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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 03:08 PM
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Hey, i really need some help with!!!

Hi everybody, i got a Q? i want to buy new wheels for my CL3.0 and i want to be sure that this spec fit on my car, thx so much!!!!!

Rim Information
Brand: Sport Max

Number of Bolts: 4

Material: Alloy

Width: 7J

Bolt Pattern: 4-114.3

Structure: One Piece

Diameter: 17 inches

Offset: 40

Part Number (MPN): 96277083
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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 03:11 PM
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The bolt pattern looks like it fits. I don't know what an offset is tho..
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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by GhettoNinja06
The bolt pattern looks like it fits. I don't know what an offset is tho..
Atleast he read the NooB guide to a degree?

Heres a list thats in the NOOB guide, like most other things, this is a beneficial thread to look at.

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Lug size is 4x114.3
Rim Offsets: (Thanks hybrdnrg)
195/50/16 - 23.7" diameter (35-45mm offset required)
205/45/16 - 23.3" diameter (35-45mm offset required)
205/50/16 - 24.1" diameter (35-45mm offset required)
215/45/16 - 23.6" diameter (38-45mm offset required)
225/40/16 - 23.1" diameter (42-45mm offset required)
225/45/16 - 24" diameter (42-45mm offset required)

205/40/17 - 23.5" diameter (35-45mm offset required)
205/45/17 - 24.3" diameter (38-45mm offset required)
205/50/17 - 25.1" diameter (38-45mm offset required)
215/40/17 - 23.8" diameter (38-45mm offset required)
215/45/17 - 24.6" diameter (40-45mm offset required)
225/40/17 - 24.1" diameter (42-45mm offset required)
225/45/17 - 25" diameter (42-45mm offset required)

215/35/18 - 23.9" diameter (38-45mm offset required)
215/40/18 - 24.8" diameter (40-45mm offset required)
225/35/18 - 24.2" diameter (42-45mm offset required)
225/40/18 - 25.1" diameter (42-45mm offset required)

215/35/19 - 24.9" diameter (42-45mm offset required)
225/35/19 - 25.2" diameter (42-45mm offset required)
Are the wheels 17's or is the diameter 17in? that doesnt make any sense..
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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 03:27 PM
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now my Q? is what is the offset???
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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 03:28 PM
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Looks good to me.

The offset of a rim is where the rim meets the hub. It's much easier for me to draw this on paper then to explain it. But looking at a rim, and the way it's divided is like looking at a numerical sequence. It starts in the negatives (ae86's are a great example), and goes up to 60+ offset (I know the s2k's run such a high offset. I'm not entirely sure how high an offset can go as I'm not familiar with domestic offsets.)

The lower the offset, the more the rim is going to stick out.

When people add spacers, what they are doing is, sticking the rim out further by lowering the offset. A rim with a 45mm offset, and 10mm spacers would equate to a 35mm offset.
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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Cocoa
Looks good to me.

The offset of a rim is where the rim meets the hub. It's much easier for me to draw this on paper then to explain it. But looking at a rim, and the way it's divided is like looking at a numerical sequence. It starts in the negatives (ae86's are a great example), and goes up to 60+ offset (I know the s2k's run such a high offset. I'm not entirely sure how high an offset can go as I'm not familiar with domestic offsets.)

The lower the offset, the more the rim is going to stick out.

When people add spacers, what they are doing is, sticking the rim out further by lowering the offset. A rim with a 45mm offset, and 10mm spacers would equate to a 35mm offset.
Thx bro,
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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 03:32 PM
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The problem you run into using the wrong offset, is rim/tire touching the suspension, or touching the fenders. Too low would result in the rim/tire touching the fenders, too high would result in touching the suspension (your coilovers) or even not being able to get it on the hub.
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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Cocoa
The problem you run into using the wrong offset, is rim/tire touching the suspension, or touching the fenders. Too low would result in the rim/tire touching the fenders, too high would result in touching the suspension (your coilovers) or even not being able to get it on the hub.
so with this rims (40 offset) what tires r the best? 45/215 or 40/225??
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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 03:46 PM
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Those will fit, next time check the n00b guide

the main dif between those tire sizes is the thickness of the tire

40 is low profile 45 is a bit higher profile closer to stock thickness
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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 03:48 PM
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When looking at what size tires to get, you should look into the width of the rim. (unless you plan on running a wide rim and streching a tire to make it fit)

In this case, a 7" width rim, 215's is your best bet.
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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 03:51 PM
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yeah, in most cases you're supposed to be keeping the overall diameter of the wheel. Like my 18's for example with tires have the same diameter as my stockes with tires on. All you're essentially doing is increasing the rim size and decreasing the tire wall.

and werd, the 215/45's will be best with 17" wheels with a 7" width.
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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Cocoa
Looks good to me.

The offset of a rim is where the rim meets the hub. It's much easier for me to draw this on paper then to explain it. But looking at a rim, and the way it's divided is like looking at a numerical sequence. It starts in the negatives (ae86's are a great example), and goes up to 60+ offset (I know the s2k's run such a high offset. I'm not entirely sure how high an offset can go as I'm not familiar with domestic offsets.)

The lower the offset, the more the rim is going to stick out.

When people add spacers, what they are doing is, sticking the rim out further by lowering the offset. A rim with a 45mm offset, and 10mm spacers would equate to a 35mm offset.
Ahh! I get it. Thanks Cocoa! That was amazingly clear. I didn't get the other stuff but the bold stuff was clear.
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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 04:39 PM
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As for the other stuff, let me see if I can explain it better.


This is a rim looking at it from above: ___________________

Now picture that you can see through the rim.

Now this is your rim with a zero offset: ______________|________________


This is a rim with a 45mm offset: ________________________|_______

This is a rim with a 35mm offset: ______________________|__________

This is a rim with a -15mm offset: ____________|____________________


This line "|" is where the rim meets the hub. So in a sense, it's like a timeline, or numerical sequence (i'm wording it wrong, I know). It just goes from negative, to zero, to positive numbers.
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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 04:52 PM
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So the reason why cars are going to have different offsets, is because of where their hubs are located. You can put any car on a lift, and measure what offsets you can run without running into problems assuming you're going to leave the fenders stock.

Now, for rims with lips, let's see if you can see what I see based on the lame examples I gave you. If you notice the -15mm offset, you see where the rim meets the hub right? Now picture the spokes of the wheel with that offset. You have so much distance to go from one end of the rim, to where the offset is located. (going from right to left). Because the distance is so great, you can now run a lip (or wider lip) on the rim.

With the 45+ offsets we run, there just isn't any room to make for a lip. I honestly don't know where I'm going with all this. I'm just jumping around with subjects.

Now with a combination of rim width, the right offset, and stretching your tires to fit those specific rims, you can get a lip out of the rim, but I wouldn't recommend that to anyone. Unless you just want to go with show only. (referring to our cars only)
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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 05:12 PM
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i got it, right now im with my stock rims and i fit some 16 225/50 tires and i dont have any problems.

Hey guys thx so much for everything, thx Cocoa!!
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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 09:12 PM
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so spacers on our car would be a dumb idea unless we flared the fenders? bahhh.
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so spacers on our car would be a dumb idea unless we flared the fenders? bahhh.
Yeah or my 5 lug conversion that no one wants
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 02:20 PM
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Here's a pic that covers it all:











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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 02:53 PM
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Great pic, I'm adding that to the n00b guide
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