Dropped off the CL today for what will end up being a $1k service and they gave me a new TSX w/ Navi and only 200 miles on it. Its a really nice ride, smoother than the CL anyway, and all of the gadgets are very user freindly, but its fukin SLOW. I drove the 6 speed TSX a few weeks ago and I thought it was slow, but now I got the auto and I will have to say this would make a nice car for my MOM. Its very smooth, revs nice, handles well, but seriously lacks torque. I guess they can't put a V-6 in it or it might effect sales of the TL, but damn for $28k loaded I expected a lot more, especially when you can get the 280 hp TL for $33k or $35k w/ Navi..Anyway, just thought I would share..I really miss the 3.0, but I will get it back tomorrow

btw-I know someone will ask wtf is up with a $1k service so here ya go...

105k Timing belt/water pump, etc. $720
Valve Adjustment $120
Transmission Service $65
Oil Change $30
Plus anything else they find

 

Yeah, I know what your saying. Fuckin 4000 pound car with a 4cyl. Dont get me wrong, the K series 2.4 is very badass with tons of potential, but not in that package. This old man with a six speed tried to get some of my CL not too long ago. I dusted his ass with ease. I'll bet he saw the 2.2CL on the trunk and thought he would pull me. He got none of this H22.

 

It weighs 3230lbs with the manual. With bolt ons/hondata, you can see it in the low 14s. Lots of potential there...

The auto stinks tho. The tranny has got much diff ratios than the manual, it'll be slow foreva.

 

I thought I read in Car & Driver that it was 4100 pounds fully loaded. It seemed very heavy to me. Mabey I'm wrong-My bad. I should be getting a Hondata soon for my motor. It's alot cheaper to run Hondata than the AEM ems. Those K motors are deffinately sick though. I heard they can support some serious hp when tuned.

 

I have a 6MT TSX and it is 3230 lbs. This car by far is not fast but it is fun to drive and does have some potential. For now mine will be left stock.

 

Again, it IS a very nice car, but the only 4 cyl I ever owned was in an Integra GSR so it was quick, and the TSX is not. Sure is pretty tho, and the interior is REALLY nice. Although I still think with the modding you would have to do to make it faster, you would be better off buying a TL.

 

the tsx is fucking mean.

i want to buy that as my second car.

 

did you READ this thread or just chime in, cause we have all been talking about how slow it is, even someone that owns a TSX agreed that they are slow.

 

1) Its a nice car
2) I could care less, if it were fast or slow

 

but saying the car is "fucking mean" implies that it is fast and/or powerfull right? ...right, and its not.

 

depends how you use the word "mean".
in hawaii slang, the word "mean", means dope.

why are you arguing?

 

I feel the same if i want it fast, i be driving a mustang cobra. It sure a lot cheaper.

 

exactly.

 

not trying to argue, just seemed like you were trying to say it WAS fast, and well it isnt..

 

i didnt say that they were fast. if i had wanted to say that they were fast, i wouldve said it.

 

you know.... obviously neither of us have THAT much to do at work today and well, we could prob go back and forth like this for the rest of the day..so lets just call it a mis-communication and let it go.

 

$720 for the timing belt/water pump?! Shit I need to dump this pig soon.

 

calm down children..........i never knew it was a 4banger...i jus assumed it was v6 at LEAST...the body is hella nice but its only a 4banger?!!:thumbsdn:

 

Thats for the 3.0 if you have a 2.X its cheaper, more like $450 i think.

 

Thats what I thought too!!! Shit for the 28k that they ask I would expect nothing less than a V6. But all in all I think it's tight! I love the shape and lines that it has. Out of all the Honda/Acura cars out, I would jump on that one. Or the new TL

 

I paid $380 for my timing/water service on da good old 2.3

 

It cost me a total of $150 to do my timing/ water service.

 

A 6spd runs low-mid 15's, that's about what a stock GS-R does.

 

I had an intake and exhaust on the gsr, not that that makes a huge difference. I guess maybe it just felt faster, I could definately feel the V-tec kick in a lot more in the integra. That TSX sure is pretty tho, everyone at my job is like "oooooh, i like the new car, what happened to the pimp mobile?" I swear the more I drive that damn thing the more I like it, but it just doesnt have enough ass to buy one. Oh well, atleast I found the button to turn off the traction control.

 

Power delivery is a lot more linear w/ the new dohc K series motors, that might be what you perceived as slower. Whereas the B series motors don't have the same kind of powerband. When the B series motors, specifically the b18c1's switch intake runners and hit the high lift cam, its like a different engine, bigger spike in power.

 

Dizamn !!! you are one smart mofo, that makes a lot of sense, thanks.........now..why does my 3.0 feel so much faster? I mean, even when I drove the 6spd, my 3.0 auto seemed a lot faster when I got back in it........its stock btw

 

195ft lbs of torque.

 

isnt the TSX close to that tho? I belive the weight is close too?

 

Hmm, I think the TSX has about 160ft lbs.

*edit 166ft lbs.

 

ahh just found it ..the TSX :Horsepower (SAE net) 200-hp @ 6800 rpm.....Torque 166 lbs-ft @ 4500 rpm...3318 lbs


Cl is 200hp and 195lbs...3219 lbs (1464 kg)

 

1995 Integra GSR 170 hp and 128 lbs....2667 lbs (1210 kg)

Actually, I THINK all 3 cars were rated at about 7 sec to 60mph

 

3.0/2.2? i thought we ran at least 230 for 3.0s

 

I did NOT have sexual relations with that woman..............

 

????

 

We got 200.

 

those guys were crackin me up on the first page about arguing over the usage or words....mean, dope, slow, fast...its just too much!!

 

NO THAT WAS IN YOUR DREAMS

 

in my dreams I have 300 to the rear wheels

 

pinch me....

 

I'll add my two cents to this thread.

Last week while my EGR valve was being fixed I also got a TSX auto as a loaner so I was able to give it an extended test drive.

My normal driver is a '98 CL 3.0.

I always liked the TSX but I agree, it did feel under-powered as compared to my 3.0 even with 131k on the odometer.

Also, the engine it didn't feel as smooth as my high-mileage CL.

In every other category it was superior to my CL, especially handling.