KYB AGX comments
KYB AGX comments
I have Eibach Prokits on KYB AGX's. First of all, I don't see how Eibach can claim that these springs work fine on stock shocks. The spring rate is noticeably higher than stock... so high that I don't see how the OEM shocks could ever cope with it.
Second, I've had this whole setup with the AGX's in their middle position all around. Dampening is just fine over large bumps in a straight line, but throw smaller bumps in a row or bumpy corners into the equation & the car starts bucking. It would porpoise really badly on bumpy onramps. I had thought it was the soft-sidewalled Continental CH95 (front)/Michelin MXV4 (rear) tires I had on the car, but there's no way the car could be bouncing that severely from just the tires.
So, I set everything to full stiff this morning. While the ride is harsher, it feels much better overall because you don't get that ricer bounce anymore. This kinda means that the AGX's aren't adjustable with the Prokits if you have to run them at full stiff.
I'm assuming that you could run lower settings with the AGX with the Sportline springs because even though they're a bit lower, the spring rates are softer. Anybody have any similar experiences?
Second, I've had this whole setup with the AGX's in their middle position all around. Dampening is just fine over large bumps in a straight line, but throw smaller bumps in a row or bumpy corners into the equation & the car starts bucking. It would porpoise really badly on bumpy onramps. I had thought it was the soft-sidewalled Continental CH95 (front)/Michelin MXV4 (rear) tires I had on the car, but there's no way the car could be bouncing that severely from just the tires.
So, I set everything to full stiff this morning. While the ride is harsher, it feels much better overall because you don't get that ricer bounce anymore. This kinda means that the AGX's aren't adjustable with the Prokits if you have to run them at full stiff.
I'm assuming that you could run lower settings with the AGX with the Sportline springs because even though they're a bit lower, the spring rates are softer. Anybody have any similar experiences?
It's nowhere near as comfortable as stock, but it handles great. Doesn't have that super-slammed look, but the performance is well worth it.
You know how the crappy stock tires howl under any kind of cornering? Well, that doesn't happen anymore... can't wait to throw a decent set of shoes on there.
You know how the crappy stock tires howl under any kind of cornering? Well, that doesn't happen anymore... can't wait to throw a decent set of shoes on there.
Ughhhhh, na na na na... you're right, I just found this at Tire Rack:
Pro-Kit spring sets typically lower vehicles about .75" to 1.25" and increase the spring rate just enough to provide an enthusiast's balance between ride comfort and handling.
Sportline spring sets typically provide increased vehicle lowering (as low as Eibach suspension engineers say you can realistically go on the street) of about 1.5" to 2.0" and further increase the spring rate to improve handling and help prevent the car from "bottoming out" over bumps and rough pavement. The Sportline spring set's goal is to make the car as low as possible.
Doh!
Pro-Kit spring sets typically lower vehicles about .75" to 1.25" and increase the spring rate just enough to provide an enthusiast's balance between ride comfort and handling.
Sportline spring sets typically provide increased vehicle lowering (as low as Eibach suspension engineers say you can realistically go on the street) of about 1.5" to 2.0" and further increase the spring rate to improve handling and help prevent the car from "bottoming out" over bumps and rough pavement. The Sportline spring set's goal is to make the car as low as possible.
Doh!
When I just had springs and shocks....I ran 3/6 or 3/7 (front/rear)
This setup was fairly balanced, responsive.
Then I beefed the rear sway bar (Shadetree mechanic style) and this caused a lot of oversteer so i increased the front shock to 4 and kept the rear at 6 to keep the car neutral.
Next I installed the front and rear Susp. Tech. sway bars which are tuned for a bit if understeer so I adjusted the shocks to 3/7
which is fairly neutral, very responsive, and handles like a dream.
But now I drive in some areas with rough roads so I put the shocks on 1/3 or 1/2 for comfort.....this setup is a bit slower in response but damped enough IMO.
WHO SAYS YOU DON"T NEED ADJUSTABLES??????
ADJUSTABLE DAMPERS ARE COOL!!!!
This setup was fairly balanced, responsive.
Then I beefed the rear sway bar (Shadetree mechanic style) and this caused a lot of oversteer so i increased the front shock to 4 and kept the rear at 6 to keep the car neutral.
Next I installed the front and rear Susp. Tech. sway bars which are tuned for a bit if understeer so I adjusted the shocks to 3/7
which is fairly neutral, very responsive, and handles like a dream.
But now I drive in some areas with rough roads so I put the shocks on 1/3 or 1/2 for comfort.....this setup is a bit slower in response but damped enough IMO.
WHO SAYS YOU DON"T NEED ADJUSTABLES??????
ADJUSTABLE DAMPERS ARE COOL!!!!
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P, where did you get the ST bars again & how much did you pay for them? I'm thinking I might run both cars this year... the CL in STS and give the WRX a break from SM. I've never had an STS-able car before (previous car was a 2.5RS, but I had Sparco Evo seats, so that bumped me into DSP) & I'd like to try it.
lo-rider...
www.shox.com
www.nopi.com
they have em pretty cheap.
look for the 97 accord sway bars.
I HIGHLY recommend these. The work well...steering response is fast.
Install is a piece of cake. Just make sure you don't over tighten the endlinks.
www.shox.com
www.nopi.com
they have em pretty cheap.
look for the 97 accord sway bars.
I HIGHLY recommend these. The work well...steering response is fast.
Install is a piece of cake. Just make sure you don't over tighten the endlinks.
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