h22 head?
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h22 head?
My car has got 170xxx miles.. just wondering if i should swap to a h22 head or just wait for a whole swap.. i like the good things i've been hearing about this sort of swap, with the stronger block + dohc.. but considering the miles on my car im not sure if waiting for a whole swap would be better.. and say i did wait, should i do a k instead of h? what would be the pros/cons between those two?
i got a 97 2.2 btw..
i got a 97 2.2 btw..
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wait for the whole swap, too many people have had problems with the g swap
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google k24/20 vs. h22, theres a large amount of information regaurding which is better.
the k is gonna cost multiple $G's, where u can probably get an h, and installed for around a grand.
the k is gonna cost multiple $G's, where u can probably get an h, and installed for around a grand.
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lol, H it is!.. i like being different but if the difference is debateable, and is gunna cost me 1000's more, ima stick with the H.. Well next quesion, 22 or 23? what handles the cl's weight better? i think that will be the biggest factor, no?
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Nothing rite now, but i better start getting parts if its going to happen.. and sry, i thought one of em didnt have it, all i know is that the k is from an rsx type s, and if im wrong about that, sry again.. cost would be around $2000 rite? if i got a shop to do it..
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i had a HUGE debate about the G's on CB7Tuners a couple years back. I was working for my mechanic at the time, he's a honda guru. Most people still don't listen and like you said, lots of problems.
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I agree. I hate that i paid more than 1000 less than a k swap and whoop on RSX-s's and Civic si's all day long. Geez wtf was i thinking.
If I was to put a K in a CL, it would have to be a k24. Big car = needs torque.
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H23 does, but its not as easy to wire up as an H22 for some reason. Maybe because its out of an SIR accord wagon that was mostly 4wd and not a prelude. I got lucky, i had only minor issues to work out. Everyone else i know that's swapped it had some sort of issues so far. If you want direct drop in with minimal issue, go H22.
If you're going all motor i'd say get an H22, get a nice i/h/e setup, euro r manifold, s2k TB, and a tune and you'll be fine. All for less than a K swap.
If you're going all motor i'd say get an H22, get a nice i/h/e setup, euro r manifold, s2k TB, and a tune and you'll be fine. All for less than a K swap.
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H23 does, but its not as easy to wire up as an H22 for some reason. Maybe because its out of an SIR accord wagon that was mostly 4wd and not a prelude. I got lucky, i had only minor issues to work out. Everyone else i know that's swapped it had some sort of issues so far. If you want direct drop in with minimal issue, go H22.
If you're going all motor i'd say get an H22, get a nice i/h/e setup, euro r manifold, s2k TB, and a tune and you'll be fine. All for less than a K swap.
If you're going all motor i'd say get an H22, get a nice i/h/e setup, euro r manifold, s2k TB, and a tune and you'll be fine. All for less than a K swap.
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and while we're throwing opinions around, I think your meaningless comments and constant shitstirring is played out. But that's just me.
back to the OP, just get a complete jdm h22 and call it a day.
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Dicorp, he's already been warned about the hijacking, leave it go, this is your warning. I expect this to end here
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n22? c'mon now
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Please show me how? You say K's aren't torquey enough, but H's are "played out" Yet all your other suggestions, like legend motors are unproven and more difficult because they don't drop right in. Yet again, if you don't have anything to add, don't post
n22? c'mon now
n22? c'mon now
n22: 142 hp/ 252 ft-lbs of tq. not to mention because its a diesel, its a perfect candidate for a turbo set up, and the tq is what our CL's need being chubsters. if you have 700 whp and 300 ft lbs of tq.. what do you accomplish?
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142hp/252tq? haha. Easier to swap a chevy small block or just drive an express van and call it a day
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Yeah, swapping a diesel would be cake, compared to dropping a petrol motor that bolts right in
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I just like things to be originol and different. I guess I say its played out because the second anyone mentions anything remote to swapping an engine, someone suggests an H swap. A diesel CL? that would be cool as fuck IMO. yeah, its a hefty swap, but aside from the H, pretty much anything is unexplored territory.
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anything else is unchartered territory cuz the H is proven to provide performance and its cost efficient. i'm sure if more of us had the money, there would be plenty of other swaps. You suggest all this shit but never think how practical it can actually be, being that we're not all chip foose or something and can design n make our cars into whatever we want. Diesels n others would be cool, but would take so much money n time that by the time you're done u wanna encase the damn car in glass cuz of how much u spent on it.
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wow, g-swap to awd sir cl's lmao.. ok, so i should keep my tranny rite?.. bolts rite up to the h22 and keeps a nice cruise rpm on the freeway, i dont rly care about the strip..
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If you're going H22, the F22 tranny will be a DOG for you. The gears are too long IMHO. My friend has an H23a with an F22 tranny in his accord, its quick but i leave him by like 2 cars cuz of the gearing. Cruising in 5th, at 65 i remember the rpm's being at like 3k or so, i haven't driven the car in like 2 weeks so i don't exactly remember. I don't think its too bad, considering the car revs to 8k. Either way, i'd still get an H22 tranny unless you're going turbo cuz turbo cars loooooove long gears so they can stay in boost.