There is finally a 2nd gen member selling his turbo kit for the CLS 6 speed for $6,000. Damn good price considering the work that went behind it. Should I go for drag, or grip? Now I'm considering going back to my old ways... I honestly dont think I can build a reliable turbo'd track car that can handle 7k revs all day without dumping another large amount of money in R&D. So it'd have to be one way or the other. I had planned for building a strong NA engine for grip. Hell, I dont even know if this kit will fit. I'm just wondering what you guys would like to see. Most likely I'll talk to my friends and see what they have to say and base my answer on that.

 

NA is pretty sweet, but pretty $ to get same results with a turbo. why not turbo and grip?

 

Too much power in a FWD = understeer in quick turns, regardless how much/well you tune your suspension. 300whp is pretty much the limit for grip in a FWD platform.

 

go drag and then go out and spank the shit out of some ricers

 

Na!!!

 

i would def do it
if i had the money

 

Here are some shots of that turbo installed in the car..





I'm not sure if it will fit. It's a really clean kit though. If no one said anything, it could pass as a turbo built by a manufacturer.

Definitley would have some serious straightline power. Just depends on what direction you want to take your car.

 

strait line. your car would be insanely fast!

 

na man, build it n/a. good luck with whatever you do

 

That'd be sick if you go the $$

 

thats just wow man, i dunno what i would do..

 

stay N/A, you will be paying more when you keep on breaking axles.

 

It would be really badass to boost that motor and have a first gen that's actually fast, even if it was mostly for straight line driving. That being said, it sounds like a ton of work if you plan on building the motor for boost and a bunch of fabrication is needed to fit in the turbo.
What are the specs on that turbo? Is it a good fit for your motor? What all does the kit include for $6000?

 

in that case cocoa, NA ftw. i'm a huge fan of grip and i love how it feels when you hug a corner so get that to 300WHP and grip all the way

 

how much power are you pushing now?

 

considering that you are already having traction issues being NA, I'd say that any more power woudl just be a waste, for either straight line or course driving. With the turbo you'd be making so much power you would lose traction at anything under 100 mph at WOT.

keep the spray... stay NA.

 

The kit is in the Black Market if you guys want to see the spces. It pushes 374whp on his engine.

I honestly feel I can hit those numbers tuned on race gas with my 125 shot already. Thats why I debate this. Cause I can have the nitrous for straight line fun, and keep my close to 300whp motor for grip. But if I were to go with the kit, there would be no way of rotating this car during hard cornering with all that power.

 

I spoke with my 2 best friends whose opinions I respect. And of course one said go for it, and the other said dont, lol. You SoCal guys knowm I'm talking about. It shaneal and Mauricio, the evo guys.

 

https://acurazine.com/forums/car-parts-sale-361/sold-sale-complete-turbo-kit-6-speed-cl-355300/

i thought he was trying to sell everything all together

 

if mauricio says no then he's only saying that because now he has to do more stuff to his evo to beat you now. lol

 

Thats the thing, I dont even know if it'll fit in my engine bay. The damn hood doesnt even close all the way with this swap. On top of that, The dimensions of our engine bay are slightly different which could cause an issue if they built the kit with the measurments of a 2nd gen platform. The tubing might not line up correctly, etc...Having to buy this only to find out I have to redo piping would not make it a cost effective decision as oppose to doing it myself.

 

He is.

 

Naw, Mauricio says no because of the affects it will have for grip. He doesnt care for straight line racing.

Shaneal said go for it.

 

Kind of a tough situation.. Drag is cool and all but, personally, I would prefer to take turns and make my way through the pack. What about possibly downsizing to a different turbo size where boost would come at just the right time in every gear for a track setup? I think the main problem would be getting the power to the ground and finding a way to eliminate excess amounts of wheel spin/hop.

You could also go the N/A route and see what this motor can really do.. In terms of realibility, I don't see you having too many problems. Seeing as how you've mentioned how you intend to prep the chassis/engine, I believe that NA would be a force to be reckoned with. Reworked internals, lighted crankshaft, and some agressive cams to turn some RPM.. The sound alone from the motor would give some people goose bumps..

Just my

Also, through my discusion via pm with allmotor his initial thoughts were that the plumbing might be different.

 

i wonder if his turbo suffers a big turbo lag?

 

dood... ur spanking EVOs! what are u trying to race with a turbo?? a space shuttle?

 

Nothing beats the sound of a turbo spooling up and especially hearing that tial blow off. You are going to need to get some good sticky tires though, I had a hard time keeping tracktion on my last car after a few heavy modifications and it was all wheel drive.
You are correct on the fact that it is going to be very expensive. You will break more parts, maintenence will be a bitch since turbos tend to malfunction with the slightest debris, and you will need to spend some serious money on tires and suspension just to get the front to hook up. Also dont forget a better fuel system, and the proper engine managment. It's extremly fun but it comes at a high price.

 

hey why not...lol

 

This was stated by allmotor_2000 himself. One of the original developers in the design I believe.

"The turbo was different (T3/T4 hybrid vs. GT35R - BlueCL6S did some good work in matching the best turbo for the breathing characteristics of the J32A2). In addition, the manifold was a little different. 3" downpipe vs. 2.5". Also, the merge on the exhaust manifold was designed such that between 4K - 8K RPMs the wavelength of the exhaust pulses would not cause a hot-spot where the 2:1 (after both 3:1 merges occur and when it combines into one inlet into the turbine) - the latter proved significantly helpful in preventing detonation at 6-7psi.... the old kit needed 4-5 degrees of timing retard. The new kit ran run timing on 91-octane. Lastly, the IC inlet and outlet were designed differently to minimize temperature increases... this was pure chemistry and physics (PV=nRT and Boyle's Law)."

I truely believe if I were to go turbo, this would be the kit to buy. And it's seriously a one time deal if you know what i mean. That's why this is really hard for me to decide.

 

That's exactly what i'm afraid of. It's two engine bays with lots of similarities, but different nevertheless.

 

I'll see if I can find the PM.. I saved it somewhere, before the upgrade a while back. I asked BlueCLS6 on his thoughts about fittment.

 

Put it that way, then DOOOOOOOO EEEEEEIIIIIIIIIITTTT

 

Considering the price of the turbo kit I would rather buy a turbo car and keep the cl naturally aspirated, that way you can have both incase one decides to break.

 

im actually curious to see how fast this sucker would be!... yo chris! would u want ur car in the shop for antoher 3 months or so!?!?! cause i kno u were hella anxious to get ur car back from the swap u had done

 

this i would do myself.

 

Turbo the fucker.

 

Go turbo and don't look back

 

 

turbo. and hit the 1320 all day long.

 

well.. if u got the time and $$$... knock urself out!


edit:.. ever thought about a super charger?