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Old 06-27-2005 | 08:22 PM
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Is this a good price?

I am looking at a 97 Green 3.0cl. It has 123k miles. The tranny is strong and had it checked by a certified mechanic. It had the timing belt and water pump replaced at 105k so the are new. It is in eccelent condition.

ABS, leath int, p/moonroof, pb, pdl, ps, tilt, A/C, pw, alloy wheels, air bags, p/seats, all power, am/fm cass, auto, cruise, fully loaded.

6000$? Hows that sound? Thanks guys


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Old 06-27-2005 | 09:27 PM
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Let me know please. Thanks
Old 06-27-2005 | 09:30 PM
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sounds decent, not completely sure about pricing on 1st gens, but i think it sounds like a reasonable price(maybe a little high), but overall reasonable
Old 06-27-2005 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 03silvertypeS
sounds decent, not completely sure about pricing on 1st gens, but i think it sounds like a reasonable price(maybe a little high), but overall reasonable
Thanks. anymore help? I think it is good because i wont need to worry about the belts and stuff. i think it is a good car for a first car.
Old 06-27-2005 | 10:08 PM
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Good price. I say get it, it'll be a great first car
Old 06-27-2005 | 10:35 PM
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seems ok, but keep your eye out for the tranny
Old 06-28-2005 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by SilverCL97
seems ok, but keep your eye out for the tranny
6K is cheap though, good deal.
Old 06-28-2005 | 08:31 AM
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Old 06-28-2005 | 08:50 AM
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I'd try and talk them down to 5 its still a 8 yr old car with a history of bad transmissions.
Old 06-28-2005 | 11:29 AM
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Really test the tranny out. Notice how it shifts driving normally - should be smooth. Then on an open road really punch it around 40mph and see what it does.

If you really hit it in 1st from a dead stop, around 40mph it will shift hard into second. That's considered normal from what I've read so don't let that freak you.

Good luck.
Old 06-28-2005 | 11:37 AM
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How do u like to buy an 01 3.2 CL-P for 11000 .
PM me if u are interested
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I say talk him down to 5k.
Old 06-28-2005 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by CL Platano
I'd try and talk them down to 5 its still a 8 yr old car with a history of bad transmissions.
plus the car has 123K miles. That's a good bit, also find out if the tranny's been replaced, if not you may be in trouble.
Old 06-28-2005 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 97BlackAckCL
plus the car has 123K miles. That's a good bit, also find out if the tranny's been replaced, if not you may be in trouble.
i will try but doubt he will budge
Old 06-28-2005 | 03:07 PM
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Second Gen CLs go for cheap, unless you absolutely can't spend more than $6k, I'd search around for a second gen.
Old 06-28-2005 | 03:09 PM
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i got my 98 3.0cl for around 8000 with 62000, well thats because my dad new the guys at the dealership. plus my tranny went two weeks later, they had to fix it.

i would talk them down to 5000 that seems reasonable. go to kbb.com and punch it in under good and see what you get.
Old 06-28-2005 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 03CoupeV6
Second Gen CLs go for cheap, unless you absolutely can't spend more than $6k, I'd search around for a second gen.
i could spend 7
Old 06-28-2005 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 97-3.0cl
I am looking at a 97 Green 3.0cl. It has 123k miles. The tranny is strong and had it checked by a certified mechanic. It had the timing belt and water pump replaced at 105k so the are new. It is in eccelent condition.

ABS, leath int, p/moonroof, pb, pdl, ps, tilt, A/C, pw, alloy wheels, air bags, p/seats, all power, am/fm cass, auto, cruise, fully loaded.

6000$? Hows that sound? Thanks guys


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That's pretty much in the ballpark, maybe a tad high. Is it a private owner? Is that the advertized price? If it is, you can almost certainly offer, and pay less (unless someone else walks in and pays the $6K.) Does it need ANY work? If so, factor that in. Interior perfect? If not, subtract something from the price...

How good a car does the mechanic say it is? Let's say, "Great, nothing wrong." OK, so, say to the owner, "I want the car, but what's your very best price you're willing to offer?" THEN SAY ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, EVEN IF HE/SHE IMMEDIATELY SAYS THE SAME PRICE. WAIT!!!!!! Typically, if you wait, and don't jump in too soon, you'll hear, "The best I can do is..." If it's lower, calmly say.... "OK, I can do that."

NOW, if you'd be happy to pay the $6K and you would not want to lose the deal, and you need to close the deal, and it's been very hard finding other GOOD, CLEAN CL's, then be ready to pay the full price.

Good luck.
Old 06-28-2005 | 03:32 PM
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That's pretty much in the ballpark, maybe a tad high. Is it a private owner? Is that the advertized price? If it is, you can almost certainly offer, and pay less (unless someone else walks in and pays the $6K.) Does it need ANY work? If so, factor that in. Interior perfect? If not, subtract something from the price...

How good a car does the mechanic say it is? Let's say, "Great, nothing wrong." OK, so, say to the owner, "I want the car, but what's your very best price you're willing to offer?" THEN SAY ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, EVEN IF HE/SHE IMMEDIATELY SAYS THE SAME PRICE. WAIT!!!!!! Typically, if you wait, and don't jump in too soon, you'll hear, "The best I can do is..." If it's lower, calmly say.... "OK, I can do that."

NOW, if you'd be happy to pay the $6K and you would not want to lose the deal, and you need to close the deal, and it's been very hard finding other GOOD, CLEAN CL's, then be ready to pay the full price.

Good luck.
Thanks. I will be looking at it tomorrow and driving it. It is sort of a private seller. He is a certified machanic. He buys the the like tunes them and replaced the timing belt and water pump. I will drive it tomorrow an check if the tranny is good. Thanks
Old 06-28-2005 | 03:35 PM
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Part two. BTW, your age is not in your favor. Don't jump at the car, but don't be rude either. If you feel pressured AT ALL, walk. But, the fact that you were allowed to take the car to an independent mechanic (right?) is a very good sign the owner is confident. Did you start the car when it was dead cold? Any blue smoke at start-up? (Not good)

In general, these are great cars. Really. If you take car of it, you could easily get over 200,000 miles, without major engine work. You will want to have a dealer change/flush the transmission fluid, so have some cash on hand for maintenance.

Also, if the deal falls through, OK. There will be other nice CL's. Your best tool is being able to remain calm and not rush into a deal. I looked at 4 different CL's over a 50 miles radius before I got my '99.
Old 06-28-2005 | 03:49 PM
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i bought me 2.2 CL 97 for 4500 with 130k. so i dunno. i got leather power everything. id try to talk him down to at least 5k
Old 06-28-2005 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 97-3.0cl
Thanks. I will be looking at it tomorrow and driving it. It is sort of a private seller. He is a certified machanic. He buys the the like tunes them and replaced the timing belt and water pump. I will drive it tomorrow an check if the tranny is good. Thanks
OK. Was this the mechanic who examined the car? If so, then he's not unbiased. It would be better to take it to someone who's not selling it. If he won't allow a visit to another mechanic, walk away. Leaving a small REFUNDABLE deposit would not be abnormal.

Ask to be able to start the car first thing in the morning after it's sat all night. Have someone else do it, and see if ANY blue smoke comes out at start-up. If it does, the car is using some oil. Not good. A little white vapor if it's cool out is normal.

A lot of good guys turn Honda/Acura's around because they are so reliable and they often don't have to do much. See if he will give you two names of people who've bought cars from him. Run the VIN# on CARFAX.com (and call Acura USA at 800-382-2238). ACURA USA will tell you if there are any outstanding recalls on this car. The '97 EGR emissions system has an extended 14 year warranty, BTW.

Try to remain calm! If this isn't the right car, walk. Don't pay attention to, "Well, what do you expect for $6,000?" He probably got the car for a good deal less, and $6,000 is a LOT of money.

Come to think of it, CARFAX may tell you where he got it. From a dealer? A general auction?

Lastly (and sorry for going on and on), make sure CARFAX matches everything the seller says in terms of number of previous owners/accidents/mileage.

This guy could be totally honest and fair. If he is, and you remain polite, he won't mind letting you "kick the tires". Remember, he HAS to sell this car. You don't have to buy it. If it's THE ONE, great, but there will be others.
Old 06-28-2005 | 04:00 PM
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OK. Was this the mechanic who examined the car? If so, then he's not unbiased. It would be better to take it to someone who's not selling it. If he won't allow a visit to another mechanic, walk away. Leaving a small REFUNDABLE deposit would not be abnormal.

Ask to be able to start the car first thing in the morning after it's sat all night. Have someone else do it, and see if ANY blue smoke comes out at start-up. If it does, the car is using some oil. Not good. A little white vapor if it's cool out is normal.

A lot of good guys turn Honda/Acura's around because they are so reliable and they often don't have to do much. See if he will give you two names of people who've bought cars from him. Run the VIN# on CARFAX.com (and call Acura USA at 800-382-2238). ACURA USA will tell you if there are any outstanding recalls on this car. The '97 EGR emissions system has an extended 14 year warranty, BTW.

Try to remain calm! If this isn't the right car, walk. Don't pay attention to, "Well, what do you expect for $6,000?" He probably got the car for a good deal less, and $6,000 is a LOT of money.


Come to think of it, CARFAX may tell you where he got it. From a dealer? A general auction?

Lastly (and sorry for going on and on), make sure CARFAX matches everything the seller says in terms of number of previous owners/accidents/mileage.

This guy could be totally honest and fair. If he is, and you remain polite, he won't mind letting you "kick the tires". Remember, he HAS to sell this car. You don't have to buy it. If it's THE ONE, great, but there will be others.
Thanks alot. I will have it checked by my mechanic before purchase. i ran the carfax and it all matches up and checked out. I will be sure to check that at start up. Just becuase i am 17 does not mean anything(in my case). I have been buying and selling cars for profit since i was 15. I just made 700 bux on a 98 mustang. I will not get excited. This car will be for me. Thanks
Old 06-28-2005 | 04:47 PM
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Thanks alot. Just becuase i am 17 does not mean anything(in my case).
I did not mean this as a put down. I apologize. What I was driving at was that being very young, some sellers will try and take advantage. But you've got the experience, so you're much better off than I was at your age. Cool.
Old 06-28-2005 | 08:22 PM
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I did not mean this as a put down. I apologize. What I was driving at was that being very young, some sellers will try and take advantage. But you've got the experience, so you're much better off than I was at your age. Cool.
Na, thats cool i appreciate your advice. I father will also be with me and he is a big dude. What would be better. A 97 3.0cl Silver with 91k for 6500 or a 97 3.0cl green with 123k for 6000? Thanks
Old 06-28-2005 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 97-3.0cl
Na, thats cool i appreciate your advice. I father will also be with me and he is a big dude. What would be better. A 97 3.0cl Silver with 91k for 6500 or a 97 3.0cl green with 123k for 6000? Thanks

All things being equal, condition wise, I say the '97 with 91k. 30,000 less miles for only $500. more dollars... But of course at 100,000 you'll need to do a timing belt/waterpump job for about $500/$600.

Still, if the one with 91K checked out well with a good mechanic using a fine tooth comb, I'd probably go with that one. Does it have all the same trim (leather, etc?) How does it drive compared to the one with 127K?

Isn't buying a car fun!?
Old 06-28-2005 | 09:25 PM
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All things being equal, condition wise, I say the '97 with 91k. 30,000 less miles for only $500. more dollars... But of course at 100,000 you'll need to do a timing belt/waterpump job for about $500/$600.

Still, if the one with 91K checked out well with a good mechanic using a fine tooth comb, I'd probably go with that one. Does it have all the same trim (leather, etc?) How does it drive compared to the one with 127K?

Isn't buying a car fun!?
I have not driven them yet. I am going tomorrow to drive them both. They are close together. Maybe i will get lucky and the one with 91k had the timing belt changed. It is all the same. I think the 3.0's always have leather and so on. It is fun looking for one . Thanks. i will let you know how it goes tomorrow
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hrm, well my car had 42,000 miles and i got it for 9000...
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hrm, well my car had 42,000 miles and i got it for 9000...
maybe this is a good deal.
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I'd try and talk them down to 5 its still a 8 yr old car with a history of bad transmissions.

its more like almost 11 years old.. it came out in 96, 97, 98, 99, 00, 01, 02, 03, 04, 05, and now the 06 cars are startin to come out. atleast this is how dealers appraise you car for trade in.. but when they sell you the same car its barley 9 years old.
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