has anyone hooked an aftermarket HU to the stock bose system?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-13-2003, 01:29 PM
  #1  
teh Senior Instigator
Thread Starter
 
CLpower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Huntington Beach, CA -> Ashburn, VA -> Raleigh, NC -> Walnut Creek, CA
Age: 42
Posts: 44,090
Received 957 Likes on 328 Posts
has anyone hooked an aftermarket HU to the stock bose system?

w/o changing to an aftermarket amp or speakers? Just the headunit?
Old 11-13-2003, 01:37 PM
  #2  
Comrade Stalin
 
97Cl22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Des Moines, IA
Age: 40
Posts: 3,198
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I know this probably won't help because i'm just speculating, but if you run new speaker wires you should be able to do it. Just cut the amp out of the loop and use the amp that is in the aftermarket HU. So by putting new wires from the back of the harness to each speaker, you'll be able to use the factory speakers without 'removing' the factory amp!
Old 11-13-2003, 02:29 PM
  #3  
roomate has a CL too
 
ju5tchi11in's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Los Angeles, CA Albany, NY
Age: 41
Posts: 3,862
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
wasn't there a thread on this before??? that was the case something was messed up with the bose amp so you need to cut it out of the loop. The threads around somewhere.
Old 11-13-2003, 02:38 PM
  #4  
Miss th 3.0
 
wakeboardfusion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Coeur d alene ID
Age: 36
Posts: 3,235
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
yeah it was my thread
Old 11-13-2003, 03:33 PM
  #5  
teh Senior Instigator
Thread Starter
 
CLpower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Huntington Beach, CA -> Ashburn, VA -> Raleigh, NC -> Walnut Creek, CA
Age: 42
Posts: 44,090
Received 957 Likes on 328 Posts
where is it? That's the cd changer one, no one there has done it.
Old 11-13-2003, 03:51 PM
  #6  
Miss th 3.0
 
wakeboardfusion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Coeur d alene ID
Age: 36
Posts: 3,235
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
herr it is http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...hreadid=120955
Old 11-13-2003, 04:50 PM
  #7  
05' 350z 6spd.
 
SooDARK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: San Marcos Ca.
Age: 39
Posts: 1,574
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
i had my setup like that for a while. if you get like a 50 x 4 deck your bose speakers will actually sound pretty good

you don't need an amp
Old 11-13-2003, 04:52 PM
  #8  
teh Senior Instigator
Thread Starter
 
CLpower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Huntington Beach, CA -> Ashburn, VA -> Raleigh, NC -> Walnut Creek, CA
Age: 42
Posts: 44,090
Received 957 Likes on 328 Posts
english


<--- stereo nitwit
Old 11-13-2003, 04:52 PM
  #9  
teh Senior Instigator
Thread Starter
 
CLpower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Huntington Beach, CA -> Ashburn, VA -> Raleigh, NC -> Walnut Creek, CA
Age: 42
Posts: 44,090
Received 957 Likes on 328 Posts
what year was your car too?
Old 11-13-2003, 04:58 PM
  #10  
05' 350z 6spd.
 
SooDARK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: San Marcos Ca.
Age: 39
Posts: 1,574
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
lol it's funny how you know kindof alot about cars but nothing about stereos im no expert or anything tho.

50 x 4 is the wattage on my headunit. Most decent ones have between 45-50. They put out that many watts to each speaker (x4) plenty of power for basically any speaker. My kenwood excelon speakers are like 300w, but I only have 50 going into them and they sound sweet.

BTW-mines a 98
Old 11-13-2003, 05:14 PM
  #11  
-S namyaC-
 
proaudio22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: TN
Age: 39
Posts: 4,099
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally posted by SooDARK
lol it's funny how you know kindof alot about cars but nothing about stereos im no expert or anything tho.

50 x 4 is the wattage on my headunit. Most decent ones have between 45-50. They put out that many watts to each speaker (x4) plenty of power for basically any speaker. My kenwood excelon speakers are like 300w, but I only have 50 going into them and they sound sweet.

BTW-mines a 98
They do not put out anything close to 50 watts. More like 10. Pioneer was dumb enough to publish a chart of this a few years back thinking the public wouldn't notice some of the other numbers. Their radio only put out like 45 watts @ 10% distortion - witch is EXTREMELY UNEXCEPTABLE! 1% is bad and at 1%, it put out about 10 watts. Don't buy into the hype. Almost all amped radios are like this. There are only a few exceptions like Nakamichi, which is pretty close to the said output. The rest are IC chips not real amps, no way it's going to be clean at those levels. They are only working with 12v here. If you like - you can open up your CD player and give me the model of the IC that is the "amp" inside and I can tell you the real published power from the chip manufacturer. 99% of them are 8-15 watts.
Old 11-13-2003, 05:20 PM
  #12  
teh Senior Instigator
Thread Starter
 
CLpower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Huntington Beach, CA -> Ashburn, VA -> Raleigh, NC -> Walnut Creek, CA
Age: 42
Posts: 44,090
Received 957 Likes on 328 Posts
Originally posted by SooDARK
lol it's funny how you know kindof alot about cars but nothing about stereos im no expert or anything tho.

50 x 4 is the wattage on my headunit. Most decent ones have between 45-50. They put out that many watts to each speaker (x4) plenty of power for basically any speaker. My kenwood excelon speakers are like 300w, but I only have 50 going into them and they sound sweet.

BTW-mines a 98

my stoner brain can only handle one thing, electronics is where it stops
Old 11-13-2003, 05:22 PM
  #13  
teh Senior Instigator
Thread Starter
 
CLpower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Huntington Beach, CA -> Ashburn, VA -> Raleigh, NC -> Walnut Creek, CA
Age: 42
Posts: 44,090
Received 957 Likes on 328 Posts
so what i need to do is get an aftermarket head unit and hook the internal amp from it to the speakers?


Anyone in So Cal wanna do this for me
Old 11-13-2003, 05:34 PM
  #14  
05' 350z 6spd.
 
SooDARK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: San Marcos Ca.
Age: 39
Posts: 1,574
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
dude is yours a 98 like mine?? is there a difference in sterios??

if yours is like mine, all you need to do is swap out the deck. easy as hell, nothing has to be done with the inernal amp.
Old 11-13-2003, 06:03 PM
  #15  
who got the best deal?
 
red99cl2.3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: PROVIDENCE,RI
Age: 39
Posts: 1,714
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
all these numbers are BS just like a car says 250hp but than u take it to the wheels and its much lessss, same with wattage if it says 50watts per channel its a fraction of that i wish they would give us real numbers!!!
Old 11-13-2003, 06:25 PM
  #16  
A-CL Member
 
Sacramento CL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Roseville, CA
Posts: 394
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I've read about the incompatibility of aftermarket HUs with the Bose amp that CLpower is talking about. Does the same problem exist in the 2.3? I have the stock non-Bose HU in my 99, and it looks exactly like the Bose HU in the 3.0 (except it doesn't say "Bose"). I'm wondering if it's still a Bose and if I'll have the same problem when I swap mine out. Thx.
Old 11-13-2003, 06:34 PM
  #17  
blah blah blah
 
99CL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: SoCal
Age: 42
Posts: 2,260
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 7 Posts
all you need is a aftermarket HU and a harness kit. U could keep everything stock. I had mine like that until I gone crazy with my car audio. It's simple, you don't even need that dash kit because u could just reuse your stock pocket ont he bottom
Old 11-13-2003, 06:43 PM
  #18  
teh Senior Instigator
Thread Starter
 
CLpower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Huntington Beach, CA -> Ashburn, VA -> Raleigh, NC -> Walnut Creek, CA
Age: 42
Posts: 44,090
Received 957 Likes on 328 Posts
Originally posted by SooDARK
dude is yours a 98 like mine?? is there a difference in sterios??

if yours is like mine, all you need to do is swap out the deck. easy as hell, nothing has to be done with the inernal amp.
I have a 99, don't know if it's different.
Old 11-13-2003, 06:44 PM
  #19  
teh Senior Instigator
Thread Starter
 
CLpower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Huntington Beach, CA -> Ashburn, VA -> Raleigh, NC -> Walnut Creek, CA
Age: 42
Posts: 44,090
Received 957 Likes on 328 Posts
Originally posted by 99CL
all you need is a aftermarket HU and a harness kit. U could keep everything stock. I had mine like that until I gone crazy with my car audio. It's simple, you don't even need that dash kit because u could just reuse your stock pocket ont he bottom

can you show me where to get the harness kit?

And can I use any HU?
Old 11-13-2003, 06:53 PM
  #20  
blah blah blah
 
99CL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: SoCal
Age: 42
Posts: 2,260
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 7 Posts
u could buy any HU u want. And ask them if they have a harness kit for an 94-97 accord. The harness kit lets you plug into the stock harness without cutting stock wires.
Old 11-13-2003, 07:15 PM
  #21  
05' 350z 6spd.
 
SooDARK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: San Marcos Ca.
Age: 39
Posts: 1,574
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally posted by red99cl2.3
all these numbers are BS just like a car says 250hp but than u take it to the wheels and its much lessss, same with wattage if it says 50watts per channel its a fraction of that i wish they would give us real numbers!!!

yeah, but just like cars, even though a 287hp 350z doesn't make 287 to the wheels, it's still quick as fuck!! 50 x 4 decks might not put out 50 watts, but it'll still power the speakers a hell of a lot etter than the stock HU.

CLpower-when you go to buy the deck, it should come with the kit to rewire it to your stock wires. trust me it's about as easy as installing a CAI
Old 11-13-2003, 07:23 PM
  #22  
broke ass fawker
 
Mitchel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Indianapolis
Age: 40
Posts: 226
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally posted by 99CL
all you need is a aftermarket HU and a harness kit. U could keep everything stock. I had mine like that until I gone crazy with my car audio. It's simple, you don't even need that dash kit because u could just reuse your stock pocket ont he bottom

yes...this is all that i did. Went to a local stereo shop and got the wiring harness and thats it. I had to do a little modifying to the the bracket the cd player slides into to get the compartment to stay attachted to the cd player. Then all that i did is connect the wires. I think I ended up hooking (two blue wires) i think my remote wire and my antena wire to the the same wire (a blue one) coming out of the wiring harness. And that was it, no problems since. It was that easy, and this was the first CD player i installed completely by myself.
Old 11-13-2003, 07:41 PM
  #23  
Pro
 
jtothees's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Boise, Idaho
Age: 38
Posts: 713
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
hmm... i have a 97 3.0 and i have been told by numerous "professionals" IE: cartoys / best buy, that all of the bose audio is integrated and a new HU requires new amp and speakers... i can smell the b.s. but just want to make sure. I already have 2 12"s in the trunk with no problems. Is the 97 audio unit the same as the 98\99? If so i can just purchase a new HU and a harness kit as well?
Old 11-13-2003, 08:40 PM
  #24  
blah blah blah
 
99CL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: SoCal
Age: 42
Posts: 2,260
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 7 Posts
Should be the same jtothee
Old 11-13-2003, 08:42 PM
  #25  
-S namyaC-
 
proaudio22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: TN
Age: 39
Posts: 4,099
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
oooooooooooooo hold up - do you guys have the Acura/Bose or not? All that shit I was talking about was for the Bose system. If you don't have the Bose, all you need is a harness!
Old 11-13-2003, 08:51 PM
  #26  
blah blah blah
 
99CL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: SoCal
Age: 42
Posts: 2,260
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 7 Posts
i had a bose system with a aftermarket HU before ... worked fine
Old 11-13-2003, 09:01 PM
  #27  
The movement has started
 
baka_t's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hawaii
Age: 44
Posts: 3,645
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
i rewired mine i just hooked up a alpine 60x4 amp where the stock bose one was i cut into the harness if your sketch about doing that all you need to do is use some wire connecting crimps that usually does the job
Old 11-13-2003, 09:52 PM
  #28  
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (3)
 
uncald4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Gig Harbor, WA.
Age: 47
Posts: 2,376
Received 54 Likes on 31 Posts
You guys are stressin' ME out!

Hey guys. Just got my computer back from the shop. Trying to catch up on the happs.

ChrisB and I are both MECP Cert. Installers. with much experience on the amped factory systems.

The FACT's are as follows....

You need a Honda harness with factory amped or un-amped.
Metra part# 70-1720.

You don't need to rewire the Bose amp to work with a new deck. However you are feeding this amp way to much juice with a new deck. The factory deck pushes about 7 to 12 watts. Most aftermarket decks run 17 to 22 watts. With a jump in power fed to the Bose amp it will shorten it's life-span and burn out much quicker. But in the mean time. Enjoy the improved sound!
Old 11-14-2003, 05:45 AM
  #29  
Comrade Stalin
 
97Cl22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Des Moines, IA
Age: 40
Posts: 3,198
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
CLpower: Does your stock HU say just acura on it or does it say BOSE somewhere? If it is bose you will have to do as i originally said and run (or have someone run ) new wires to the speakers from the aftermarket head unit. If you have acura all you have to do is go to walmart and ask the car audio people for a harness for a 97 honda and plug this in where you stock HU was and it'll work!
Old 11-14-2003, 05:50 AM
  #30  
-S namyaC-
 
proaudio22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: TN
Age: 39
Posts: 4,099
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Re: You guys are stressin' ME out!

Originally posted by uncald4
You don't need to rewire the Bose amp to work with a new deck. However you are feeding this amp way to much juice with a new deck. The factory deck pushes about 7 to 12 watts. Most aftermarket decks run 17 to 22 watts. With a jump in power fed to the Bose amp it will shorten it's life-span and burn out much quicker. But in the mean time. Enjoy the improved sound!
The factory Bose radio doesn't feed that much power to the amp, it's line level. While the adapter might work, it will fry the amp. Metra obviously is slacking in their research, else they would have a seperate application for the Bose system. Peripheral has it. It's basically a quasi LOC. The non-Bose system can be wired straight up.
Old 11-14-2003, 06:15 AM
  #31  
Comrade Stalin
 
97Cl22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Des Moines, IA
Age: 40
Posts: 3,198
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Does the bose HU even have an internal amp? Isn't that kinda the point to having an external one?
Old 11-14-2003, 06:55 AM
  #32  
teh Senior Instigator
Thread Starter
 
CLpower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Huntington Beach, CA -> Ashburn, VA -> Raleigh, NC -> Walnut Creek, CA
Age: 42
Posts: 44,090
Received 957 Likes on 328 Posts
Originally posted by proaudio22
oooooooooooooo hold up - do you guys have the Acura/Bose or not? All that shit I was talking about was for the Bose system. If you don't have the Bose, all you need is a harness!
I have the bose, but I think all 98's and 99's had the bose also
Old 11-14-2003, 06:57 AM
  #33  
-S namyaC-
 
proaudio22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: TN
Age: 39
Posts: 4,099
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The 97 and 98 base models don't have the Bose, all of the 99s were Premiums so all of them do.
Old 11-14-2003, 10:07 AM
  #34  
broke ass fawker
 
Mitchel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Indianapolis
Age: 40
Posts: 226
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally posted by proaudio22
oooooooooooooo hold up - do you guys have the Acura/Bose or not? All that shit I was talking about was for the Bose system. If you don't have the Bose, all you need is a harness!
If by you mean Acura/Bose, my stock HU says acura on it and its bose. ON the 97 3.0
Old 11-14-2003, 10:16 AM
  #35  
Suzuka Master
 
ib_jimmy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Dallas
Age: 42
Posts: 5,193
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
My 97 3.0 have a Bose system....i have a aftermarket HU to the stock amp and a aftermarket amp for the sub. work fine...didnt need to rewired anything.
Old 11-14-2003, 11:38 AM
  #36  
teh Senior Instigator
Thread Starter
 
CLpower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Huntington Beach, CA -> Ashburn, VA -> Raleigh, NC -> Walnut Creek, CA
Age: 42
Posts: 44,090
Received 957 Likes on 328 Posts
can someone link me to where I can buy this adapter? does the adapter depend on the brand of HU I buy?


Also, can someone direct me where to buy HU's cheap online
Old 11-14-2003, 11:44 AM
  #37  
-S namyaC-
 
proaudio22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: TN
Age: 39
Posts: 4,099
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I'll try to find you a link for that adapter when I get home later. Doesn't matter what brand of HU as it only attached to the new HUs speaker outs.

Why do you want a new HU anywayz?
Old 11-14-2003, 12:38 PM
  #38  
teh Senior Instigator
Thread Starter
 
CLpower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Huntington Beach, CA -> Ashburn, VA -> Raleigh, NC -> Walnut Creek, CA
Age: 42
Posts: 44,090
Received 957 Likes on 328 Posts
my stock one stopped playing CD's, I was able to use one of those CD cleaners for a little while but now it won't pick that up either. I've been trying to avoid touching the stereo as much as possible. Guess it's about time to.
Old 11-14-2003, 12:40 PM
  #39  
-S namyaC-
 
proaudio22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: TN
Age: 39
Posts: 4,099
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Unless you just want an aftermarket HU, tons of peeps are selling their factory radios. I know jamolie had his up for $30 shipped I think lol.
Old 11-14-2003, 12:40 PM
  #40  
Pro
 
jtothees's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Boise, Idaho
Age: 38
Posts: 713
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I am also in the market for a new HU.. mine is so boring it just says like... "7" or whatever the track number is. Im in the market for a HU with dancing elephants or somthing of that nature.


Quick Reply: has anyone hooked an aftermarket HU to the stock bose system?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:50 AM.