ok im following the DIY guide to install gauges but ive come accross something. how exactly do you get the face off without removing the needle? im doing this on a 97 3.0 if that helps at all. TIA

 

You have to slide the new gauges over the needles .....Its kind of tricky, just be careful not to break the needles.

 

so wait can you be a little more clear cuz it seem that the hole on the existing face is smaller than the thing it needs to get around. do i just put the new one over the old one?

 

Yeah you jus put the new one ontop of the old one. Im not sure if the old one comes off or not.

 

Either that or i think the needles to pull off you just have to be careful.

 

i dont think they pull off someone on the boards did that and now they dont work
i see how to get it on and its very tricky im trying to be so careful so that i dont break the needle but it seems like you have to be a little rough to get it over the back part of the needle

 

YEAH. The needle wont break at that point. If it were to break it would be on the actual red part of the needle. you BETTER post pics when you finish that!

 

you do NOT take off your needles or the old gauges (i dont even think you can). The new gauges go OVER your existing ones. Be careful and go slow you dont want to break a needle and replace your whole gauge cluster its expensive

 

ya i got them on.... now for putting them back in the car. im installing nippon's old s7 gauges any of you have them? where did you mount the relay? switch to change the color?