luck and pm me if you need any help....
guess not, i looked thru the DIY, its okay, maybe i'll write one up using my pics. anyways, time to go and finish the otherside, its getting dark.
#13
/\ nice1.
here's it all installed up.
i did screw one thing up and that's follow the R and L markings on the typeII caliper's. for installation on the CL, they are reversed. I'm gonna have to take them off tomorrow morning and swap and rebleed everything. oh well, i need to install rear rotors anyways.
and ofcourse the Real Legend which gave up its caliper's (althou i had removed them long ago to take the pads for my other Legend)
That said, i really can't give a real answer on how they feel, the caliper's still need to be rebleed as the pedal still falls to the floor.
as far as how difficult of a job, its pretty much as straight forward of a swap as replacing OEM components. good stuff!
here's it all installed up.
i did screw one thing up and that's follow the R and L markings on the typeII caliper's. for installation on the CL, they are reversed. I'm gonna have to take them off tomorrow morning and swap and rebleed everything. oh well, i need to install rear rotors anyways.
and ofcourse the Real Legend which gave up its caliper's (althou i had removed them long ago to take the pads for my other Legend)
That said, i really can't give a real answer on how they feel, the caliper's still need to be rebleed as the pedal still falls to the floor.
as far as how difficult of a job, its pretty much as straight forward of a swap as replacing OEM components. good stuff!
#15
i put my baby into a wall in KY this summer coming back from the National Acura Legend Meet (NALM'08) in Chattanooga, TN.
doesn't look too bad but the front suspension is toast (mainly drivers side) enkie wheel destroyed, the body and frame split along the driver's front frame rail and the whole frame twisted, driver door doesn't close straight, sunroof and trunk lid don't either. my seat bolts don't line up any more either, and it ripped the bolts out when i hit the wall.
I miss her, but i got a new coupe, i can't wait to mess with, she should be rolling in the spring
doesn't look too bad but the front suspension is toast (mainly drivers side) enkie wheel destroyed, the body and frame split along the driver's front frame rail and the whole frame twisted, driver door doesn't close straight, sunroof and trunk lid don't either. my seat bolts don't line up any more either, and it ripped the bolts out when i hit the wall.
I miss her, but i got a new coupe, i can't wait to mess with, she should be rolling in the spring
Last edited by Alperovich; 12-15-2008 at 05:26 PM.
#16
UPDATE!!:
Soo, i decided to stick around outside in the cold and dark, and swap caliper's and re-bleed everything.
i have to say, initial response is WOW. front end grabs like no business. wow. its really good. what an improvement.
HIGHLY recommend the swap for anyone, its simple and easy to do. GOOD LUCK finding a set of these caliper's. I know alot of Legend owner's that would love get their hands a set of the typeII caliper's too. IMHO they made much more of a difference on the CL then they do on a Legend, the TypeI caliper's on a LEgend would also fit a CL but they are single piston, rotor would be the same, NSX caliper's would fit too.
Soo, i decided to stick around outside in the cold and dark, and swap caliper's and re-bleed everything.
i have to say, initial response is WOW. front end grabs like no business. wow. its really good. what an improvement.
HIGHLY recommend the swap for anyone, its simple and easy to do. GOOD LUCK finding a set of these caliper's. I know alot of Legend owner's that would love get their hands a set of the typeII caliper's too. IMHO they made much more of a difference on the CL then they do on a Legend, the TypeI caliper's on a LEgend would also fit a CL but they are single piston, rotor would be the same, NSX caliper's would fit too.
#17
UPDATE!!:
Soo, i decided to stick around outside in the cold and dark, and swap caliper's and re-bleed everything.
i have to say, initial response is WOW. front end grabs like no business. wow. its really good. what an improvement.
HIGHLY recommend the swap for anyone, its simple and easy to do. GOOD LUCK finding a set of these caliper's. I know alot of Legend owner's that would love get their hands a set of the typeII caliper's too. IMHO they made much more of a difference on the CL then they do on a Legend, the TypeI caliper's on a LEgend would also fit a CL but they are single piston, rotor would be the same, NSX caliper's would fit too.
Soo, i decided to stick around outside in the cold and dark, and swap caliper's and re-bleed everything.
i have to say, initial response is WOW. front end grabs like no business. wow. its really good. what an improvement.
HIGHLY recommend the swap for anyone, its simple and easy to do. GOOD LUCK finding a set of these caliper's. I know alot of Legend owner's that would love get their hands a set of the typeII caliper's too. IMHO they made much more of a difference on the CL then they do on a Legend, the TypeI caliper's on a LEgend would also fit a CL but they are single piston, rotor would be the same, NSX caliper's would fit too.
#18
it wasn't that i had lack of brake, infact i found it pretty good last year when the rotor's were in good shape with new pads but after the car sat around all year, they were ruined and had very poor performance, lots of fade and it was shredding my pads, now its MUCH better, all i gotta do now is the rear rotors. didn't have time for it today but it should be warmer on Wednesday, i'll take care of it then.
#19
UPDATE!!:
Soo, i decided to stick around outside in the cold and dark, and swap caliper's and re-bleed everything.
i have to say, initial response is WOW. front end grabs like no business. wow. its really good. what an improvement.
HIGHLY recommend the swap for anyone, its simple and easy to do. GOOD LUCK finding a set of these caliper's. I know alot of Legend owner's that would love get their hands a set of the typeII caliper's too. IMHO they made much more of a difference on the CL then they do on a Legend, the TypeI caliper's on a LEgend would also fit a CL but they are single piston, rotor would be the same, NSX caliper's would fit too.
Soo, i decided to stick around outside in the cold and dark, and swap caliper's and re-bleed everything.
i have to say, initial response is WOW. front end grabs like no business. wow. its really good. what an improvement.
HIGHLY recommend the swap for anyone, its simple and easy to do. GOOD LUCK finding a set of these caliper's. I know alot of Legend owner's that would love get their hands a set of the typeII caliper's too. IMHO they made much more of a difference on the CL then they do on a Legend, the TypeI caliper's on a LEgend would also fit a CL but they are single piston, rotor would be the same, NSX caliper's would fit too.
#20
that's not too bad. I'm glad I didn't have to buy a set to use, and both my Legend's have typeII caliper's already.
it wasn't that i had lack of brake, infact i found it pretty good last year when the rotor's were in good shape with new pads but after the car sat around all year, they were ruined and had very poor performance, lots of fade and it was shredding my pads, now its MUCH better, all i gotta do now is the rear rotors. didn't have time for it today but it should be warmer on Wednesday, i'll take care of it then.
it wasn't that i had lack of brake, infact i found it pretty good last year when the rotor's were in good shape with new pads but after the car sat around all year, they were ruined and had very poor performance, lots of fade and it was shredding my pads, now its MUCH better, all i gotta do now is the rear rotors. didn't have time for it today but it should be warmer on Wednesday, i'll take care of it then.
i really need a rotor that will last for 2 years or so.
#21
pads wise, i've been running EBC yellow's and they are amazing set of pads, track and street.
#22
NP, let me know when you are doing it, if you get stuck or w/e. i took a bunch of pics of the process, which i was gonna put a DIY together but seeing as oneis already written, i might hold off. so if u need help LMK.
#24
Hi aplerovich....congrate on the install.....if you would have read the DIY you would have avoided the bleeding issue....in my DIY I had specifically mentioned to watch out for the "R" and the "L" markings and to switich these....ah well if everthing is working well then good....and definately the best upgrade ever for your 2.3 CL's......good job.
would highly recommend all you cats to get do this upgrade................
Later
Javed
would highly recommend all you cats to get do this upgrade................
Later
Javed
#25
also use the recommeded site to purchase all the stuff..............trust me I had invested a considerable amount of time researching to find the cheapest deal and for the core returns, they will take your single piston calipers just call them and confirm this.....
Later Cats........
Later Cats........
#26
Hi aplerovich....congrate on the install.....if you would have read the DIY you would have avoided the bleeding issue....in my DIY I had specifically mentioned to watch out for the "R" and the "L" markings and to switich these....ah well if everthing is working well then good....and definately the best upgrade ever for your 2.3 CL's......good job.
would highly recommend all you cats to get do this upgrade................
Later
Javed
would highly recommend all you cats to get do this upgrade................
Later
Javed
will do, i'll get back to on it when its ready then.
#28
I've done this same swap using legend brackets & pads with the 3.0 rotors. I wonder though, if using 3.0 pads with the 23T brackets would be better.
I say this because if you notice there is about a 1/2 inch gap between the bottom of the pad and the center of the rotor. I would assume that using a 3.0 pad or the prelude pad would cover this gap and take full advantage of the extra friction surface area that the larger rotor provides (ie. match the pad to the rotor).
I don't know for sure, but maybe someone with the 3.0 who has done the swap can verify.
I say this because if you notice there is about a 1/2 inch gap between the bottom of the pad and the center of the rotor. I would assume that using a 3.0 pad or the prelude pad would cover this gap and take full advantage of the extra friction surface area that the larger rotor provides (ie. match the pad to the rotor).
I don't know for sure, but maybe someone with the 3.0 who has done the swap can verify.
#29
I've done this same swap using legend brackets & pads with the 3.0 rotors. I wonder though, if using 3.0 pads with the 23T brackets would be better.
I say this because if you notice there is about a 1/2 inch gap between the bottom of the pad and the center of the rotor. I would assume that using a 3.0 pad or the prelude pad would cover this gap and take full advantage of the extra friction surface area that the larger rotor provides (ie. match the pad to the rotor).
I don't know for sure, but maybe someone with the 3.0 who has done the swap can verify.
I say this because if you notice there is about a 1/2 inch gap between the bottom of the pad and the center of the rotor. I would assume that using a 3.0 pad or the prelude pad would cover this gap and take full advantage of the extra friction surface area that the larger rotor provides (ie. match the pad to the rotor).
I don't know for sure, but maybe someone with the 3.0 who has done the swap can verify.
just my .02$ i guess
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